there is nothing wrong or racist about being proud of being white !

Jesus was Jewish. He was called Rabbi, He wore a Jewish Prayer robe, taught in the Jewish Temple, and called those not Jewish, Gentiles. In Christ's time there were only two choices, Jew or Gentile. Being a Jew, Jesus called the Gentiles, dogs.
You'll have to rewrite the Bible to get people to believe the opposite is true.

Just like you skewing words to fit your agenda. Nationalists are all about their nations, not color. Injecting race into that definition is dishonest and despicable. e.g. Soldiers come in all colors. They are willing to lay down their lives for their nation. For their flag. They are patriotic. And those are good traits to have.
You turning those words into bad things is ridiculous. It's not working. We proved that to you in 2016, and are about to prove it to you again in 2020.
You need some new shtick...
There are two definition of racism. One is the belief in racial superiority the other is acting on that belief in a prejudicial or discriminatory manner to bring disfavor or harm to the race.

For example, one can believe that Blacks today are inferior to Whites due to centuries of mistreatment and negative discriminatory practices requiring positive discriminatory practices in order to make the Black race more equal to the White race. Also, one can believe that Blacks are innately inferior and nothing can done. Both points of view are racist. The first attempts to improve equality of the races. The second supports continuing the inequality of races.
 
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Jesus was Jewish. He was called Rabbi, He wore a Jewish Prayer robe, taught in the Jewish Temple, and called those not Jewish, Gentiles. In Christ's time there were only two choices, Jew or Gentile. Being a Jew, Jesus called the Gentiles, dogs.
You'll have to rewrite the Bible to get people to believe the opposite is true.

Just like you skewing words to fit your agenda. Nationalists are all about their nations, not color. Injecting race into that definition is dishonest and despicable. e.g. Soldiers come in all colors. They are willing to lay down their lives for their nation. For their flag. They are patriotic. And those are good traits to have.
You turning those words into bad things is ridiculous. It's not working. We proved that to you in 2016, and are about to prove it to you again in 2020.
You need some new shtick...
There are two definition of racism. One is the belief in racial superiority the other is acting on that belief in a prejudicial or discriminatory manner to bring disfavor or harm to a race.

For example, one can believe that Blacks today are inferior to Whites due to centuries of mistreatment and negative discriminatory practices requiring positive discriminatory practices in order to make the Black race more equal to the White race.
Can it be that if a person feels Superior to another, yet it being based upon wealth, class, education, status, differences in character, and etc, otherwise without it being seen as this racial superiority accusation that is given ?? What if any of the above is considered the attribute, but one throws the race card at it even if it doesn't apply ??

The bottom line is that people separate themselves on many grounds, but the race card is so effective that it can be thrown without merit in many instances, and it's a problem.
 
Jesus was Jewish. He was called Rabbi, He wore a Jewish Prayer robe, taught in the Jewish Temple, and called those not Jewish, Gentiles. In Christ's time there were only two choices, Jew or Gentile. Being a Jew, Jesus called the Gentiles, dogs.
You'll have to rewrite the Bible to get people to believe the opposite is true.

Just like you skewing words to fit your agenda. Nationalists are all about their nations, not color. Injecting race into that definition is dishonest and despicable. e.g. Soldiers come in all colors. They are willing to lay down their lives for their nation. For their flag. They are patriotic. And those are good traits to have.
You turning those words into bad things is ridiculous. It's not working. We proved that to you in 2016, and are about to prove it to you again in 2020.
You need some new shtick...
There are two definition of racism. One is the belief in racial superiority the other is acting on that belief in a prejudicial or discriminatory manner to bring disfavor or harm to a race.

For example, one can believe that Blacks today are inferior to Whites due to centuries of mistreatment and negative discriminatory practices requiring positive discriminatory practices in order to make the Black race more equal to the White race.
Can it be that if a person feels Superior to another, yet it being based upon wealth, class, education, status, differences in character, and etc, otherwise without it being seen as this racial superiority accusation that is given ?? What if any of the above is considered the attribute, but one throws the race card at it even if it doesn't apply ??

The bottom line is that people separate themselves on many grounds, but the race card is so effective that it can be thrown without merit in many instances, and it's a problem.
Is the inferiority of Blacks you speak of innate, that is to say it's in the genes or is it due to many generations of a social environment, education, and demeaning treatment by Whites? The answer to this question determines how Blacks are treated.

Conservatives tend to believe that lack achievement and criminal activity is an attribute of the race that can not be changed so providing education opportunities, job opportunities, and social welfare programs to help Blacks are unfair and a waste of money. Liberals tend to believe the opposite. IMHO, the answer lies somewhere in between. I suspect the resolution will not come for many generations until the mixing of the races provide a final solution.
 
Jesus was Jewish. He was called Rabbi, He wore a Jewish Prayer robe, taught in the Jewish Temple, and called those not Jewish, Gentiles. In Christ's time there were only two choices, Jew or Gentile. Being a Jew, Jesus called the Gentiles, dogs.
You'll have to rewrite the Bible to get people to believe the opposite is true.

Just like you skewing words to fit your agenda. Nationalists are all about their nations, not color. Injecting race into that definition is dishonest and despicable. e.g. Soldiers come in all colors. They are willing to lay down their lives for their nation. For their flag. They are patriotic. And those are good traits to have.
You turning those words into bad things is ridiculous. It's not working. We proved that to you in 2016, and are about to prove it to you again in 2020.
You need some new shtick...
There are two definition of racism. One is the belief in racial superiority the other is acting on that belief in a prejudicial or discriminatory manner to bring disfavor or harm to a race.

For example, one can believe that Blacks today are inferior to Whites due to centuries of mistreatment and negative discriminatory practices requiring positive discriminatory practices in order to make the Black race more equal to the White race.
Can it be that if a person feels Superior to another, yet it being based upon wealth, class, education, status, differences in character, and etc, otherwise without it being seen as this racial superiority accusation that is given ?? What if any of the above is considered the attribute, but one throws the race card at it even if it doesn't apply ??

The bottom line is that people separate themselves on many grounds, but the race card is so effective that it can be thrown without merit in many instances, and it's a problem.
Is the inferiority of Blacks you speak of innate, that is to say it's in the genes or is it due to many generations of a social environment, education, and demeaning treatment by Whites? The answer to this question determines how Blacks are treated.

Conservatives tend to believe that lack achievement and criminal activity is an attribute of the race that can not be changed so providing education opportunities, job opportunities, and social welfare programs to help Blacks are unfair and a waste of money. Liberals tend to believe the opposite. IMHO, the answer lies somewhere in between. I suspect the resolution will not come for many generations until the mixing of the races provide a final solution.
If you can't be an honest broker in your debate here, then there is no discussing such issues with you any longer. No one has suggested or stated that anyone is inferior to another based upon their race, but you had to attempt to imply such a thing in order to attack conservatives (your enemy), in this debate or thread. You sir are a dishonest broker, and a race baiter.
 
Jesus was Jewish. He was called Rabbi, He wore a Jewish Prayer robe, taught in the Jewish Temple, and called those not Jewish, Gentiles. In Christ's time there were only two choices, Jew or Gentile. Being a Jew, Jesus called the Gentiles, dogs.
You'll have to rewrite the Bible to get people to believe the opposite is true.

Just like you skewing words to fit your agenda. Nationalists are all about their nations, not color. Injecting race into that definition is dishonest and despicable. e.g. Soldiers come in all colors. They are willing to lay down their lives for their nation. For their flag. They are patriotic. And those are good traits to have.
You turning those words into bad things is ridiculous. It's not working. We proved that to you in 2016, and are about to prove it to you again in 2020.
You need some new shtick...
There are two definition of racism. One is the belief in racial superiority the other is acting on that belief in a prejudicial or discriminatory manner to bring disfavor or harm to a race.

For example, one can believe that Blacks today are inferior to Whites due to centuries of mistreatment and negative discriminatory practices requiring positive discriminatory practices in order to make the Black race more equal to the White race.
Can it be that if a person feels Superior to another, yet it being based upon wealth, class, education, status, differences in character, and etc, otherwise without it being seen as this racial superiority accusation that is given ?? What if any of the above is considered the attribute, but one throws the race card at it even if it doesn't apply ??

The bottom line is that people separate themselves on many grounds, but the race card is so effective that it can be thrown without merit in many instances, and it's a problem.
Is the inferiority of Blacks you speak of innate, that is to say it's in the genes or is it due to many generations of a social environment, education, and demeaning treatment by Whites? The answer to this question determines how Blacks are treated.

Conservatives tend to believe that lack achievement and criminal activity is an attribute of the race that can not be changed so providing education opportunities, job opportunities, and social welfare programs to help Blacks are unfair and a waste of money. Liberals tend to believe the opposite. IMHO, the answer lies somewhere in between. I suspect the resolution will not come for many generations until the mixing of the races provide a final solution.
If you can't be an honest broker in your debate here, then there is no discussing such issues with you any longer. No one has suggested or stated that anyone is inferior to another based upon their race, but you had to attempt to imply such a thing in order to attack conservatives (your enemy), in this debate or thread. You sir are a dishonest broker, and a race baiter.
The subject of this discussion is racism and racism is by definition is the belief in the superiority of one race over another. With the exception of a handful of white supremacist, no one claims racial superiority. It simply is not socially acceptable. However, what you do hear are racist statements such as: Blacks should not be in White neighborhood because they will turn it in a ghetto. Black men are shiftless and lazy. Black women only want to have babies so they can collect welfare. Yet people who say these things will vehemently claim they are not racist. They are just stating facts but these are not facts. All blacks, not even most, are shiftless and lazy or have babies to collect welfare. Blacks in white neighbor do not turn them into ghettos. The purpose of these statements is not to state facts but rather to disparage an entire race based on the actions of only some members of the race.
 
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Blacks should not be in White neighborhood because they will turn it in a ghetto.

But is the truth racist?
Blacks have turned the whole town next to mine into a ghetto. Stores closed, banks moved. Shots fired every night. Some hit their target, others hit 4 year olds. My bank moved but left an ATM there, but thugs would stand beside it and as soon as the money started coming out they would steal it, and your car... so it was shut down. The town is drug hub now.
 
Blacks should not be in White neighborhood because they will turn it in a ghetto.

But is the truth racist?
Blacks have turned the whole town next to mine into a ghetto. Stores closed, banks moved. Shots fired every night. Some hit their target, others hit 4 year olds. My bank moved but left an ATM there, but thugs would stand beside it and as soon as the money started coming out they would steal it, and your car... so it was shut down. The town is drug hub now.
Correlation is not cause and effect. The cause of the problem lies not in the color of the skin but social problems that grow out of poverty. If you look at the demographics of black ghettos in America, you will see that they are not all black. In fact many of them aren't even mostly black. In American the typical black ghetto in the US today is mostly multiracial, with lot of Latinos, Whites, and a smattering of Asians and Middle Easterners. With the racist attitudes of most White Americans, any poor neighborhood with a large percent of non-Whites, will be tagged as a black ghetto.
 
Blacks should not be in White neighborhood because they will turn it in a ghetto.

But is the truth racist?
Blacks have turned the whole town next to mine into a ghetto. Stores closed, banks moved. Shots fired every night. Some hit their target, others hit 4 year olds. My bank moved but left an ATM there, but thugs would stand beside it and as soon as the money started coming out they would steal it, and your car... so it was shut down. The town is drug hub now.
Correlation is not cause and effect. The cause of the problem lies not in the color of the skin but social problems that grow out of poverty. If you look at the demographics of black ghettos in America, you will see that they are not all black. In fact many of them aren't even mostly black. In American the typical black ghetto in the US today is mostly multiracial, with lot of Latinos, Whites, and a smattering of Asians and Middle Easterners. With the racist attitudes of most White Americans, any poor neighborhood with a large percent of non-Whites, will be tagged as a black ghetto.
The blame game is over.... You have a choice not to be a criminal element or a violent radical in society or either you choose to be these things (it's a free person's choice).

Poverty is used as an excuse by some people to be bad, but that's all it is "just an excuse". We all were poor before we were ok, and we were on our way in life. Of course we were all bullied at some points in our lives, but either you used it as a strengthening of your character or you used it as an excuse.

Yes there are those born with the proverbial silver spoon, but they don't amount to the majority in numbers by no stretch of the imagination.

Being poor doesn't make one bad, but it definitely can be used as an excuse to be bad by anyone choosing to be bad people in life by way of the excuse, just like a drunk uses the excuse of alcohol made me do it.

Character is what it's all about folks, and this bullcraping, race baiting, excuse making, dumb stuff must end.
 
Blacks should not be in White neighborhood because they will turn it in a ghetto.

But is the truth racist?
Blacks have turned the whole town next to mine into a ghetto. Stores closed, banks moved. Shots fired every night. Some hit their target, others hit 4 year olds. My bank moved but left an ATM there, but thugs would stand beside it and as soon as the money started coming out they would steal it, and your car... so it was shut down. The town is drug hub now.
Correlation is not cause and effect. The cause of the problem lies not in the color of the skin but social problems that grow out of poverty. If you look at the demographics of black ghettos in America, you will see that they are not all black. In fact many of them aren't even mostly black. In American the typical black ghetto in the US today is mostly multiracial, with lot of Latinos, Whites, and a smattering of Asians and Middle Easterners. With the racist attitudes of most White Americans, any poor neighborhood with a large percent of non-Whites, will be tagged as a black ghetto.
The blame game is over.... You have a choice not to be a criminal element or a violent radical in society or either you choose to be these things (it's a free person's choice).

Poverty is used as an excuse by some people to be bad, but that's all it is "just an excuse". We all were poor before we were ok, and we were on our way in life. Of course we were all bullied at some points in our lives, but either you used it as a strengthening of your character or you used it as an excuse.

Yes there are those born with the proverbial silver spoon, but they don't amount to the majority in numbers by no stretch of the imagination.

Being poor doesn't make one bad, but it definitely can be used as an excuse to be bad by anyone choosing to be bad people in life by way of the excuse, just like a drunk uses the excuse of alcohol made me do it.

Character is what it's all about folks, and this bullcraping, race baiting, excuse making, dumb stuff must end.
You're right being born in poverty does not make you bad but it makes it a lot harder to be good. There are many stories of people rising out of poverty to accomplish great things. Unfortunately, that's rare. A child in a single parent home in a drug infested crime-ridden neighborhood is not likely to beat odds.
 
Blacks should not be in White neighborhood because they will turn it in a ghetto.

But is the truth racist?
Blacks have turned the whole town next to mine into a ghetto. Stores closed, banks moved. Shots fired every night. Some hit their target, others hit 4 year olds. My bank moved but left an ATM there, but thugs would stand beside it and as soon as the money started coming out they would steal it, and your car... so it was shut down. The town is drug hub now.
Correlation is not cause and effect. The cause of the problem lies not in the color of the skin but social problems that grow out of poverty. If you look at the demographics of black ghettos in America, you will see that they are not all black. In fact many of them aren't even mostly black. In American the typical black ghetto in the US today is mostly multiracial, with lot of Latinos, Whites, and a smattering of Asians and Middle Easterners. With the racist attitudes of most White Americans, any poor neighborhood with a large percent of non-Whites, will be tagged as a black ghetto.
The blame game is over.... You have a choice not to be a criminal element or a violent radical in society or either you choose to be these things (it's a free person's choice).

Poverty is used as an excuse by some people to be bad, but that's all it is "just an excuse". We all were poor before we were ok, and we were on our way in life. Of course we were all bullied at some points in our lives, but either you used it as a strengthening of your character or you used it as an excuse.

Yes there are those born with the proverbial silver spoon, but they don't amount to the majority in numbers by no stretch of the imagination.

Being poor doesn't make one bad, but it definitely can be used as an excuse to be bad by anyone choosing to be bad people in life by way of the excuse, just like a drunk uses the excuse of alcohol made me do it.

Character is what it's all about folks, and this bullcraping, race baiting, excuse making, dumb stuff must end.
You're right being born in poverty does not make you bad but it makes it a lot harder to be good. There are many stories of people rising out of poverty to accomplish great things. Unfortunately, that's rare. A child in a single parent home in a drug infested crime-ridden neighborhood is not likely to beat odds.
Bullcrap.... This flies in the face of every gain ever made by anyone who was not only in minimal amounts of poverty growing up, but it also takes away the gains of hundreds of thousands of American's throughout this nation who were in extreme poverty, but instead chose to get the heck out of that poverty by pulling themselves up by their own bootstraps. Then they became role models to millions of other American's that said to themselves that we don't have to let this hold us down, and that yes we can do something about it. First and foremost becoming bad due to poverty is used as an excuse to be bad by way of the excuse. Nothing more, and nothing less. This ain't rocket science by no stretch of the imagination. Choices are made, and prices are paid.
 
Blacks should not be in White neighborhood because they will turn it in a ghetto.

But is the truth racist?
Blacks have turned the whole town next to mine into a ghetto. Stores closed, banks moved. Shots fired every night. Some hit their target, others hit 4 year olds. My bank moved but left an ATM there, but thugs would stand beside it and as soon as the money started coming out they would steal it, and your car... so it was shut down. The town is drug hub now.
Correlation is not cause and effect. The cause of the problem lies not in the color of the skin but social problems that grow out of poverty. If you look at the demographics of black ghettos in America, you will see that they are not all black. In fact many of them aren't even mostly black. In American the typical black ghetto in the US today is mostly multiracial, with lot of Latinos, Whites, and a smattering of Asians and Middle Easterners. With the racist attitudes of most White Americans, any poor neighborhood with a large percent of non-Whites, will be tagged as a black ghetto.
The blame game is over.... You have a choice not to be a criminal element or a violent radical in society or either you choose to be these things (it's a free person's choice).

Poverty is used as an excuse by some people to be bad, but that's all it is "just an excuse". We all were poor before we were ok, and we were on our way in life. Of course we were all bullied at some points in our lives, but either you used it as a strengthening of your character or you used it as an excuse.

Yes there are those born with the proverbial silver spoon, but they don't amount to the majority in numbers by no stretch of the imagination.

Being poor doesn't make one bad, but it definitely can be used as an excuse to be bad by anyone choosing to be bad people in life by way of the excuse, just like a drunk uses the excuse of alcohol made me do it.

Character is what it's all about folks, and this bullcraping, race baiting, excuse making, dumb stuff must end.
You're right being born in poverty does not make you bad but it makes it a lot harder to be good. There are many stories of people rising out of poverty to accomplish great things. Unfortunately, that's rare. A child in a single parent home in a drug infested crime-ridden neighborhood is not likely to beat odds.
Bullcrap.... This flies in the face of every gain ever made by anyone who was not only in minimal amounts of poverty growing up, but it also takes away the gains of hundreds of thousands of American's throughout this nation who were in extreme poverty, but instead chose to get the heck out of that poverty by pulling themselves up by their own bootstraps. Then they became role models to millions of other American's that said to themselves that we don't have to let this hold us down, and that yes we can do something about it. First and foremost becoming bad due to poverty is used as an excuse to be bad by way of the excuse. Nothing more, and nothing less. This ain't rocket science by no stretch of the imagination. Choices are made, and prices are paid.
Boys born into households in the bottom 10% of earners are 20 times more likely to be in prison by their early 30s than children born into the top 10%. Kids whose families are in the bottom 15% are 5 times more likely serve time in prisons for drug offenses than those of medium income families. There are similar statistics for teen pregnancy, high school drop outs, broken homes, addiction, and suicide. Just about every serious social problem has it's roots in poverty.

Poverty is not the direct cause of our social problems. It just creates an and environment in which raising kids to be responsible members of the community is very difficult and at times impossible. Parents who are raised in this environment are not likely to have the skills to do a decent job of raising their kids. They tend to pass along to their kids the same hopelessness and despair they feel. Their kids lack of self esteem and encouragement of parents dooms most them in school and they either become victims or the oppressors in the neighborhood. And so it goes generation after generation.
 
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But is the truth racist?
Blacks have turned the whole town next to mine into a ghetto. Stores closed, banks moved. Shots fired every night. Some hit their target, others hit 4 year olds. My bank moved but left an ATM there, but thugs would stand beside it and as soon as the money started coming out they would steal it, and your car... so it was shut down. The town is drug hub now.
Correlation is not cause and effect. The cause of the problem lies not in the color of the skin but social problems that grow out of poverty. If you look at the demographics of black ghettos in America, you will see that they are not all black. In fact many of them aren't even mostly black. In American the typical black ghetto in the US today is mostly multiracial, with lot of Latinos, Whites, and a smattering of Asians and Middle Easterners. With the racist attitudes of most White Americans, any poor neighborhood with a large percent of non-Whites, will be tagged as a black ghetto.
The blame game is over.... You have a choice not to be a criminal element or a violent radical in society or either you choose to be these things (it's a free person's choice).

Poverty is used as an excuse by some people to be bad, but that's all it is "just an excuse". We all were poor before we were ok, and we were on our way in life. Of course we were all bullied at some points in our lives, but either you used it as a strengthening of your character or you used it as an excuse.

Yes there are those born with the proverbial silver spoon, but they don't amount to the majority in numbers by no stretch of the imagination.

Being poor doesn't make one bad, but it definitely can be used as an excuse to be bad by anyone choosing to be bad people in life by way of the excuse, just like a drunk uses the excuse of alcohol made me do it.

Character is what it's all about folks, and this bullcraping, race baiting, excuse making, dumb stuff must end.
You're right being born in poverty does not make you bad but it makes it a lot harder to be good. There are many stories of people rising out of poverty to accomplish great things. Unfortunately, that's rare. A child in a single parent home in a drug infested crime-ridden neighborhood is not likely to beat odds.
Bullcrap.... This flies in the face of every gain ever made by anyone who was not only in minimal amounts of poverty growing up, but it also takes away the gains of hundreds of thousands of American's throughout this nation who were in extreme poverty, but instead chose to get the heck out of that poverty by pulling themselves up by their own bootstraps. Then they became role models to millions of other American's that said to themselves that we don't have to let this hold us down, and that yes we can do something about it. First and foremost becoming bad due to poverty is used as an excuse to be bad by way of the excuse. Nothing more, and nothing less. This ain't rocket science by no stretch of the imagination. Choices are made, and prices are paid.
Boys born into households in the bottom 10% of earners are 20 times more likely to be in prison by their early 30s than children born into the top 10%. Kids whose families are in the bottom 15% are 5 times more likely serve time in prisons for drug offenses than those of medium income families. There are similar statistics for teen pregnancy, high school drop outs, broken homes, addiction, and suicide. Just about every serious social problem has it's roots in poverty.

Poverty is not the direct cause of our social problems. It just creates an and environment in which raising kids to be responsible members of the community is very difficult and at times impossible. Parents who are raised in this environment are not likely to have the skills to do a decent job of raising their kids. They tend to pass along to their kids the same hopelessness and despair they feel. Their kids lack of self esteem and encouragement of parents dooms most them in school and they either become victims or the oppressors in the neighborhood. And so it goes generation after generation.
Absolute bullcrap.... Being a good person of good character is totally FREE. It cost nothing to sit by the oak tree all day, and to visit good friends, and to help others in need if they will allow it. The government has taken care of so many over the years, that how dare the people blame anyone in this country for their being bad in life. It's an excuse.

Poor senior adults live in poverty after living full lives of working and being good people, and they (the ones in poverty) have way to much time on their hands doing nothing but chilling out in retirement all day, but does this idle time turn them into criminals, thugs, radicals, extremist etc ?? Nope.

Babies and children are born innocent and good, and as they grow older they are exposed to many things, and then they make choices based upon their character and personalities that they have. Some will remain good no matter how bad things were be it either to them or around them, and then some will become bad or gravitate towards being bad because it appeals to them and their personalities or character created in life.
 
Correlation is not cause and effect. The cause of the problem lies not in the color of the skin but social problems that grow out of poverty. If you look at the demographics of black ghettos in America, you will see that they are not all black. In fact many of them aren't even mostly black. In American the typical black ghetto in the US today is mostly multiracial, with lot of Latinos, Whites, and a smattering of Asians and Middle Easterners. With the racist attitudes of most White Americans, any poor neighborhood with a large percent of non-Whites, will be tagged as a black ghetto.
The blame game is over.... You have a choice not to be a criminal element or a violent radical in society or either you choose to be these things (it's a free person's choice).

Poverty is used as an excuse by some people to be bad, but that's all it is "just an excuse". We all were poor before we were ok, and we were on our way in life. Of course we were all bullied at some points in our lives, but either you used it as a strengthening of your character or you used it as an excuse.

Yes there are those born with the proverbial silver spoon, but they don't amount to the majority in numbers by no stretch of the imagination.

Being poor doesn't make one bad, but it definitely can be used as an excuse to be bad by anyone choosing to be bad people in life by way of the excuse, just like a drunk uses the excuse of alcohol made me do it.

Character is what it's all about folks, and this bullcraping, race baiting, excuse making, dumb stuff must end.
You're right being born in poverty does not make you bad but it makes it a lot harder to be good. There are many stories of people rising out of poverty to accomplish great things. Unfortunately, that's rare. A child in a single parent home in a drug infested crime-ridden neighborhood is not likely to beat odds.
Bullcrap.... This flies in the face of every gain ever made by anyone who was not only in minimal amounts of poverty growing up, but it also takes away the gains of hundreds of thousands of American's throughout this nation who were in extreme poverty, but instead chose to get the heck out of that poverty by pulling themselves up by their own bootstraps. Then they became role models to millions of other American's that said to themselves that we don't have to let this hold us down, and that yes we can do something about it. First and foremost becoming bad due to poverty is used as an excuse to be bad by way of the excuse. Nothing more, and nothing less. This ain't rocket science by no stretch of the imagination. Choices are made, and prices are paid.
Boys born into households in the bottom 10% of earners are 20 times more likely to be in prison by their early 30s than children born into the top 10%. Kids whose families are in the bottom 15% are 5 times more likely serve time in prisons for drug offenses than those of medium income families. There are similar statistics for teen pregnancy, high school drop outs, broken homes, addiction, and suicide. Just about every serious social problem has it's roots in poverty.

Poverty is not the direct cause of our social problems. It just creates an and environment in which raising kids to be responsible members of the community is very difficult and at times impossible. Parents who are raised in this environment are not likely to have the skills to do a decent job of raising their kids. They tend to pass along to their kids the same hopelessness and despair they feel. Their kids lack of self esteem and encouragement of parents dooms most them in school and they either become victims or the oppressors in the neighborhood. And so it goes generation after generation.
Absolute bullcrap.... Being a good person of good character is totally FREE. It cost nothing to sit by the oak tree all day, and to visit good friends, and to help others in need if they will allow it. The government has taken care of so many over the years, that how dare the people blame anyone in this country for their being bad in life. It's an excuse.

Poor senior adults live in poverty after living full lives of working and being good people, and they (the ones in poverty) have way to much time on their hands doing nothing but chilling out in retirement all day, but does this idle time turn them into criminals, thugs, radicals, extremist etc ?? Nope.

Babies and children are born innocent and good, and as they grow older they are exposed to many things, and then they make choices based upon their character and personalities that they have. Some will remain good no matter how bad things were be it either to them or around them, and then some will become bad or gravitate towards being bad because it appeals to them and their personalities or character created in life.
What you don't seem to realize is character and personality is largely determined by age 7. "As the twig is bent, so grows the tree". Children raised in poverty in a crime ridden neighborhood by parents who see themselves as failures in life, unable to provide for their kids pass along their hopelessness to their kids. The lesson they bring to their kids is that of failure. Without self esteem and encouragement by parents, kids rarely succeed.
 
The blame game is over.... You have a choice not to be a criminal element or a violent radical in society or either you choose to be these things (it's a free person's choice).

Poverty is used as an excuse by some people to be bad, but that's all it is "just an excuse". We all were poor before we were ok, and we were on our way in life. Of course we were all bullied at some points in our lives, but either you used it as a strengthening of your character or you used it as an excuse.

Yes there are those born with the proverbial silver spoon, but they don't amount to the majority in numbers by no stretch of the imagination.

Being poor doesn't make one bad, but it definitely can be used as an excuse to be bad by anyone choosing to be bad people in life by way of the excuse, just like a drunk uses the excuse of alcohol made me do it.

Character is what it's all about folks, and this bullcraping, race baiting, excuse making, dumb stuff must end.
You're right being born in poverty does not make you bad but it makes it a lot harder to be good. There are many stories of people rising out of poverty to accomplish great things. Unfortunately, that's rare. A child in a single parent home in a drug infested crime-ridden neighborhood is not likely to beat odds.
Bullcrap.... This flies in the face of every gain ever made by anyone who was not only in minimal amounts of poverty growing up, but it also takes away the gains of hundreds of thousands of American's throughout this nation who were in extreme poverty, but instead chose to get the heck out of that poverty by pulling themselves up by their own bootstraps. Then they became role models to millions of other American's that said to themselves that we don't have to let this hold us down, and that yes we can do something about it. First and foremost becoming bad due to poverty is used as an excuse to be bad by way of the excuse. Nothing more, and nothing less. This ain't rocket science by no stretch of the imagination. Choices are made, and prices are paid.
Boys born into households in the bottom 10% of earners are 20 times more likely to be in prison by their early 30s than children born into the top 10%. Kids whose families are in the bottom 15% are 5 times more likely serve time in prisons for drug offenses than those of medium income families. There are similar statistics for teen pregnancy, high school drop outs, broken homes, addiction, and suicide. Just about every serious social problem has it's roots in poverty.

Poverty is not the direct cause of our social problems. It just creates an and environment in which raising kids to be responsible members of the community is very difficult and at times impossible. Parents who are raised in this environment are not likely to have the skills to do a decent job of raising their kids. They tend to pass along to their kids the same hopelessness and despair they feel. Their kids lack of self esteem and encouragement of parents dooms most them in school and they either become victims or the oppressors in the neighborhood. And so it goes generation after generation.
Absolute bullcrap.... Being a good person of good character is totally FREE. It cost nothing to sit by the oak tree all day, and to visit good friends, and to help others in need if they will allow it. The government has taken care of so many over the years, that how dare the people blame anyone in this country for their being bad in life. It's an excuse.

Poor senior adults live in poverty after living full lives of working and being good people, and they (the ones in poverty) have way to much time on their hands doing nothing but chilling out in retirement all day, but does this idle time turn them into criminals, thugs, radicals, extremist etc ?? Nope.

Babies and children are born innocent and good, and as they grow older they are exposed to many things, and then they make choices based upon their character and personalities that they have. Some will remain good no matter how bad things were be it either to them or around them, and then some will become bad or gravitate towards being bad because it appeals to them and their personalities or character created in life.
What you don't seem to realize is character and personality is largely determined by age 7. "As the twig is bent, so grows the tree". Children raised in poverty in a crime ridden neighborhood by parents who see themselves as failures in life, unable to provide for their kids pass along their hopelessness to their kids. The lesson they bring to their kids is that of failure. Without self esteem and encouragement by parents, kids rarely succeed.
There should be penalties for parents who fail at their responsibilities to their children.

Using their children by saying "hey I just ended up with a bad child, otherwise I guess she or he was just born that way". Bullcrap.

Maybe some sort of fines and penalties should go towards bad parenting ??? Maybe by prosecuting parents would it then send a valuable message down the line a ways.

Putting Christianity back in our mainstream society would go along ways into restoring order in a society. The truth and people know it, but in an immoral desensitized society, uhhh I'm not so sure that people can go back anymore.
 

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