this election is a referendum on socialism

[washamericom]

pure and simple, socialism is fine, but not in america. the president of obama is a socialist, the american voters will give him the boot, in deference to the founding fathers image of commerce set at perfect liberty. obama is incapable of carrying out that vision, and the american voters now know this. this election will strip him of his congressional support, the next, his job. bye bye birdie

 

[onecut39]

pure and simple, socialism is fine, but not in america. the president of obama is a socialist, the american voters will give him the boot, in deference to the founding fathers image of commerce set at perfect liberty. obama is incapable of carrying out that vision, and the american voters now know this. this election will strip him of his congressional support, the next, his job. bye bye birdie

The real shame is that those crying "socialism" do not even know the definition of the word.

Look it up and then come back and tell us how it applies to our country and policies.

 

[VaYank5150]

pure and simple, socialism is fine, but not in america. the president of obama is a socialist, the american voters will give him the boot, in deference to the founding fathers image of commerce set at perfect liberty. obama is incapable of carrying out that vision, and the american voters now know this. this election will strip him of his congressional support, the next, his job. bye bye birdie

So, then you agree with Sharron Angle that Social Security and MediCare need to be eliminated right away?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

pure and simple, socialism is fine, but not in america. the president of obama is a socialist, the american voters will give him the boot, in deference to the founding fathers image of commerce set at perfect liberty. obama is incapable of carrying out that vision, and the american voters now know this. this election will strip him of his congressional support, the next, his job. bye bye birdie

So, then you agree with Sharron Angle that Social Security and MediCare need to be eliminated right away?

Yup. Let me opt out... PALEASE.

 

[VaYank5150]

pure and simple, socialism is fine, but not in america. the president of obama is a socialist, the american voters will give him the boot, in deference to the founding fathers image of commerce set at perfect liberty. obama is incapable of carrying out that vision, and the american voters now know this. this election will strip him of his congressional support, the next, his job. bye bye birdie

So, then you agree with Sharron Angle that Social Security and MediCare need to be eliminated right away?

Yup. Let me opt out... PALEASE.

So, what about all of those Tea Baggers who were holding signs for Obama to take his hands off of "their MediCare"????

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

So, then you agree with Sharron Angle that Social Security and MediCare need to be eliminated right away?

Yup. Let me opt out... PALEASE.

So, what about all of those Tea Baggers who were holding signs for Obama to take his hands off of "their MediCare"????

I dunno, you tell me. What of it?

 

[Varth Dader]

pure and simple, socialism is fine, but not in america. the president of obama is a socialist, the american voters will give him the boot, in deference to the founding fathers image of commerce set at perfect liberty. obama is incapable of carrying out that vision, and the american voters now know this. this election will strip him of his congressional support, the next, his job. bye bye birdie

I thought the last elections were about electing a communist president. So the US is moving from electing a communist to throwing out the socialists in 2 years? Wow that is fast!

 

[saveliberty]

The election is not a referenum on socialism. It is a referendum on jobs. It may also be one on wanting less government control of life, specifically health care.

The losers that can't see the growth of socialism in America need to get better glasses.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The election is not a referenum on socialism. It is a referendum on jobs. It may also be one on wanting less government control of life, specifically health care.

The losers that can't see the growth of socialism in America need to get better glasses.

Oh they see it... that's why they're arguing semantics. Is it pure socialism? No. Then again, Socialsim in it's purest form is Communism. I think what we're facing is more of a European style social democracy type movement. Either way, it's bullshit, and the people didn't vote for this. Unfortunately some dumbfucks got caught up in an Obamagasm... and here we are. But, for the most part even most of these folks are way over it.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

pure and simple, socialism is fine, but not in america. the president of obama is a socialist, the american voters will give him the boot, in deference to the founding fathers image of commerce set at perfect liberty. obama is incapable of carrying out that vision, and the american voters now know this. this election will strip him of his congressional support, the next, his job. bye bye birdie

I thought the last elections were about electing a communist president. So the US is moving from electing a communist to throwing out the socialists in 2 years? Wow that is fast!

Well, you thought wrong there Nancy.

 

[Varth Dader]

Well, you thought wrong there Nancy.

So who was elected two years ago, if not a communist?

 

[Baruch Menachem]

It is less a referendum on Socialism, which has not been discussed, than a referendum on the attitudes on which it is based. America is not ready for an aristocracy yet. Even less ready for being ruled by the deaf.

 

[jillian]

pure and simple, socialism is fine, but not in america. the president of obama is a socialist, the american voters will give him the boot, in deference to the founding fathers image of commerce set at perfect liberty. obama is incapable of carrying out that vision, and the american voters now know this. this election will strip him of his congressional support, the next, his job. bye bye birdie

do you look as stupid in real life as you sound on the internets?

and the only 'economic' vision the founders had was that landed gentry were the only people who could vote.

 

[Bern80]

pure and simple, socialism is fine, but not in america. the president of obama is a socialist, the american voters will give him the boot, in deference to the founding fathers image of commerce set at perfect liberty. obama is incapable of carrying out that vision, and the american voters now know this. this election will strip him of his congressional support, the next, his job. bye bye birdie

The real shame is that those crying "socialism" do not even know the definition of the word.

Look it up and then come back and tell us how it applies to our country and policies.

The left just loves this debate. Even though we all know what we are talking about when we say socialism (no it is not the technical definition of the term), the left thinks they can just end the debate by saying 'but what Obama is doing isn't 'real' socialism'. Socialism is government owning the means of production, so technically lefites, the Obama administration has engaged in some 'real' socialism when they bought GM.

So what about the not-really-socialism-but-we-all-know-what-we-mean-when-we-say-socialism, socialism. I suppose it's just lazy because there isn't one nice word that describes bigger, more controlling, central government. And that most certainly is accurate in terms of what Obama is moving us toward.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Well, you thought wrong there Nancy.

So who was elected two years ago, if not a communist?

A shill for the progressives... the Soros' of the world mind you. Just a nother douchy, pinhead academian with a two-paragraph resume.

 

[Varth Dader]

A shill for the progressives... the Soros' of the world mind you. Just a nother douchy, pinhead academian with a two-paragraph resume.

I'm pretty sure the right was making the case in 08 that electing Obama was like electing a communist or at least a socialist.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

A shill for the progressives... the Soros' of the world mind you. Just a nother douchy, pinhead academian with a two-paragraph resume.

I'm pretty sure the right was making the case in 08 that electing Obama was like electing a communist or at least a socialist.

I think the point was that electing Obama was voting for these type of policies. And, considering what this admin has done, they were correct.

Is Obama himself a Socialist? I dunno. I know this much, he's no capitalist.

 

[Varth Dader]

I think the point was that electing Obama was voting for these type of policies. And, considering what this admin has done, they were correct.

Is Obama himself a Socialist? I dunno. I know this much, he's no capitalist.

His administration did a really poor job at implementing anything remotely close to socialism.

I guess you are hoping for social security, medicare and the like to all be phased out.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I think the point was that electing Obama was voting for these type of policies. And, considering what this admin has done, they were correct.

Is Obama himself a Socialist? I dunno. I know this much, he's no capitalist.

His administration did a really poor job at implementing anything remotely close to socialism.

I guess you are hoping for social security, medicare and the like to all be phased out.

They've done a really poor job period. And yes, I'd like, at the very least, to be able to opt out. Yes indeed.

 

[washamericom]

pure and simple, socialism is fine, but not in america. the president of obama is a socialist, the american voters will give him the boot, in deference to the founding fathers image of commerce set at perfect liberty. obama is incapable of carrying out that vision, and the american voters now know this. this election will strip him of his congressional support, the next, his job. bye bye birdie

The real shame is that those crying "socialism" do not even know the definition of the word.

Look it up and then come back and tell us how it applies to our country and policies.

i can do that harvard, plus i'm from vermont and i've known bernie sanders since he was the socialist mayor of burlington. you are the pride example of what i'm talking about, someone who is in socialistic denialm thaks for proving my point, took just a few minutes



Socialism is an economic and political theory advocating public or common ownership and cooperative management of the means of production and allocation of resources.[1][2][3]

In a socialist economic system, production is carried out by a free association of workers to directly maximize use-values (instead of indirectly producing use-value through maximizing exchange-values), through coordinated planning of investment decisions, distribution of surplus, and the means of production. Socialism is a set of social and economic arrangements based on a post-monetary system of calculation, such as labour time, energy units or calculation-in-kind; at least for the factors of production.[4]

Socialists advocate a method of compensation based on individual merit or the amount of labour one contributes to society.[5] They generally share the view that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth within a small segment of society that controls capital and derives its wealth through a system of exploitation. They argue that this creates an unequal society that fails to provide equal opportunities for everyone to maximise their potential,[6] and does not utilise technology and resources to their maximum potential in the interests of the public.[7] Socialists characterise full socialism as a society no longer based on coercive wage-labour, organized on the basis of relatively equal power-relations and adhocracy rather than hierarchical, bureaucratic forms of organization in the productive sphere. Reformists and revolutionary socialists disagree on how a socialist economy should be established.