This current Congress has just shredded the Constitutional process

[bigrebnc1775]

A supperCongress that has a striking resembulance to the Russian Politburo same function and all the people said I wantg to be like Ruissia,


Politburo of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Full-Auto]

Maybe the constitutionality of this entire deal needs to be challenged in federal court.

I'm curious as to how it would be unconstitutional. Congress has the right to establish such committees and subcommittees as it deems appropriate. You pretend constitutionalists are really confused.

More importantly, who do you think has standing to challenge the law?

Yes they do. Beyond this congress they do not. No congress has the authority to bind a future congress.

 

[zzzz]

And here is the scenerio I see. They do not pass what is recommended and the automatic cuts are enacted. The next day the House reinstates the cut portions of Defense and whatever other parts they do not like. A backdoor cut to social Security!

 

[CompDemo]

I know people are extremely upset with congress and I think it's time we put a little pressure on them.

With today's technology, it would be possible to strip congress of their right to vote and give it back to the people. They would be elected to draft legislation and the Senate would still exist in order to keep a system of checks and balances in place.

I want you all to check out this 90 second video on YouTube. You can go to our site or just go to YouTube and search "complete democracy" if you're not comfortable with jumping to the new guys site. You'll quickly see this is not monitized in any way and it's simply a push to make a change.

If you like the idea or at least feel like it's better than what we've got, please share this video and site with your friends and family or through whatever venue you see fit to get the word out. If you think it's junk or needs some tweeking, please be sure to message us through the site or on here.

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[editec]

This current Congress has just shredded the Constitutional process

Yup

 

[zzzz]

I know people are extremely upset with congress and I think it's time we put a little pressure on them.

With today's technology, it would be possible to strip congress of their right to vote and give it back to the people. They would be elected to draft legislation and the Senate would still exist in order to keep a system of checks and balances in place.

I want you all to check out this 90 second video on YouTube. You can go to our site or just go to YouTube and search "complete democracy" if you're not comfortable with jumping to the new guys site. You'll quickly see this is not monitized in any way and it's simply a push to make a change.

If you like the idea or at least feel like it's better than what we've got, please share this video and site with your friends and family or through whatever venue you see fit to get the word out. If you think it's junk or needs some tweeking, please be sure to message us through the site or on here.

CompleteDemocracy dot com

The reason why a true democracy is not a good idea is that the public is swayed or inflamed by current events too easily. The process we have now diffuses that to a certain extent. The 2 year term of Congress gives the public the ability to change direction every 2 years. Having instant public votes on policy and laws would cause confusion and calamity.

James Madison, in Federalist No. 10 advocates a constitutional republic over direct democracy precisely to protect the individual from the will of the majority. He says, "A pure democracy can admit no cure for the mischiefs of faction. A common passion or interest will be felt by a majority, and there is nothing to check the inducements to sacrifice the weaker party. Hence it is, that democracies have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths."

John Adams - “Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.”

John Witherspoon, one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence, said "Pure democracy cannot subsist long nor be carried far into the departments of state — it is very subject to caprice and the madness of popular rage."

Zephaniah Swift, author of America’s first legal text - “It may generally be remarked that the more a government resembles a pure democracy the more they abound with disorder and confusion.”

“It has been observed that a pure democracy, if it were practicable, would be the most perfect government. Experience has proved that no position is more false than this. The ancient democracies, in which the people themselves deliberated, never possessed one good feature of government. Their very character was tyranny; their figure deformity.” (Alexander Hamilton, speech urging ratification of the Constitution in New York June 21, 1788.)

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I know people are extremely upset with congress and I think it's time we put a little pressure on them.

With today's technology, it would be possible to strip congress of their right to vote and give it back to the people. They would be elected to draft legislation and the Senate would still exist in order to keep a system of checks and balances in place.

I want you all to check out this 90 second video on YouTube. You can go to our site or just go to YouTube and search "complete democracy" if you're not comfortable with jumping to the new guys site. You'll quickly see this is not monitized in any way and it's simply a push to make a change.

If you like the idea or at least feel like it's better than what we've got, please share this video and site with your friends and family or through whatever venue you see fit to get the word out. If you think it's junk or needs some tweeking, please be sure to message us through the site or on here.

CompleteDemocracy dot com

The reason why a true democracy is not a good idea is that the public is swayed or inflamed by current events too easily. The process we have now diffuses that to a certain extent. The 2 year term of Congress gives the public the ability to change direction every 2 years. Having instant public votes on policy and laws would cause confusion and calamity.

James Madison, in Federalist No. 10 advocates a constitutional republic over direct democracy precisely to protect the individual from the will of the majority. He says, "A pure democracy can admit no cure for the mischiefs of faction. A common passion or interest will be felt by a majority, and there is nothing to check the inducements to sacrifice the weaker party. Hence it is, that democracies have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths."

John Adams - “Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.”

John Witherspoon, one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence, said "Pure democracy cannot subsist long nor be carried far into the departments of state — it is very subject to caprice and the madness of popular rage."

Zephaniah Swift, author of America’s first legal text - “It may generally be remarked that the more a government resembles a pure democracy the more they abound with disorder and confusion.”

“It has been observed that a pure democracy, if it were practicable, would be the most perfect government. Experience has proved that no position is more false than this. The ancient democracies, in which the people themselves deliberated, never possessed one good feature of government. Their very character was tyranny; their figure deformity.” (Alexander Hamilton, speech urging ratification of the Constitution in New York June 21, 1788.)

 

[CompDemo]

The purpose of Complete Democracy isn't to turn the entire government into a Democracy, it's just a theory that suggests we put the house vote in the hands of the people.

A complete and total Democracy would indeed be a bad idea as we would be subject to tyrany of the majority. However, the the Senate still in place, there would still be a system of checks and balances, not to mention the oversight by the Presidency and the Supreme Court.

People may vote based on current events and may be swayed easily but that would be one of the better parts of this potential process. Think about how lobbyists work now. They wine and dine and stay on top of individual congress people. If the public was going to be voting, lobbyists would have to turn to campaigning directly to the people. This would help cut corruption way back and it would turn lobbyists into educators of the issues which was their original intent.

 

[paconner]

It seems that we already have a Congress to find budget cuts...

 

[bigrebnc1775]

super congress is just a label. There is nothing super about them...You got roped into the media's super cool name for them.

Good job proving again how stupid you are.

Moron you haven't a clue. Read the article for fucking once god damn it.

 

[rightwinger]

Fear not....these 12 congressmen are incapable of resolving any issue let alone serious budget cutting

It is all for show....we will have stalemate as usual