These Blue States Have Tried the Elizabeth Warren Model. Their Residents Are Fleeing.

[bripat9643]

Economic plans rooted in envy fail.

Hogwash, the sort of trickle up economics conservatives hate has done more to raise the basic standard of living than any of their favored supply-side bullshit.

Economic plans rooted in envy fail.

Hogwash, the sort of trickle up economics conservatives hate has done more to raise the basic standard of living than any of their favored supply-side bullshit.

Yet, the poverty rate is the same as it was in 1970. How does that support your case?

 

[jasonnfree]

Economic plans rooted in envy fail.

Says the person that wouldn't of done anything in 1900 to stop standard oil. Says the person that believes the poor should climb up the ladder only if they're extremely lucky! Says the person that believes it is fair for the rich to be taking most of the profit and increasely screwing the worker over.

Your idea of morality isn't right and your ideas has destroyed the middle class we once had.

You do realize that Standard Oil elevated the lives of poor people in this country by making energy available to them...right?Lights at night were no longer just a rich man's pleasure......

Monopolies are not a good thing to anyone except the monopoly holders.

The only monopolies are government monopolies...education, the post office....

The truth about The Robber Barrons and Standard Oil...and how they made life better for poor people....

Mises Daily Mises Institute



As a result, the company cut its cost of refining a gallon of oil from 3 cents in 1869 to less than half a cent by 1885. Significantly, Rockefeller passed these savings along to the consumer, as the price of refined oil plummeted from more than 30 cents per gallon in 1869 to 10 cents in 1874 and 8 cents in 1885.[28]

Because he could refine kerosene far more cheaply than anyone else could, which was reflected in his low prices, the railroads offered Rockefeller special low prices, or volume discounts. This is a common, ordinary business practice — offering volume discounts to one's largest customers in order to keep them — but Rockefeller's less efficient competitors complained bitterly. Nothing was stopping them from cutting their costs and prices and winning similar railroad rebates other than their own inabilities or laziness, but they apparently decided that it was easier to complain about Rockefeller's "unfair advantage" instead.

Cornelius Vanderbilt publicly offered railroad rebates to any oil refiner who could give him the same volume of business that Rockefeller did, but since no one was as efficient as Rockefeller, no one could take him up on his offer.[29]

All of Rockefeller's savings benefited the consumer, as his low prices made kerosene readily available to Americans. Indeed, in the 1870s kerosene replaced whale oil as the primary source of fuel for light in America. It might seem trivial today, but this revolutionized the American way of life; as Burton Folsom writes, "Working and reading became after-dark activities new to most Americans in the 1870s."[30] In addition, by stimulating the demand for kerosene and other products, Rockefeller also created thousands upon thousands of new jobs in the oil and related industries.

Rockefeller was extremely generous with his employees, usually paying them significantly more than the competition did. Consequently, he was rarely slowed down by strikes or labor disputes. He also believed in rewarding his most innovative managers with bonuses and paid time off if they came up with good ideas for productivity improvements, a simple lesson that many modern corporations seem never to have learned.

John D Rockefeller, hero of the working class, you people are sick.

Not sick, just stupid. Carrying water for the predatory corporate class. Anyone who has done any reading of American history could soon find out that Rockefeller was a psychopath as well as a criminal.

 

[The Rabbi]

Says the person that wouldn't of done anything in 1900 to stop standard oil. Says the person that believes the poor should climb up the ladder only if they're extremely lucky! Says the person that believes it is fair for the rich to be taking most of the profit and increasely screwing the worker over.

Your idea of morality isn't right and your ideas has destroyed the middle class we once had.

You do realize that Standard Oil elevated the lives of poor people in this country by making energy available to them...right?Lights at night were no longer just a rich man's pleasure......

Monopolies are not a good thing to anyone except the monopoly holders.

The only monopolies are government monopolies...education, the post office....

The truth about The Robber Barrons and Standard Oil...and how they made life better for poor people....

Mises Daily Mises Institute



As a result, the company cut its cost of refining a gallon of oil from 3 cents in 1869 to less than half a cent by 1885. Significantly, Rockefeller passed these savings along to the consumer, as the price of refined oil plummeted from more than 30 cents per gallon in 1869 to 10 cents in 1874 and 8 cents in 1885.[28]

Because he could refine kerosene far more cheaply than anyone else could, which was reflected in his low prices, the railroads offered Rockefeller special low prices, or volume discounts. This is a common, ordinary business practice — offering volume discounts to one's largest customers in order to keep them — but Rockefeller's less efficient competitors complained bitterly. Nothing was stopping them from cutting their costs and prices and winning similar railroad rebates other than their own inabilities or laziness, but they apparently decided that it was easier to complain about Rockefeller's "unfair advantage" instead.

Cornelius Vanderbilt publicly offered railroad rebates to any oil refiner who could give him the same volume of business that Rockefeller did, but since no one was as efficient as Rockefeller, no one could take him up on his offer.[29]

All of Rockefeller's savings benefited the consumer, as his low prices made kerosene readily available to Americans. Indeed, in the 1870s kerosene replaced whale oil as the primary source of fuel for light in America. It might seem trivial today, but this revolutionized the American way of life; as Burton Folsom writes, "Working and reading became after-dark activities new to most Americans in the 1870s."[30] In addition, by stimulating the demand for kerosene and other products, Rockefeller also created thousands upon thousands of new jobs in the oil and related industries.

Rockefeller was extremely generous with his employees, usually paying them significantly more than the competition did. Consequently, he was rarely slowed down by strikes or labor disputes. He also believed in rewarding his most innovative managers with bonuses and paid time off if they came up with good ideas for productivity improvements, a simple lesson that many modern corporations seem never to have learned.

John D Rockefeller, hero of the working class, you people are sick.

Not sick, just stupid. Carrying water for the predatory corporate class. Anyone who has done any reading of American history could soon find out that Rockefeller was a psychopath as well as a criminal.

Actually virtually every Leftist could fall into that category as well.
What's yer point?

 

[bripat9643]

Says the person that wouldn't of done anything in 1900 to stop standard oil. Says the person that believes the poor should climb up the ladder only if they're extremely lucky! Says the person that believes it is fair for the rich to be taking most of the profit and increasely screwing the worker over.

Your idea of morality isn't right and your ideas has destroyed the middle class we once had.

You do realize that Standard Oil elevated the lives of poor people in this country by making energy available to them...right?Lights at night were no longer just a rich man's pleasure......

Monopolies are not a good thing to anyone except the monopoly holders.

The only monopolies are government monopolies...education, the post office....

The truth about The Robber Barrons and Standard Oil...and how they made life better for poor people....

Mises Daily Mises Institute



As a result, the company cut its cost of refining a gallon of oil from 3 cents in 1869 to less than half a cent by 1885. Significantly, Rockefeller passed these savings along to the consumer, as the price of refined oil plummeted from more than 30 cents per gallon in 1869 to 10 cents in 1874 and 8 cents in 1885.[28]

Because he could refine kerosene far more cheaply than anyone else could, which was reflected in his low prices, the railroads offered Rockefeller special low prices, or volume discounts. This is a common, ordinary business practice — offering volume discounts to one's largest customers in order to keep them — but Rockefeller's less efficient competitors complained bitterly. Nothing was stopping them from cutting their costs and prices and winning similar railroad rebates other than their own inabilities or laziness, but they apparently decided that it was easier to complain about Rockefeller's "unfair advantage" instead.

Cornelius Vanderbilt publicly offered railroad rebates to any oil refiner who could give him the same volume of business that Rockefeller did, but since no one was as efficient as Rockefeller, no one could take him up on his offer.[29]

All of Rockefeller's savings benefited the consumer, as his low prices made kerosene readily available to Americans. Indeed, in the 1870s kerosene replaced whale oil as the primary source of fuel for light in America. It might seem trivial today, but this revolutionized the American way of life; as Burton Folsom writes, "Working and reading became after-dark activities new to most Americans in the 1870s."[30] In addition, by stimulating the demand for kerosene and other products, Rockefeller also created thousands upon thousands of new jobs in the oil and related industries.

Rockefeller was extremely generous with his employees, usually paying them significantly more than the competition did. Consequently, he was rarely slowed down by strikes or labor disputes. He also believed in rewarding his most innovative managers with bonuses and paid time off if they came up with good ideas for productivity improvements, a simple lesson that many modern corporations seem never to have learned.

John D Rockefeller, hero of the working class, you people are sick.

Not sick, just stupid. Carrying water for the predatory corporate class. Anyone who has done any reading of American history could soon find out that Rockefeller was a psychopath as well as a criminal.

He was neither, but you are definitely an idiot.

 

[rdean]

We have seen a dramatic demonstration in differences in policy.
California and Illinois raised taxes to close budget gaps. California and Illinois are still beset with budget gaps.
Wisconsin and Indiana and Tennessee cut government spending to close budget gaps. Those states have all closed their budget gaps and cut taxes in some cases as well.
Maryland raised taxes on millionaires. Maryland saw the largest drop in number of millionaires in the state ever.
It is so painfully obvious only a brain dead moron or a liberal (I repeat myself) could believe that raising taxes on the rich will produce any social benefit at all. It doesnt. Not only doesnt it not hurt the rich (who figure out ways around it) it hurts the poor, who are usually employees of the rich. But libs dont get that.

Tennessee is a cheap labor right to work state. The refusal of the medicaid expansion has really hurt the people and the economy of Tennessee.
Draconian immigration laws have hurt farmers.
Wisconsin rank LAST in midwest job creation.
Indiana has been accused of "cooking the books" on job creation.

2U Named Tech Company of the Year by Maryland s Chesapeake Regional Council - Press 2U

 

[Edgetho]

It takes time to overcome the filth and slime of decades of dimocrap scum corruption

Wisconsin Ranks 1st in the Midwest for Private Sector Growth Rate in November

Wisconsin Ranks 1st in the Midwest for Private Sector Growth Rate in November
State's gain of 16,500 private-sector jobs ranks 5th in the nation for number of jobs added

MADISON – Wisconsin ranks first among Midwest states in rate of job growth for the month of November, according to today's release of U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics' (BLS) state-by-state employment and unemployment estimates. When looking at number of jobs added, Wisconsin ranked 5th in the nation and second in the Midwest with 16,500 jobs created. The series also indicates the state has fully recovered all private-sector jobs lost during the deep, national recession.

"Wisconsin's private sector is moving Wisconsin's economy forward as we put the hard times of the Great Recession further behind us," Department of Workforce Development (DWD) Secretary Newson said. "Last month we led the Midwest in the rate of private sector job growth, and we were second highest in the Midwest in the rate of year-over-year private sector job growth. It comes as no surprise that Forbes magazine recently ranked Wisconsin as best in the Midwest for future economic growth."

and dimocraps are lying scum

period

 

[g5000]

Yet, the poverty rate is the same as it was in 1970. How does that support your case?

If you use the same metrics for 1970 and today, the poverty rate is much lower now than it was then.

 

[g5000]

Who's poor in America? 50 years into the 'War on Poverty', a data portrait | Pew Research Center

Critics note that the official poverty rate, as calculated by the Census Bureau, has fallen only modestly, from 19% in 1964 to 15% in 2012 (the most recent year available). But other analysts, citing shortcomings in the official poverty measure, focus on a supplemental measure (also produced by the Census Bureau) to argue that more progress has been made. A team of researchers from Columbia University, for example, calculated an "anchored" supplemental measure - essentially the 2012 measure carried back through time and adjusted for historical inflation - and found that it fell from about 26% in 1967 to 16% in 2012.

Far fewer elderly are poor: In 1966, 28.5% of Americans ages 65 and over were poor; by 2012 just 9.1% were.

http://media.jsonline.com/documents/Medicare2000.pdf

. In 1964, nearly half of all seniors were
uninsured, making the elderly among the least likely Americans
to have health insurance. Today, with 97 percent of seniors
covered by Medicare, the elderly are the most likely to have
insurance.

More bad news, from the same link I posted above:

Poverty among blacks has fallen sharply: In 1966, two years after Johnson’s speech, four-in-ten (41.8%) of African-Americans were poor; blacks constituted nearly a third (31.1%) of all poor Americans. By 2012, poverty among African-Americans had fallen to 27.2% — still more than double the rate among whites (12.7%, 1.4 percentage points higher than in 1966).

Ain't that a bitch?

Now you can spend the next 50 pages pretending you didn't see this post.

 

[Edgetho]

If you use the same metrics for 1970 and today, the poverty rate is much lower now than it was then.

THAT is one of the stupidest fucking statements ever to be posted on this fucking Board.

And that is saying something.