This Country May Have Become the First in the World to Ban Islam

[Vox]

I've looked it up, and found several different versions. But whichever is accurate - the sentiment is the same.

Don't you think?

I generally agree with the sentiment.
And I have personally provided the quote several times myself.

However, if Angola is not a socialist country anymore ( and I think it stopped after the soviet money dried out) there is no imminent danger - because there is no totalitarian regime in place to proceed with the order of bans.

It might be a local specific ruling due to local specific targets. Militant Islam is flourishing in Africa, even if it is more north and east from Angola ( too lazy to explore the socioeconomic status of the closest neighbors, except South Africa).

Do you always dispute facts, even when they are accompanied by photographs ? (in this case heavy equipment destroying the mosques) Try clicking the OP link.

WTF?

 

[Coyote]

I generally agree with the sentiment.
And I have personally provided the quote several times myself.

However, if Angola is not a socialist country anymore ( and I think it stopped after the soviet money dried out) there is no imminent danger - because there is no totalitarian regime in place to proceed with the order of bans.

It might be a local specific ruling due to local specific targets. Militant Islam is flourishing in Africa, even if it is more north and east from Angola ( too lazy to explore the socioeconomic status of the closest neighbors, except South Africa).

Do you always dispute facts, even when they are accompanied by photographs ? (in this case heavy equipment destroying the mosques) Try clicking the OP link.

WTF?

 

[Bloodrock44]

Excuse me. Weren't you the person who started another thread about banning Islam and claimed that the USA had already banned it? How can Angola be the first? Oh, and which religion is next on your agenda?

Islam isn't a religion. Didn't you know that ? When you get the basics down pat, maybe we'll talk then.

I don't think it's Bloodrock that has a problem with "the basics" but...what the hell...don't get tripped up by the facts

C'mon Coyote. He has decreed Islam is not a religion and we are the nuts for not believing it.

 

[Coyote]

Islam isn't a religion. Didn't you know that ? When you get the basics down pat, maybe we'll talk then.

I don't think it's Bloodrock that has a problem with "the basics" but...what the hell...don't get tripped up by the facts

C'mon Coyote. He has decreed Islam is not a religion and we are the nuts for not believing it.

I'm trying to be a good girl here and give him the benefit of tempororary insanity

 

[Chuckt]

IT"S STARTING. The Dominos are beginning to fall. Angola today. Eventually, every country in the world will ban Islam. How comforting to see the photograph of the heavy demolition equipment knocking down the minarets, and destroying the mosques. Click the link to see it.

This Country May Have Become the First in the World to Ban Islam - PolicyMic

Excuse me. Weren't you the person who started another thread about banning Islam and claimed that the USA had already banned it? How can Angola be the first? Oh, and which religion is next on your agenda?

Islam isn't a religion. Didn't you know that ? When you get the basics down pat, maybe we'll talk then.

Then what is it?

 

[Kondor3]

Russia has banned the building of new mosques too. We can only hope it spreads.

Well, in the City of Moscow, anyway. Sure to get that mayor re-elected.

 

[Wildman]

Martin Niemöller

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

a muslime ?

 

[Kondor3]

"...He has decreed Islam is not a religion..."

As unpopular as this is going to be...

Whoever the hell he is, he may have a point.

Many folks (myself included) have long-since reached the conclusion that Islam is part Religion, part Legal System, part Political System, and part Cultural Umbrella.

That doesn't mean that this is truly so, nor that we should be in any kind of fire-engine rush to ban it or kick 'em all out or something.

But it does mean that we need to keep talking about it without the blinkers on, inside or outside a Constitutional framework...

It also means that we should probably keep a watchful eye on Islam in our midst, given that some substantive and logical argument can be made that it is actually a hybrid, and that it manifests aggressive and most UN-Godly agendas from time to time...

No need to be paranoid or to get radical just yet, but we DO need to continue to have that conversation, because we ARE dealing with something different than its peer-religions...

We also need to muster the courage to make and examine such a suggestion...

Or so it seems to this observer...

 

[Wildman]

Excuse me. Weren't you the person who started another thread about banning Islam and claimed that the USA had already banned it? How can Angola be the first? Oh, and which religion is next on your agenda?

Islam isn't a religion. Didn't you know that ? When you get the basics down pat, maybe we'll talk then.

Then what is it?

personally i would call it a blood cult

 

[Indofred]

IT"S STARTING. The Dominos are beginning to fall. Angola today. Eventually, every country in the world will ban Islam. How comforting to see the photograph of the heavy demolition equipment knocking down the minarets, and destroying the mosques. Click the link to see it.

This Country May Have Become the First in the World to Ban Islam - PolicyMic

How do you feel about Muslims who knock down churches?

 

[Tank]

Martin Niemöller

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

Thats why we should stop the Muslims, before they come for you

 

[Kondor3]

Martin Niemöller

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

Thats why we should stop the Muslims, before they come for you

Ouch.

There may be a kernel of truth in such an observation.

 

[Coyote]

Martin Niemöller

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

Thats why we should stop the Muslims, before they come for you

Ouch.

There may be a kernel of truth in such an observation.

No.

That kernel of "truth" is the fallacy that leads to genocide.

 

[Kondor3]

Thats why we should stop the Muslims, before they come for you

Ouch.

There may be a kernel of truth in such an observation.

No.

That kernel of "truth" is the fallacy that leads to genocide.

Nonsense.

It is not 'inappropriate' or 'immoral' or 'unfair' to point out the highly intolerant nature of Islam as it relates to other religions, when interpretations of its precepts are left in the hands of modern-day Islamic Fundamentalists.

We need look no further than the constant and ongoing persecution of Coptic Christians in Egypt or the staggering intolerance of Saudi Arabia for other religions, or simply review some of the earliest Islamic writings which launched its Age of Conquest, in order to understand that - while The West, and the US - extend a high degree of tolerance for religions of all kinds - that this tolerance is not reciprocated to the same extent by many of the nations dominated by Islam.

By and large, the tolerance extended by The West is NOT reciprocated by Islam.

That's a little too one-side for my liking, or that of a great many other folks, I'll wager.

And it's no 'bad thing' to say so.

Indeed... hiding our heads in the sand about such things is an early step along the road to collective suicide in The West.

Many of our colleagues in the UK can attest to the undermining effect of Islam when it is granted such tolerance, without demanding an equal reciprocating accommodation.

 

[Coyote]

Islam is a religion like any other.

It's as diverse as any other.

Islam in the west is of western culture.




People are individuals.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Doesn't matter. We are a tolerant nation by our Constitution, and that has not changed. Should Muslim radicals disturb our peace, as they have done, we handle it as a criminal not religious matter.

 

[Kondor3]

Islam is a religion like any other...

I do not recall Jesus of Nazareth nor Guatama Buddha teaching that it was OK to kill in the name of God, or to defend other co-religionists, or to advance the cause of The Faith; embedding such commentaries directly within their sacred writings; or to lie to Unbelievers; or to practice polygamy, or a hundred other most UN-godly teachings.

"...Islam in the west is of western culture..."

Rubbish. It is merely an Arabic belief-system transplanted (most imperfectly) into The West; as a latter-day and largely UN-welcome development.

 

[Coyote]

Islam is a religion like any other...

I do not recall Jesus of Nazareth nor Guatama Buddha teaching that it was OK to kill in the name of God, or to defend other co-religionists, or to advance the cause of The Faith; embedding such commentaries directly within their sacred writings; or to lie to Unbelievers; or to practice polygamy, or a hundred other most UN-godly teachings.

Yet they do. Actions speak louder then words.

And, words, in the OT, condone violence.

"...Islam in the west is of western culture..."

Rubbish. It is merely an Arabic belief-system transplanted (most imperfectly) into The West; as a latter-day and largely UN-welcome development.

Not rubbish. Islam, in western cultures is of western cultures. Judaism and Christianity are Middle Eastern religions - brutal cultures. It didn't stay there. You see what I mean?

 

[Kondor3]

Doesn't matter. We are a tolerant nation by our Constitution, and that has not changed. Should Muslim radicals disturb our peace, as they have done, we handle it as a criminal not religious matter.

Disagree that it doesn't matter. Agree that we will continue to treat it under the terms of the Constitution until (and if) it becomes clear that it needs to be treated otherwise. We are not there yet, but we should continue to keep our eyes open, because we are dealing with an alien and largely incompatible hybrid belief system that may cause us considerable difficulty in the coming years.

 

[protectionist]

Excuse me. Weren't you the person who started another thread about banning Islam and claimed that the USA had already banned it? How can Angola be the first? Oh, and which religion is next on your agenda?

Islam isn't a religion. Didn't you know that ? When you get the basics down pat, maybe we'll talk then.

I don't think it's Bloodrock that has a problem with "the basics" but...what the hell...don't get tripped up by the facts

You mean the 400+ "facts" that I presented in the Islamization Quiz ? Nope. I won't get tripped up by them. Not at all. And I suppose you won't either - since you know absolutely nothing about them, right ?