There have been 273 mass shootings in the US so far in 2017 — here's the full list

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  1. bripat9643
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    The age of the article doesn't matter because it shows the that the group coming up with your numbers is using a bogus methodology. You can't credibly dispute the point, so instead you harp on the date.

    In short, you're a douche bag.
     
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    The list is light on details.
     
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    Yeah, unbelievable UNTIL you start looking them up. At random I picked a few. Most read something like this. --- (The april 16th Columbus Ohio event in your OP link)

    Police identify victims after club shooting in north Columbus

    Here's the take-away.. We need GANG control. Not a lot of new gun laws.. Multiple guns involved in that shooting above. All people below 30 yrs. NOT A ONE of those shooters had a conceal carry permit. I'd stake my LIFE on that. Guns were probably bought ON THE STREET.

    Whenever law enforcement tries to get these deadly weapons out of the community with STOP/FRISK or targeted stops for suspected gang members -- the left goes beserk. I think we should be DEMANDING their plan for taking these killers/shooters out of circulation.

    We need to allow the police to DISARM these wannabee thugs. THAT'S how you get this "gun violence" stopped.
     
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    What's your plan for ENFORCING "Concealed Carry" in the hoods? C'mon you whiners --- step up and give us the plan..
     
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    Boy you are dumber that a box of rocks. One more time the date of the article doesn't matter. The editor explains why other numbers are so much higher because they are based on faulty methodology. AKA the numbers you put up are bullshit. Because they are not based on the FBI standards.

    You can't take a domestic dispute that involves guns and turn a domestic into a mass shooting. You can't take a gang related incident and turn it into a mass shooting.

    Their figures are bogus and based on the lie that they conceived as the "new definition" of mass shootings.
     
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    Oh look, a homophobic leftist.
     
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    Nobody pays much attention to the definitions and details. So it's easy to get outraged. The source SYFTE used is shootings of all kinds. With a definition of "mass shooting" being something like -- at least 1 killed OR 4 or more injured. It's as valid as any other definition that you wanna make.

    But the biggest overlooked factor here is MOTIVE. You wanna discuss mass casualty events?? Categorize them by motive. Because THAT'S why and how it happened.

    domestic
    criminal
    gang
    political
    workplace
    hate
    etc.... There's WHY they happened. And sometimes HOW they happened.
     
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    When congress would not act after Sandy Hook, I knew they never would. Its what we get for turning over the country to the gun lobby aka the NRA.

    You can look up on line how much the NRA is bribing your congress rats. My Repub senator got a nice little bonus of almost $1.5 million. My Dem senator got zip.

    Yes, it IS sad.
     
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    The agenda is to push the inflated numbers to infuriate enough people to grab law abiding citizens guns. Check this out.

    "The Gun Violence Archive’s definition of “mass shooting,” used by the NYT, is a shooting that “involves four or more people injured or killed in a single event at the same time and location.”

    The archive lumps in events like Sunday night’s mass murder — which left at least 58 people dead and 500 others wounded — with shootings that left zero people dead, like a Philadelphia bar fight in March that resulted in four people being wounded after a man pulled out a gun and started shooting."

    Note no one uses the accurate data at the FBI...

    "There were 40 active shooter situations accounting for 92 total deaths in 2014 and 2015, according to an FBI study released in 2016. The Gun Violence Archive claims there were 607 “mass shootings” over that same time period."

    Now there's one hell of a difference there in totals eh?

    NYT Uses Inflated Mass Shooting Numbers For Dramatic Editorial
     
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    Did you actually look at each of them? Did you notice that MOST of them are in Detroit, Philly, L.A. and Chicago? How many threads have you created that rail against inner city gangs? I already know the answer is 0, so spare us your fake outrage.
     
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