There is something seriously wrong with this mans "mind"

[Spoonman]

No, but I do know you are...you, like fitnah, think he is talking about something he is not.

Well that's because we go by what he actually says, instead of replacing his words with what we THINK he should have said.

hahahaha! Fitnah is the one that did that. He is not talking about islamic fundamentalism throwing off their oppressive governments, you twit. He's talking about moderate muslims throwing off their oppressors.

Quit using Jews as tools, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Hey, I saw the 10 Commandments. Those mud devils made great tools for making pharohs bricks

 

[R.D.]

Silly Babble. You said it wasn't about freedom. It most certainly is.

You really don't know you're stupid, do you?

No, but I do know you are...you, like fitnah, think he is talking about something he is not.

How cute, third grade???

I know what he said, you can keep your wishful interpretations. I'll stick with the facts.

 

[syrenn]

No, but I do know you are...you, like fitnah, think he is talking about something he is not.

Well that's because we go by what he actually says, instead of replacing his words with what we THINK he should have said.

hahahaha! Fitnah is the one that did that. He is not talking about islamic fundamentalism throwing off their oppressive governments, you twit. He's talking about moderate muslims throwing off their oppressors.

Quit using Jews as tools, you should be ashamed of yourself.

And what does any of that have anything to do with passover?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Yeah no correlation between the Jew winning their freedom from slavery and oppression and the Arab on the streets fighting for freedom from oppression. Okay they are not quite slaves to the King, but close.

Somethings wrong with somebodies mind.

Baracknaphobics.

They are not fighting for freedom.

They are fighting to make people act the way they want them to act.

The best we can hope for is a singular theocracy. If not, expect these freedom fighters to turn on each other.

Yes there are many who are fighting for western style freedoms.

Yes there are theocrats who are fighting for a Theocracy

Yes I expect there will be much in-fighting between the various groups.

I think it's great how the President get these religionist's panties into a tight wad. It's hillarious.

Hell.....just tryin' to stay ahead of them is a chore!!!!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1c8-a-OaNk]YouTube - PAT ROBERTSON is Insane and a LIAR - Prophecies UNFULFILLED[/ame]

 

[AllieBaba]

Moderate Muslims throwing off their oppressors?
Lol..where is that happening?

 

[BlindBoo]

The Jews didn't win their freedom. PASSOVER is a celebration of God protecting the Jews when all the first born in Egypt were killed.

It's not a celebration of FREEDOM. It's a celebration of the PASSOVER, when the Holy Ghost passed over all the households that had lambs blood on the door.

What about this is so difficult? The whole point is that they didn't EARN their freedom. It was granted to them by God, and that is what the celebration is about.

Not about fighting for freedom. That's just stupid.

Sorry I read the article and the President was participating in the Passover Seder.

The Seder is a ritual performed by a community or by multiple generations of a family, involving a retelling of the story of the liberation of the Israelites from slavery in ancient Egypt.

Since I don't believe in a God who grants gifts to us mortals, I'll believe they earned/won their freedom. You can certainly call that stupid. I'll hold off on my opinion of you.

I don't give a shit what you believe. What we're discussing is whether PASSOVER is a celebration of FREEDOM.

It isn't. It's a celebration of God. That's what it's about. It's not about anything else. It doesn't matter if you believe in God or not. The celebration and all the rituals that go with it are in REMEBRANCE of the GREATNESS of GOD.

You're not discussing anything. "In his annual message, prior to his third straight participation in the Passover Seder"

The Seder is a ritual performed by a community or by multiple generations of a family, involving a retelling of the story of the liberation of the Israelites from slavery in ancient Egypt.

Passover Seder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think it is a good analogy and is certianly not evidence that anyting is wrong with his mind. If anything it is the rabid righties that are loosing their collective mind over everything President Obama does and says.

 

[R.D.]

No, but I do know you are...you, like fitnah, think he is talking about something he is not.

Well that's because we go by what he actually says, instead of replacing his words with what we THINK he should have said.

hahahaha! Fitnah is the one that did that. He is not talking about islamic fundamentalism throwing off their oppressive governments, you twit. He's talking about moderate muslims throwing off their oppressors.

Quit using Jews as tools, you should be ashamed of yourself.

God had a hand in the Jews freedoms celebrated in Passover. To equate the two you must also believe Muhammad was God's messenger

Not a difficult concept to grasp.

 

[syrenn]

Moderate Muslims throwing off their oppressors?
Lol..where is that happening?

And that is is so funny (if that is a good word) What does passover have ANYTHING to do with anything muslim?

 

[Ravi]

Well that's because we go by what he actually says, instead of replacing his words with what we THINK he should have said.

hahahaha! Fitnah is the one that did that. He is not talking about islamic fundamentalism throwing off their oppressive governments, you twit. He's talking about moderate muslims throwing off their oppressors.

Quit using Jews as tools, you should be ashamed of yourself.

And what does any of that have anything to do with passover?

Besides the fact that the Jews threw off their oppressors in Egypt? Nothing.

 

[AllieBaba]

Sorry I read the article and the President was participating in the Passover Seder.

The Seder is a ritual performed by a community or by multiple generations of a family, involving a retelling of the story of the liberation of the Israelites from slavery in ancient Egypt.

Since I don't believe in a God who grants gifts to us mortals, I'll believe they earned/won their freedom. You can certainly call that stupid. I'll hold off on my opinion of you.

I don't give a shit what you believe. What we're discussing is whether PASSOVER is a celebration of FREEDOM.

It isn't. It's a celebration of God. That's what it's about. It's not about anything else. It doesn't matter if you believe in God or not. The celebration and all the rituals that go with it are in REMEBRANCE of the GREATNESS of GOD.

You're not discussing anything. "In his annual message, prior to his third straight participation in the Passover Seder"

The Seder is a ritual performed by a community or by multiple generations of a family, involving a retelling of the story of the liberation of the Israelites from slavery in ancient Egypt.

Passover Seder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think it is a good analogy and is certianly not evidence that anyting is wrong with his mind. If anything it is the rabid righties that are loosing their collective mind over everything President Obama does and says.

 

[BlindBoo]

The Jews didn't win their freedom. PASSOVER is a celebration of God protecting the Jews when all the first born in Egypt were killed.

It's not a celebration of FREEDOM. It's a celebration of the PASSOVER, when the Holy Ghost passed over all the households that had lambs blood on the door.

What about this is so difficult? The whole point is that they didn't EARN their freedom. It was granted to them by God, and that is what the celebration is about.

Not about fighting for freedom. That's just stupid.

Sorry I read the article and the President was participating in the Passover Seder.

The Seder is a ritual performed by a community or by multiple generations of a family, involving a retelling of the story of the liberation of the Israelites from slavery in ancient Egypt.

Since I don't believe in a God who grants gifts to us mortals, I'll believe they earned/won their freedom. You can certainly call that stupid. I'll hold off on my opinion of you.

Dude, it was an Easter Prayer gathering. You know, Easter, which divulges Christianity away from Judiasm. The Seder is a jewish thing, not a christian thing.

The article referred to the President participating in the Passover Seder.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

God this is fucking annoying...

before you opine on the meaning of a holiday, perhaps you should spend what, 2 seconds, researching it:

"The Israelites were instructed to mark the doorposts of their homes with the blood of a spring lamb and, upon seeing this, the spirit of the Lord passed over these homes, hence the term "passover".[1] When Pharaoh freed the Israelites, it is said that they left in such a hurry that they could not wait for bread dough to rise (leaven). In commemoration, for the duration of Passover no leavened bread is eaten, for which reason it is called "The Festival of the Unleavened Bread".[2] Matzo (flat unleavened bread) is a symbol of the holiday.
Together with Shavuot ("Pentecost") and Sukkot ("Tabernacles"), Passover is one of the three pilgrimage festivals (Shalosh Regalim) during which the entire Jewish populace historically made a pilgrimage to the Temple in Jerusalem. Samaritans still make this pilgrimage to Mount Gerizim, but only men participate in public worship."

Passover - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"God had instructed the Israelites to slay a lamb or a kid and to place its blood around their doors as protection from "the plague of death". That night they ate the lamb in preparation for their march from Egypt. They were to observe this "pass over" annually in he springtime.
But the sacrifice of an innocent lamb year by year also looked forward to the death of Jesus Christ some fifteen hundred years later. In God's continuing revelation to His people the eternal concept unfolded of one individual becoming a "lamb to the slaughter" (Isaiah 53). Naturally, Christians understood this of Jesus Christ and wanted to remember it, as Jesus instructed the disciples.
Jesus was called "the Lamb of God" by John the Baptist (John 1:29, 36), and the New Testament amply verifies the symbolism. Paul, for example, wrote "Christ our Passover [lamb] is sacrificed for us" (I Corinthians 5:7)."

The Christian Meaning of the Lord's Supper and Passover

I see no justification for the assertion that it's a dilute holiday that has nothing to do with God and only celebrates *freedom*. Lol.

What idiots.

LOL and what does the Wikipedia say about the Passover Seder?

Passover Seder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What, what?

It says exactly what I said it means:

"The Seder itself is based on the Biblical verse commanding Jews to retell the story of the Exodus from Egypt: "You shall tell your child on that day, saying, 'It is because of what the LORD did for me when I came out of Egypt.' "

In other words, it's a celebration of the protection of God.

Meant to remind people of what they owe to God.

You mean.....BESIDES....

.....a serious ass-kickin'??!!!

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[Ravi]

Just another thread highlighting the rightwingloon ODS.

 

[BlindBoo]

They are not fighting for freedom.

They are fighting to make people act the way they want them to act.

The best we can hope for is a singular theocracy. If not, expect these freedom fighters to turn on each other.

Yes there are many who are fighting for western style freedoms.

Yes there are theocrats who are fighting for a Theocracy

Yes I expect there will be much in-fighting between the various groups.

I think it's great how the President get these religionist's panties into a tight wad. It's hillarious.

Really?

You think the leader of our nation insulting our only ally in the ME and millions of Americans is hillarious?

You might want to re-think supporting a leader that treats America and it's allies like they were nothing.

and plz, none of this; But Bush did...... crap.

No I said the Religionist's. Not sane and rational people, like most Israelis and Americans, but the base morons who think the President is not American, and is a secret Muslim, and wants to destroy America with his uber socialist agenda. You know the type don't ya?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

They are not fighting for freedom.

They are fighting to make people act the way they want them to act.

The best we can hope for is a singular theocracy. If not, expect these freedom fighters to turn on each other.

Yes there are many who are fighting for western style freedoms.

Yes there are theocrats who are fighting for a Theocracy

Yes I expect there will be much in-fighting between the various groups.

I think it's great how the President get these religionist's panties into a tight wad. It's hillarious.

Really?

You think the leader of our nation insulting our only ally in the ME and millions of Americans is hillarious?

When we're PAYING for "allies", we're entitled to certain liberties....like CONSISTENCY!!

If they don't like that, what're their OPTIONS??

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[Spoonman]

hahahaha! Fitnah is the one that did that. He is not talking about islamic fundamentalism throwing off their oppressive governments, you twit. He's talking about moderate muslims throwing off their oppressors.

Quit using Jews as tools, you should be ashamed of yourself.

And what does any of that have anything to do with passover?

Besides the fact that the Jews threw off their oppressors in Egypt? Nothing.

But how does that have anything to do with muslims. Egyptians weren't muslims back then. They worshiped pharoh and idols

 

[Si modo]

Yes there are many who are fighting for western style freedoms.

Yes there are theocrats who are fighting for a Theocracy

Yes I expect there will be much in-fighting between the various groups.

I think it's great how the President get these religionist's panties into a tight wad. It's hillarious.

Really?

You think the leader of our nation insulting our only ally in the ME and millions of Americans is hillarious?

You might want to re-think supporting a leader that treats America and it's allies like they were nothing.

and plz, none of this; But Bush did...... crap.

No I said the Religionist's. Not sane and rational people, like most Israelis and Americans, but the base morons who think the President is not American, and is a secret Muslim, and wants to destroy America with his uber socialist agenda. You know the type don't ya?

Ah. Insulting Israel is OK because he is insulting a religion, not a nation.

 

[jillian]

Obama, the Interpreter of the Message of Passover

Passover recalls the bondage and suffering of Jews in Egypt and the miracle of the Exodus, but U.S. President Barack Obama says its message is reflected in Muslim uprisings.

In his annual message, prior to his third straight participation in the Passover Seder, President Obama stated, “The story of Passover…instructs each generation to remember its past, while appreciating the beauty of freedom and the responsibility it entails. This year that ancient instruction is reflected in the daily headlines as we see modern stories of social transformation and liberation unfolding in the Middle East and North Africa.”

Obama, the Interpreter of the Message of Passover - A7 Exclusive Features - Israel News - Israel National News
Islamic fundamentalism cannot be construed as liberation unless you believe Mohammad was a prophet of god.

that is stupid. he's right about what passover is. his extrapolating out to anyone who wants freedom is *his* thing and it doesn't offend me.

you're wrong about him talking about "fundamentalism". nothing in what happened in egypt or libya has to do with fundamentalism.

i think it's nice that this is the only president EVER to make seders in the white house. i didn't see bush, the big israel-lover doing it.

just sayin'

 

[syrenn]

hahahaha! Fitnah is the one that did that. He is not talking about islamic fundamentalism throwing off their oppressive governments, you twit. He's talking about moderate muslims throwing off their oppressors.

Quit using Jews as tools, you should be ashamed of yourself.

And what does any of that have anything to do with passover?

Besides the fact that the Jews threw off their oppressors in Egypt? Nothing.

So why bring up a muslim poetical talking points during a Seder, a Jewish religious message of passover?

Rather offensive of him i think.

 

[Ravi]

Yes there are many who are fighting for western style freedoms.

Yes there are theocrats who are fighting for a Theocracy

Yes I expect there will be much in-fighting between the various groups.

I think it's great how the President get these religionist's panties into a tight wad. It's hillarious.

Really?

You think the leader of our nation insulting our only ally in the ME and millions of Americans is hillarious?

You might want to re-think supporting a leader that treats America and it's allies like they were nothing.

and plz, none of this; But Bush did...... crap.

No I said the Religionist's. Not sane and rational people, like most Israelis and Americans, but the base morons who think the President is not American, and is a secret Muslim, and wants to destroy America with his uber socialist agenda. You know the type don't ya?

Not to mention that the Israelis don't sound all that outraged or insulted. In fact they seem quite happy with Obama.

Matzah balls at the White House: Obama hosts third Passover seder - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News