This Administration Is Beginning To Look Like Clinton's

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    Isn't this what we did with North Korea?

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060606/ap_on_re_eu/iran_nuclear


    AP: U.S. to give Iran nuclear technology

    By GEORGE JAHN, Associated Press Writer Tue Jun 6, 11:01 AM ET

    VIENNA, Austria - A package of incentives presented Tuesday to
    Iran includes a provision for the United States to supply Tehran with some nuclear technology if it stops enriching uranium — a major concession by Washington, diplomats said.

    The offer was part of a series of rewards offered to Tehran by
    European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana, according to the diplomats, who were familiar with the proposals and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because they were disclosing confidential details of the offer.

    The package was agreed on last week by the United States, Britain, France, China and Russia — the five veto-wielding members of the
    U.N. Security Council, plus Germany, in a bid to resolve the nuclear standoff with Iran.
     
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    is beginning to look like Reagan's which, as you recall, supplied Iran with arms in order to create cash to fund the "freedom fighters" (or terrorists, depending your perspective) in Nicaragua--and also secretly negotiated with Iran to obtain release of the hostages, despite solemnly proclaiming that we don't negotiate with hostage-takers.

    Clinton maintained a fairly hard line on Iran. I think it's good that 27 years of official policy is being reversed now. Basically, we have no choice. Sanctions won't stop Iran's nuclear program. Bombing won't work because the program's too well hidden. Short of a massive invasion, the only remaining choice is diplomacy.

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    You were missing the analogy about nuclear information. Clinton=North Korea and China:Bush=Iran.
     
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    Yes, Kathianne, this is absolutely sickening. Washington has become a town of fools--both Republicans and Democrats. It's absolutely mind boggling why they can't see the folly of this latest "carrot." What nincompoops! I'll bet the mullahs are having quite a celebration in Tehren.
     
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    I grow more disgusted by the day. If GW one more time says, "We will enforce our borders. We must remember though, that we are a nation of immigrants..."
    I'll puke.

    Now trotting out the Gay Marriage Amendment is basically saying to the GOP base, 'You are so stupid, I'm going to divert this problem...' No Sale!
     
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    Yes, this very definitely is a ploy to try to get conservative minds on something other than illegal immigration. I have a surprise for them--it's not going to work. They're going to have to deal with this illegal immigration mess to the people's satisfaction, whether they want to or not.
     
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    Getting back to the topic -- here's someone who agrees with your post completely, Kathianne. Really a great read to expose the folly of U.S. policy re Iran.

    Is Bill Clinton Still President?
    By Michael A. Ledeen, American Enterprise Institute
    June 7, 2006

    From time to time various wags have suggested that we send Bill Clinton to negotiate with the mullahs on our behalf. It turns out it isn’t necessary; we’ve just adopted his methods. Apparently those in charge of our Iran non-policy concluded that the appeasement of North Korea worked so well, we should do the same thing with Iran. I suppose it’s only a matter of time before Condi borrows one of Albright’s big hats, and goes to Tehran to dance with their dictator.

    for full article:
    http://www.aei.org/publications/pubID.24502,filter.all/pub_detail.asp
     
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    *Satire Alert*​

    http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2277

     
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    Nobody appointed us kings of the world. If another sovereign nation is arming itself, and we don't like it--but lack the military power to stop it--then what choice do we have but to negotiate?

    Many people here seem to have an exaggerated view of U.S. size and influence. We're 4% of the world's population, not 40! And we're not as popular as we used to be, due in part to the many bizarre choices this administration has made in its "War on Terror," from ignoring the Geneva Conventions to invading a different country than the one where our attackers originated.

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    We have the military power. The rest of the world might not like us using it. It gives us pause. Sometimes too much.
     

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