There is something seriously wrong with this mans "mind"

CaféAuLait;3546428 said:
His message was insulting IMO. It is a Jewish holiday. Muslims and Jews do not get along ( especially in the ME) and for him to take that moment to bring light onto something that has real and dangerous consequences for Israel is unreal to me.

EASTER is NOT a Jewish holiday.
Idiot, he was talking about passover.
 
CaféAuLait;3546428 said:
His message was insulting IMO. It is a Jewish holiday. Muslims and Jews do not get along ( especially in the ME) and for him to take that moment to bring light onto something that has real and dangerous consequences for Israel is unreal to me.

EASTER is NOT a Jewish holiday.
I have to wonder what Easter has to do with a thread about what Obama said about the Passover seder.
 
This guy rally does need to let go of his Teleprompter addiction. This is a clear case of just reading anything they throw in front of your face. He should have read this first and then said no thanks. It really is a ridiculous speech. It sounded like it was written by some far Left loony Community Organizer Dunce. This speech had no basis in reality in any way. A real stinker for sure.
 
Yeah no correlation between the Jew winning their freedom from slavery and oppression and the Arab on the streets fighting for freedom from oppression. Okay they are not quite slaves to the King, but close.

Somethings wrong with somebodies mind.

Baracknaphobics.
 
This guy rally does need to let go of his Teleprompter addiction. This is a clear case of just reading anything they throw in front of your face. He should have read this first and then said no thanks. It really is a ridiculous speech. It sounded like it was written by some far Left loony Community Organizer Dunce. This speech had no basis in reality in any way. A real stinker for sure.

I imagine he believed every word he said. this is WHO HE IS. The left seems so confused by what he SAYS and DOES because they are just SURE he doesn't MEAN it.

He does mean it, when he says those things he means them, he's a fucking fanatical lunatic. The quicker we're rid of him the better. I hope he leaves the US for good when he's done.
 
CaféAuLait;3546428 said:
His message was insulting IMO. It is a Jewish holiday. Muslims and Jews do not get along ( especially in the ME) and for him to take that moment to bring light onto something that has real and dangerous consequences for Israel is unreal to me.

EASTER is NOT a Jewish holiday.

You're right, dummy. But off topic, fool
 
I guess you nitwits don't know that Obama didn't deliver an interpretation of passover.

For the second year running, Obama hosted an Easter prayer breakfast at the White House, and the East Room was filled with administration officials and clergy from across the country.

It was an Easter prayer breakfast. You know, that Christian holiday celebrating Jesus' cruxifiction and subsequent rising from the grave?

You may need to read the link. It's all about Passover.
 
The urge to live free is the same regardless of who has it.

Apparently not. :doubt:

You ignorant retards..Passover is NOT a generic holiday meant to celebrate freedom.

It's a RELIGIOUS holiday meant to celebrate the PROTECTION OF GOD when he destroyed the enemies of the Hebrews.
....Allowing (of course) for all the confusion over....


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Yeah no correlation between the Jew winning their freedom from slavery and oppression and the Arab on the streets fighting for freedom from oppression. Okay they are not quite slaves to the King, but close.

Somethings wrong with somebodies mind.

Baracknaphobics.

The Jews didn't win their freedom. PASSOVER is a celebration of God protecting the Jews when all the first born in Egypt were killed.

It's not a celebration of FREEDOM. It's a celebration of the PASSOVER, when the Holy Ghost passed over all the households that had lambs blood on the door.

What about this is so difficult? The whole point is that they didn't EARN their freedom. It was granted to them by God, and that is what the celebration is about.

Not about fighting for freedom. That's just stupid.
 
Yeah no correlation between the Jew winning their freedom from slavery and oppression and the Arab on the streets fighting for freedom from oppression. Okay they are not quite slaves to the King, but close.

Somethings wrong with somebodies mind.

Baracknaphobics.

They are not fighting for freedom.

They are fighting to make people act the way they want them to act.

The best we can hope for is a singular theocracy. If not, expect these freedom fighters to turn on each other.
 
The urge to live free is the same regardless of who has it.
You are missing the point. Point is obamaturd is a turd who is a socialist muslim butt kissing idiot. Islam is satans religion, passover doesn't apply to demons.

"The Seder is a ritual performed by a community or by multiple generations of a family, involving a retelling of the story of the liberation of the Israelites from slavery in ancient Egypt."

Satan's religion? Hahahahaha. Satan is the best friend the church has ever had. Satan is one of the many god like beings that encompasses then Judeo-Christian view of the world. Christians believe in the exsitance of Satan.

Any one who claims to be a Satanist, is a closet Christian. But does that also mean that all Christians are just closet Satanist?
 
God this is fucking annoying...

before you opine on the meaning of a holiday, perhaps you should spend what, 2 seconds, researching it:

"The Israelites were instructed to mark the doorposts of their homes with the blood of a spring lamb and, upon seeing this, the spirit of the Lord passed over these homes, hence the term "passover".[1] When Pharaoh freed the Israelites, it is said that they left in such a hurry that they could not wait for bread dough to rise (leaven). In commemoration, for the duration of Passover no leavened bread is eaten, for which reason it is called "The Festival of the Unleavened Bread".[2] Matzo (flat unleavened bread) is a symbol of the holiday.
Together with Shavuot ("Pentecost") and Sukkot ("Tabernacles"), Passover is one of the three pilgrimage festivals (Shalosh Regalim) during which the entire Jewish populace historically made a pilgrimage to the Temple in Jerusalem. Samaritans still make this pilgrimage to Mount Gerizim, but only men participate in public worship."

Passover - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"God had instructed the Israelites to slay a lamb or a kid and to place its blood around their doors as protection from "the plague of death". That night they ate the lamb in preparation for their march from Egypt. They were to observe this "pass over" annually in he springtime.
But the sacrifice of an innocent lamb year by year also looked forward to the death of Jesus Christ some fifteen hundred years later. In God's continuing revelation to His people the eternal concept unfolded of one individual becoming a "lamb to the slaughter" (Isaiah 53). Naturally, Christians understood this of Jesus Christ and wanted to remember it, as Jesus instructed the disciples.
Jesus was called "the Lamb of God" by John the Baptist (John 1:29, 36), and the New Testament amply verifies the symbolism. Paul, for example, wrote "Christ our Passover [lamb] is sacrificed for us" (I Corinthians 5:7)."

The Christian Meaning of the Lord's Supper and Passover

I see no justification for the assertion that it's a dilute holiday that has nothing to do with God and only celebrates *freedom*. Lol.

What idiots.
 
To try and connect this to Islam in any way or what's currently going on in the Middle East is just insulting and pretty ignorant. Time to fire his Teleprompter. This one made no sense at all. Shame shame.
 
Yeah no correlation between the Jew winning their freedom from slavery and oppression and the Arab on the streets fighting for freedom from oppression. Okay they are not quite slaves to the King, but close.

Somethings wrong with somebodies mind.

Baracknaphobics.

The Jews didn't win their freedom. PASSOVER is a celebration of God protecting the Jews when all the first born in Egypt were killed.

It's not a celebration of FREEDOM. It's a celebration of the PASSOVER, when the Holy Ghost passed over all the households that had lambs blood on the door.

What about this is so difficult? The whole point is that they didn't EARN their freedom. It was granted to them by God, and that is what the celebration is about.

Not about fighting for freedom. That's just stupid.

Sorry I read the article and the President was participating in the Passover Seder.

The Seder is a ritual performed by a community or by multiple generations of a family, involving a retelling of the story of the liberation of the Israelites from slavery in ancient Egypt.

Since I don't believe in a God who grants gifts to us mortals, I'll believe they earned/won their freedom. You can certainly call that stupid. I'll hold off on my opinion of you.
 
God this is fucking annoying...

before you opine on the meaning of a holiday, perhaps you should spend what, 2 seconds, researching it:

"The Israelites were instructed to mark the doorposts of their homes with the blood of a spring lamb and, upon seeing this, the spirit of the Lord passed over these homes, hence the term "passover".[1] When Pharaoh freed the Israelites, it is said that they left in such a hurry that they could not wait for bread dough to rise (leaven). In commemoration, for the duration of Passover no leavened bread is eaten, for which reason it is called "The Festival of the Unleavened Bread".[2] Matzo (flat unleavened bread) is a symbol of the holiday.
Together with Shavuot ("Pentecost") and Sukkot ("Tabernacles"), Passover is one of the three pilgrimage festivals (Shalosh Regalim) during which the entire Jewish populace historically made a pilgrimage to the Temple in Jerusalem. Samaritans still make this pilgrimage to Mount Gerizim, but only men participate in public worship."

Passover - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"God had instructed the Israelites to slay a lamb or a kid and to place its blood around their doors as protection from "the plague of death". That night they ate the lamb in preparation for their march from Egypt. They were to observe this "pass over" annually in he springtime.
But the sacrifice of an innocent lamb year by year also looked forward to the death of Jesus Christ some fifteen hundred years later. In God's continuing revelation to His people the eternal concept unfolded of one individual becoming a "lamb to the slaughter" (Isaiah 53). Naturally, Christians understood this of Jesus Christ and wanted to remember it, as Jesus instructed the disciples.
Jesus was called "the Lamb of God" by John the Baptist (John 1:29, 36), and the New Testament amply verifies the symbolism. Paul, for example, wrote "Christ our Passover [lamb] is sacrificed for us" (I Corinthians 5:7)."

The Christian Meaning of the Lord's Supper and Passover

I see no justification for the assertion that it's a dilute holiday that has nothing to do with God and only celebrates *freedom*. Lol.

What idiots.

LOL and what does the Wikipedia say about the Passover Seder?

Passover Seder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What, what?
 
Yeah no correlation between the Jew winning their freedom from slavery and oppression and the Arab on the streets fighting for freedom from oppression. Okay they are not quite slaves to the King, but close.

Somethings wrong with somebodies mind.

Baracknaphobics.

The Jews didn't win their freedom. PASSOVER is a celebration of God protecting the Jews when all the first born in Egypt were killed.

It's not a celebration of FREEDOM. It's a celebration of the PASSOVER, when the Holy Ghost passed over all the households that had lambs blood on the door.

What about this is so difficult? The whole point is that they didn't EARN their freedom. It was granted to them by God, and that is what the celebration is about.

Not about fighting for freedom. That's just stupid.

Sorry I read the article and the President was participating in the Passover Seder.

The Seder is a ritual performed by a community or by multiple generations of a family, involving a retelling of the story of the liberation of the Israelites from slavery in ancient Egypt.

Since I don't believe in a God who grants gifts to us mortals, I'll believe they earned/won their freedom. You can certainly call that stupid. I'll hold off on my opinion of you.

I don't give a shit what you believe. What we're discussing is whether PASSOVER is a celebration of FREEDOM.

It isn't. It's a celebration of God. That's what it's about. It's not about anything else. It doesn't matter if you believe in God or not. The celebration and all the rituals that go with it are in REMEBRANCE of the GREATNESS of GOD.
 
Yeah no correlation between the Jew winning their freedom from slavery and oppression and the Arab on the streets fighting for freedom from oppression. Okay they are not quite slaves to the King, but close.

Somethings wrong with somebodies mind.

Baracknaphobics.

They are not fighting for freedom.

They are fighting to make people act the way they want them to act.

The best we can hope for is a singular theocracy. If not, expect these freedom fighters to turn on each other.

Yes there are many who are fighting for western style freedoms.

Yes there are theocrats who are fighting for a Theocracy

Yes I expect there will be much in-fighting between the various groups.

I think it's great how the President get these religionist's panties into a tight wad. It's hillarious.
 
Obama, the Interpreter of the Message of Passover

Passover recalls the bondage and suffering of Jews in Egypt and the miracle of the Exodus, but U.S. President Barack Obama says its message is reflected in Muslim uprisings.

In his annual message, prior to his third straight participation in the Passover Seder, President Obama stated, “The story of Passover…instructs each generation to remember its past, while appreciating the beauty of freedom and the responsibility it entails. This year that ancient instruction is reflected in the daily headlines as we see modern stories of social transformation and liberation unfolding in the Middle East and North Africa.”

Obama, the Interpreter of the Message of Passover - A7 Exclusive Features - Israel News - Israel National News
Islamic fundamentalism cannot be construed as liberation unless you believe Mohammad was a prophet of god.

How do you twist a Jewish religious event, against arabs, into a political meaning of the 21st century?

Jews were slaves and treated poorly so they exscaped enmasse, or fought thier way out.

Arab dictators treat people like crap and they want to replace that with theocracy [if anyone thinks it will be democracy, you need help], then the tribal rivalries, that the dictator kept underwraps, will re-ignight.
Don't we know that??!!!

"Iran had been ruled since 1925 by a military dictator who crowned himself Shah with the blessing of the British government. A joint British-Soviet invasion ousted the Shah in 1941 when he appeared sympathetic to the Nazis and installed his 22-year-old son instead.

In January 1952, democratic elections produced a majority for a grassroots political party, the National Front. The Shah had little choice but to appoint Dr. Mohammad Mossadeq, a National Front leader, as prime minister.

A reformer with years of public service, Mossadeq was European-educated and pro-American. (He led a post-war fight to deny the Soviet Union oil concessions in northern Iran.) Mossadeq considered foreign control of his country’s oil riches as a barrier democracy and independence. His government nationalized the Anglo-Iranian Oil Co., to the joy of the Iranian people and horror of corporate executives and policy-makers in Britain and the U.S.

Britain took its grievance to the UN, but got no satisfaction. So Britain imposed an embargo on Iranian oil and other economic sanctions. After two years of economic hardship, Mossadeq considered selling oil to the Soviet Union. This, and his government’s cooperation with the left-wing Tudeh ("Masses") Party, gave the new Eisenhower Administration an excuse for action. The Central Intelligence Agency received authorization to jointly organize a coup with British secret service to destroy the democracy movement and restore the power of the Shah."

 
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