There IS NO consensus

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    Of 528 total papers on climate change, only 38 (7%) gave an explicit endorsement of the consensus. If one considers "implicit" endorsement (accepting the consensus without explicit statement), the figure rises to 45%. However, while only 32 papers (6%) reject the consensus outright, the largest category (48%) are neutral papers, refusing to either accept or reject the hypothesis. :eusa_whistle:

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    all you've done is post a blog, from a senator's website. A senator who is well known for promoting anti-global warming crackpot stuff.

    There's no link to the actual study, and the study hasn't even yet been published in a credible peer-reviewed journal.
     
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    Yeah...we know all that....its mentioned in the article...

    "Though the survey has not yet been released, the results have been submitted to the journal Energy and Environment, and science blog DailyTech has obtained a pre-publication copy which states"...etc.

    So after its release, will the results change?
     
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    Right, all were hearing is some allegations from someone's blog.

    And I just googled the magazine "Energy and Environment". Its not a top tier, and not even credible, peer reviewed scientific journal. Its a magazine run by a dude who's a global warming skeptic, and who himself has no formal training in climate science.
     
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    Oh, you mean just like allegations that global warming is man-made, or man can do something to stop it?

    As far as his source goes, what do YOU have? Some pro, let's overreact and implement changes cuz it's all man's fault knucklehead?
     
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    According to the source posted...the source he has is 45% of ALL scientists who publish information on this topic...
     
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    "As far as his source goes, what do YOU have?"

    Here ya go:

     
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    First off, I believe "all the world leaders" and "President Bush" about as much as I would Ted Bundy where this topic is concerned. Since the PC crowd has assumed the mantle of pushing man-made climate change, these politicians are saying what they think everyone wants to hear.

    I don't doubt global climate change a bit. I do however disagree with reacting to a problem before identifying what specifically caused it.

    Sure, man probably does have some impact on the climate. The climate change itself can however be cyclical, and nothing we can do about it. All I see is a bunch of guesswork and posturing with no concrete evidence.
     
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    The globe has always been in a state of change. They act like that's something new. That it was stable and constant up until man. What a bunch of hogwash.
     
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    Just this morning I was listening to a radio report which featured the Foreign Ministers of Germany and Norway heading up into Norway's north, Arctic Circle area. They were going to see the ice receding and were discussing, among other things, the oil and mineral deposits that were being made available by the melting ice.

    It's winter here. Yesterday it was 30.4c.

    No human-influenced climate change, of course not. :cuckoo:

    Luckily some politicians who have a clue have recognised it and are doing somthing about it other than shoving their heads up their arses and declaring everything to be dark. The naysayers are in the minority now. Try coming up with denialist bullshit when you live in a country where the drought is now so severe that the big political issue at all levels is water.
     

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