Things about atheism that should be self-evident.

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  1. Atheists Do not:
    1. Hate God - There is no God.
    2. Worship Satan - There is no Satan.
    3. Hate Christians - Christians were all born atheists, and then had religion forced upon them.
    4. Eat Babies - There are no words for for the kind of deranged and deplorable imagination that thought this up.
    5. Lack morals - Every person has a sense of right and wrong regardless of whether they have a book of fairy tales to tell them what right and wrong is.
  2. Creationists like to ask, "How do you know the Big Bang happened? Were you there?" Yeah....right. Because I'm sure you were right there picking up shells while toddling along the bottom of the Red Sea, as the water was standing as two walls, waiting for you to cross, right?

  3. “Evolution is just a theory” demonstrates an almost misunderstanding of what a scientific theory actually is. A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on knowledge that has been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experimentation. The non-scientific word theory refers to a guess or conjecture, a contemplation or speculation. In science, this latter definition is actually called a hypothesis. The two terms are not interchangeable.

  4. As is the case with justice, it is the burden of the party making an assertive claim to offer proof of said claim. As in a criminal trial by jury, the prosecution needs to offer objective evidence that events took place a certain way. The job of the defence is to show why the arguments of the prosecution are not valid. In such a court situation, the prosecution could never say “Well, this book says that such and such happened on the night of July 15th, therefore it is true.” The referenced book would immediately be questioned along the lines of who the author was, what their intentions and motivations were, when it was written, whether the writers were credible and in their right minds, etc. Since this horse shit doesn’t work in a trial, why do we suffer it to work for explanations of the entire universe? When science makes a claim, it is substantiated with plenty of objective evidence, yet when a religion claims something, the only justification is “well, there must be a God because we have sunsets.” Ah, of course, why didn’t we silly scientists think of that? And “You can’t prove God doesn’t exist” is the coward’s shifting of the burden of proof.

  5. Science and theism cannot co-exist. At all. They are opposite, nemeses, antonyms, call it whatever you wish. Anyone who claims to live by both is fooling themselves and not truly following either.

These are just a few things that most atheists can agree on. And I, personally, don' think a single one of them is unreasonable.
 
In other words, atheists are just like everyone else. They want everyone else to think just the way they do. ;)
 
  1. Atheists Do not:
    1. Hate God - There is no God.
    2. Worship Satan - There is no Satan.
    3. Hate Christians - Christians were all born atheists, and then had religion forced upon them.
    4. Eat Babies - There are no words for for the kind of deranged and deplorable imagination that thought this up.
    5. Lack morals - Every person has a sense of right and wrong regardless of whether they have a book of fairy tales to tell them what right and wrong is.
  2. Creationists like to ask, "How do you know the Big Bang happened? Were you there?" Yeah....right. Because I'm sure you were right there picking up shells while toddling along the bottom of the Red Sea, as the water was standing as two walls, waiting for you to cross, right?

  3. “Evolution is just a theory” demonstrates an almost misunderstanding of what a scientific theory actually is. A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on knowledge that has been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experimentation. The non-scientific word theory refers to a guess or conjecture, a contemplation or speculation. In science, this latter definition is actually called a hypothesis. The two terms are not interchangeable.

  4. As is the case with justice, it is the burden of the party making an assertive claim to offer proof of said claim. As in a criminal trial by jury, the prosecution needs to offer objective evidence that events took place a certain way. The job of the defence is to show why the arguments of the prosecution are not valid. In such a court situation, the prosecution could never say “Well, this book says that such and such happened on the night of July 15th, therefore it is true.” The referenced book would immediately be questioned along the lines of who the author was, what their intentions and motivations were, when it was written, whether the writers were credible and in their right minds, etc. Since this horse shit doesn’t work in a trial, why do we suffer it to work for explanations of the entire universe? When science makes a claim, it is substantiated with plenty of objective evidence, yet when a religion claims something, the only justification is “well, there must be a God because we have sunsets.” Ah, of course, why didn’t we silly scientists think of that? And “You can’t prove God doesn’t exist” is the coward’s shifting of the burden of proof.

  5. Science and theism cannot co-exist. At all. They are opposite, nemeses, antonyms, call it whatever you wish. Anyone who claims to live by both is fooling themselves and not truly following either.
These are just a few things that most atheists can agree on. And I, personally, don' think a single one of them is unreasonable.

Why can I not be an atheist and believe in the laws of physics? I think physics drives everything. Physics -> chemistry -> biology -> life -> man -> religion
 
  1. Atheists Do not:
    1. Hate God - There is no God.
    2. Worship Satan - There is no Satan.
    3. Hate Christians - Christians were all born atheists, and then had religion forced upon them.
    4. Eat Babies - There are no words for for the kind of deranged and deplorable imagination that thought this up.
    5. Lack morals - Every person has a sense of right and wrong regardless of whether they have a book of fairy tales to tell them what right and wrong is.
  2. Creationists like to ask, "How do you know the Big Bang happened? Were you there?" Yeah....right. Because I'm sure you were right there picking up shells while toddling along the bottom of the Red Sea, as the water was standing as two walls, waiting for you to cross, right?

  3. “Evolution is just a theory” demonstrates an almost misunderstanding of what a scientific theory actually is. A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on knowledge that has been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experimentation. The non-scientific word theory refers to a guess or conjecture, a contemplation or speculation. In science, this latter definition is actually called a hypothesis. The two terms are not interchangeable.

  4. As is the case with justice, it is the burden of the party making an assertive claim to offer proof of said claim. As in a criminal trial by jury, the prosecution needs to offer objective evidence that events took place a certain way. The job of the defence is to show why the arguments of the prosecution are not valid. In such a court situation, the prosecution could never say “Well, this book says that such and such happened on the night of July 15th, therefore it is true.” The referenced book would immediately be questioned along the lines of who the author was, what their intentions and motivations were, when it was written, whether the writers were credible and in their right minds, etc. Since this horse shit doesn’t work in a trial, why do we suffer it to work for explanations of the entire universe? When science makes a claim, it is substantiated with plenty of objective evidence, yet when a religion claims something, the only justification is “well, there must be a God because we have sunsets.” Ah, of course, why didn’t we silly scientists think of that? And “You can’t prove God doesn’t exist” is the coward’s shifting of the burden of proof.

  5. Science and theism cannot co-exist. At all. They are opposite, nemeses, antonyms, call it whatever you wish. Anyone who claims to live by both is fooling themselves and not truly following either.
These are just a few things that most atheists can agree on. And I, personally, don' think a single one of them is unreasonable.

Why can I not be an atheist and believe in the laws of physics? I think physics drives everything. Physics -> chemistry -> biology -> life -> man -> religion
You were fine right up until you hit religion. Sorry, physics does not dovetail with religion. So, my question would be when the latter contradicts the former, which do you go with?
 
  1. Atheists Do not:
    1. Hate God - There is no God.
    2. Worship Satan - There is no Satan.
    3. Hate Christians - Christians were all born atheists, and then had religion forced upon them.
    4. Eat Babies - There are no words for for the kind of deranged and deplorable imagination that thought this up.
    5. Lack morals - Every person has a sense of right and wrong regardless of whether they have a book of fairy tales to tell them what right and wrong is.
  2. Creationists like to ask, "How do you know the Big Bang happened? Were you there?" Yeah....right. Because I'm sure you were right there picking up shells while toddling along the bottom of the Red Sea, as the water was standing as two walls, waiting for you to cross, right?

  3. “Evolution is just a theory” demonstrates an almost misunderstanding of what a scientific theory actually is. A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on knowledge that has been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experimentation. The non-scientific word theory refers to a guess or conjecture, a contemplation or speculation. In science, this latter definition is actually called a hypothesis. The two terms are not interchangeable.

  4. As is the case with justice, it is the burden of the party making an assertive claim to offer proof of said claim. As in a criminal trial by jury, the prosecution needs to offer objective evidence that events took place a certain way. The job of the defence is to show why the arguments of the prosecution are not valid. In such a court situation, the prosecution could never say “Well, this book says that such and such happened on the night of July 15th, therefore it is true.” The referenced book would immediately be questioned along the lines of who the author was, what their intentions and motivations were, when it was written, whether the writers were credible and in their right minds, etc. Since this horse shit doesn’t work in a trial, why do we suffer it to work for explanations of the entire universe? When science makes a claim, it is substantiated with plenty of objective evidence, yet when a religion claims something, the only justification is “well, there must be a God because we have sunsets.” Ah, of course, why didn’t we silly scientists think of that? And “You can’t prove God doesn’t exist” is the coward’s shifting of the burden of proof.

  5. Science and theism cannot co-exist. At all. They are opposite, nemeses, antonyms, call it whatever you wish. Anyone who claims to live by both is fooling themselves and not truly following either.
These are just a few things that most atheists can agree on. And I, personally, don' think a single one of them is unreasonable.

Science and theism can co-exist. They just do not overlap.
 
  1. Atheists Do not:
    1. Hate God - There is no God.
    2. Worship Satan - There is no Satan.
    3. Hate Christians - Christians were all born atheists, and then had religion forced upon them.
    4. Eat Babies - There are no words for for the kind of deranged and deplorable imagination that thought this up.
    5. Lack morals - Every person has a sense of right and wrong regardless of whether they have a book of fairy tales to tell them what right and wrong is.
Let's consider the Atheists known as Jews.

1) Jews hate Jesus, so they hate God, even though they deny Jesus is God.

2) Jews are the Devil's spawn, even though a Jew might claim not to believe in the Devil.

3) Jews hate Christians. Duh.

4) Jews eat babies... maybe not, but Jewish rabbies like to preform oral sex on babies.

5) Jews lack morals. Duh.
 
  1. Atheists Do not:
    1. Hate God - There is no God.
    2. Worship Satan - There is no Satan.
    3. Hate Christians - Christians were all born atheists, and then had religion forced upon them.
    4. Eat Babies - There are no words for for the kind of deranged and deplorable imagination that thought this up.
    5. Lack morals - Every person has a sense of right and wrong regardless of whether they have a book of fairy tales to tell them what right and wrong is.
  2. Creationists like to ask, "How do you know the Big Bang happened? Were you there?" Yeah....right. Because I'm sure you were right there picking up shells while toddling along the bottom of the Red Sea, as the water was standing as two walls, waiting for you to cross, right?

  3. “Evolution is just a theory” demonstrates an almost misunderstanding of what a scientific theory actually is. A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on knowledge that has been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experimentation. The non-scientific word theory refers to a guess or conjecture, a contemplation or speculation. In science, this latter definition is actually called a hypothesis. The two terms are not interchangeable.

  4. As is the case with justice, it is the burden of the party making an assertive claim to offer proof of said claim. As in a criminal trial by jury, the prosecution needs to offer objective evidence that events took place a certain way. The job of the defence is to show why the arguments of the prosecution are not valid. In such a court situation, the prosecution could never say “Well, this book says that such and such happened on the night of July 15th, therefore it is true.” The referenced book would immediately be questioned along the lines of who the author was, what their intentions and motivations were, when it was written, whether the writers were credible and in their right minds, etc. Since this horse shit doesn’t work in a trial, why do we suffer it to work for explanations of the entire universe? When science makes a claim, it is substantiated with plenty of objective evidence, yet when a religion claims something, the only justification is “well, there must be a God because we have sunsets.” Ah, of course, why didn’t we silly scientists think of that? And “You can’t prove God doesn’t exist” is the coward’s shifting of the burden of proof.

  5. Science and theism cannot co-exist. At all. They are opposite, nemeses, antonyms, call it whatever you wish. Anyone who claims to live by both is fooling themselves and not truly following either.
These are just a few things that most atheists can agree on. And I, personally, don' think a single one of them is unreasonable.

Science and theism can co-exist. They just do not overlap.
Well...by co-exist, I mean that you can't pretend to be both a scientist, and religious. It is a foregone conclusion that, sooner or later, the two will contradict one another. Then you're going to have to choose which one you are - a scientist, or a theist.
 
  1. Atheists Do not:
    1. Hate God - There is no God.
    2. Worship Satan - There is no Satan.
    3. Hate Christians - Christians were all born atheists, and then had religion forced upon them.
    4. Eat Babies - There are no words for for the kind of deranged and deplorable imagination that thought this up.
    5. Lack morals - Every person has a sense of right and wrong regardless of whether they have a book of fairy tales to tell them what right and wrong is.
Let's consider the Atheists known as Jews.
You went wrong, right there. Jews, by definition, are not atheists. They worship Yaweh. The same fucking god that is in your Bible!!!!!
 
In other words, atheists are just like everyone else. They want everyone else to think just the way they do. ;)
Yeah, the difference is we don't threaten to kill you, or pass laws to require you to do so. ;)
Absolutely! When someone says a person was martyred, everyone immediately thinks of atheists.


And Christians always think of themselves. "waaaah, I'm a martyr, I lost the court battle for creationism in the classroom...."
 
And Christians always think of themselves. "waaaah, I'm a martyr, I lost the court battle for creationism in the classroom...."

Especially Christians who believe in evolution! (We get painted with the same broad brush as Christian Creationists, so we should be able to be martyrs, too, even if we are in the majority.)

What's that? The press didn't inform you that Creationists are the minority? Well, you know what Mark Twain said about that. Those who don't keep up with the news are uninformed, while those who do keep up with the news are misinformed.

I'm still trying to figure out which group most atheists who frequent Religion Forums fall into. Are they the uninformed, or are they the misinformed? What say you?
 
  1. Atheists Do not:
    1. Hate God - There is no God.
    2. Worship Satan - There is no Satan.
    3. Hate Christians - Christians were all born atheists, and then had religion forced upon them.
    4. Eat Babies - There are no words for for the kind of deranged and deplorable imagination that thought this up.
    5. Lack morals - Every person has a sense of right and wrong regardless of whether they have a book of fairy tales to tell them what right and wrong is.
  2. Creationists like to ask, "How do you know the Big Bang happened? Were you there?" Yeah....right. Because I'm sure you were right there picking up shells while toddling along the bottom of the Red Sea, as the water was standing as two walls, waiting for you to cross, right?

  3. “Evolution is just a theory” demonstrates an almost misunderstanding of what a scientific theory actually is. A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on knowledge that has been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experimentation. The non-scientific word theory refers to a guess or conjecture, a contemplation or speculation. In science, this latter definition is actually called a hypothesis. The two terms are not interchangeable.

  4. As is the case with justice, it is the burden of the party making an assertive claim to offer proof of said claim. As in a criminal trial by jury, the prosecution needs to offer objective evidence that events took place a certain way. The job of the defence is to show why the arguments of the prosecution are not valid. In such a court situation, the prosecution could never say “Well, this book says that such and such happened on the night of July 15th, therefore it is true.” The referenced book would immediately be questioned along the lines of who the author was, what their intentions and motivations were, when it was written, whether the writers were credible and in their right minds, etc. Since this horse shit doesn’t work in a trial, why do we suffer it to work for explanations of the entire universe? When science makes a claim, it is substantiated with plenty of objective evidence, yet when a religion claims something, the only justification is “well, there must be a God because we have sunsets.” Ah, of course, why didn’t we silly scientists think of that? And “You can’t prove God doesn’t exist” is the coward’s shifting of the burden of proof.

  5. Science and theism cannot co-exist. At all. They are opposite, nemeses, antonyms, call it whatever you wish. Anyone who claims to live by both is fooling themselves and not truly following either.
These are just a few things that most atheists can agree on. And I, personally, don' think a single one of them is unreasonable.
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Science and theism cannot co-exist. At all.

your statement is absurd, you are just someone who has gone over the edge ...

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the scientist above is a perfect example, someone in the middle, neither of the two - science has proven everymuch as irresponsible as the desert religions the person above promoted the A-bomb during a world war.

science studies the unknown the same whether atheist or theist.
 
You went wrong, right there. Jews, by definition, are not atheists. They worship Yaweh. The same fucking god that is in your Bible!!!!!

How is it possible that there are people on this planet, this side of zombies, as fucking ignorant as you? You should tell a rabbi that Jews are not Atheists by definition, and watch them laugh at you. You should tell a rabbi that their god has a son, and watch them laugh at you.
 
You went wrong, right there. Jews, by definition, are not atheists. They worship Yaweh. The same fucking god that is in your Bible!!!!!

How is it possible that there are people on this planet, this side of zombies, as fucking ignorant as you? You should tell a rabbi that Jews are not Atheists by definition, and watch them laugh at you. You should tell a rabbi that their god has a son, and watch them laugh at you.
How do you manage to tie your shoes in the morning? Do you own a Bible? Have you ever noticed that there is this part called "The Old Testament"? This may come as a shock to you, since your intelligence level seems to be just above that of a common Tree Frog, but the "Old Testament" is actually the Tanakh - the Jewish designation, a kind of acronym based on the first letters of the Hebrew names for the three chief sections of scripture: Torah (Law, Pentateuch), Nebiim (Prophets), and Ketubim (Writings). In short It is the very basis for Judaism. The God they worship, is the same God that Christians worship. The difference between Jews, and Christians isn't their God; it is the recognition of the Nazarene as divine, the Son of God, and the Messiah.

How about you do yourself a favour, and just stick to topics you know...like, maybe...how many licks it takes to get to the centre of a Tootsie Pop. It will prevent you from looking like any more of a fuckwit than you already do.
 
You went wrong, right there. Jews, by definition, are not atheists. They worship Yaweh. The same fucking god that is in your Bible!!!!!

How is it possible that there are people on this planet, this side of zombies, as fucking ignorant as you? You should tell a rabbi that Jews are not Atheists by definition, and watch them laugh at you. You should tell a rabbi that their god has a son, and watch them laugh at you.
How do you manage to tie your shoes in the morning? Do you own a Bible? Have you ever noticed that there is this part called "The Old Testament"? This may come as a shock to you, since your intelligence level seems to be just above that of a common Tree Frog, but the "Old Testament" is actually the Tanakh - the Jewish designation, a kind of acronym based on the first letters of the Hebrew names for the three chief sections of scripture: Torah (Law, Pentateuch), Nebiim (Prophets), and Ketubim (Writings). In short It is the very basis for Judaism. The God they worship, is the same God that Christians worship. The difference between Jews, and Christians isn't their God; it is the recognition of the Nazarene as divine, the Son of God, and the Messiah.

How about you do yourself a favour, and just stick to topics you know...like, maybe...how many licks it takes to get to the centre of a Tootsie Pop. It will prevent you from looking like any more of a fuckwit than you already do.

The Jews call the OT the Tanakh, therefor their god has a son and Jews by definition are not Atheists? Moron.
 
You went wrong, right there. Jews, by definition, are not atheists. They worship Yaweh. The same fucking god that is in your Bible!!!!!

How is it possible that there are people on this planet, this side of zombies, as fucking ignorant as you? You should tell a rabbi that Jews are not Atheists by definition, and watch them laugh at you. You should tell a rabbi that their god has a son, and watch them laugh at you.
How do you manage to tie your shoes in the morning? Do you own a Bible? Have you ever noticed that there is this part called "The Old Testament"? This may come as a shock to you, since your intelligence level seems to be just above that of a common Tree Frog, but the "Old Testament" is actually the Tanakh - the Jewish designation, a kind of acronym based on the first letters of the Hebrew names for the three chief sections of scripture: Torah (Law, Pentateuch), Nebiim (Prophets), and Ketubim (Writings). In short It is the very basis for Judaism. The God they worship, is the same God that Christians worship. The difference between Jews, and Christians isn't their God; it is the recognition of the Nazarene as divine, the Son of God, and the Messiah.

How about you do yourself a favour, and just stick to topics you know...like, maybe...how many licks it takes to get to the centre of a Tootsie Pop. It will prevent you from looking like any more of a fuckwit than you already do.

The Jews call the OT the Tanakh, therefor their god has a son and Jews by definition are not Atheists? Moron.
What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you brain damaged? Or were you born this retarded? I'm not even going to respond to your idiotic post, because it has nothing to do with what I actually posted. When you learn to read words bigger than "See spot run", maybe you can go back, read my post again, and be capable of an actual intelligent response. I doubt it, but hope springs eternal.
 

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