Third Party thoughts

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Would these thoughts be workable?

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    you know thats actually an interesting comparison, they focused on religion they were a radical protestant group, its just that most protestants were white, and most white protestants back then were also racist. But they didn't focus specifically on race, they focused catholic and chinese immigrants. So just like trump's cult there is no real direct talk of racism against blacks although it is certainly there amongst his followers (just mention BLM around one of them lol), but you never hear the well polished dogwhistles of welfare queens and urban thugs from Trump like we did with Romney. Instead his speech is directed toward immigrants except this time his catholic immigrants are from mexico and the oriental immigrants from the middle east rather than china.

    From your link

    "I am not a Know-Nothing – that is certain. How could I be? How can any one who abhors the oppression of negroes, be in favor of degrading classes of white people? Our progress in degeneracy appears to me to be pretty rapid. As a nation, we began by declaring that 'all men are created equal.' We now practically read it 'all men are created equal, except negroes.' When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equals, except negroes and foreigners and Catholics.' When it comes to that I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy."

    This quote from lincoln shows how much the know nothings and their anti immigrant attacks helped start the civil war.
     
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    I don't know about (no pun intended) being an influence on the War but they certainly stirred the shit, and started riots and assaulted immigrants and were constantly crowing about "100% Americanism" just as the Klan would 70-80 years later. That sounds like the same Nativism the OP is longing for. And it sounds a lot like Rump too.

    The Know Nothings have been brought up by several observers watching the Rump campaign --

    Rump isn't a Fascist; He's a Media-Savvy Know Nothing

    Pataki: Rump is the Know Nothing Candidate of the 21st Century
    Rump Isn't First Know Nothing to Capture American Hearts -- that one's got some good background


    But yes, picking out a minority (or several) and blaming them for every problem, even imaginary ones, is an old trick that's uh, worked before.
     
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    I don't know if I would go to that extent with a description. Would the party embody a degree of Nationalism, absolutely as a nation which does not believe in and of it's very self, is a failure of itself. My position is that of the United States taking care of the United States and Egypt, Russia, and all the rest taking care of themselves. That does not imply we send them packing it simply means they do their own heavy lifting and we will help when and if needed. I am saddened when I see the needs of Bolivia being placed ahead of American cities, States and the Country, along with the population in general. The infrastructure is a mess and there is no money to repair, we are told. Why does the national debt continue to increase if that is the case? Why does the US Navy feel required to keep the oceans navigation lanes open for the world to use? Seems to me the other countries could build a couple of ships to help out staffed with local labor and forces to operate the ships. Why us? Other than being the most productive Nation on face of mother earth, what is it about us doing the heavy lifting? I do not see the American Nazi equation in those questions.
     
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    President Bush # 1 and President Clinton's New World Order were tragic for the United States. Why, because the US was abandoned by the concept. It was the biggest all give scheme on planet earth as far as America was concerned. And look where it has taken us. Not only are the third world nations still third world or worse, we ourselves are falling behind. Charity begins at home not in Bangladesh or Bum Butt Egypt. That is what this seasons election was all about. Hey guys, we have people here at home needing help also. That is what Brexit was all about. Hey guys, what about us? The Brits showed some balls and America followed suit. It does not take a degree Poly Sci to read that label. The American people need to pull their collective heads form where the sun does not shine and face facts. We are being screwed by the powers to be, slowly and deliberately with malice and fore thought. Thanks a lot GHW Bush. " Read my lips, no new taxes". Yes, right, I got it!
     
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    Brexit huh?
    What do you know about Brexit? Or the EU? Do you know what the EU actually does and why it exists?
     
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    I know the EU! Estados Unidos = US, right?
     
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    Splain it to me POGO, in ten words or less.
     
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    Darned close if I say so myself. I know that the EU is a lot like the New World Order and it dragging the US down the drain. And the Brits are sick and tired of it. Good lick anotherlife! There comes a time when folks just want to be themselves and make it on their own. Unless you are a Muskrat I guess.
     
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    Actually, you're a lot closer than you think. :thup:
     
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    So that's a no?
    Going to continue to hide behind murky vague stuff like "New World Order" that never gets defined are we?

    There's no such thing as ten words or less.. Sounds like you don't want to know. :lalala:
    Besides which --- it would be "ten words or fewer".
     

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