There Bill Clinton goes again

[drsmith1072]

More here: BLANKLEY: There Bill Clinton goes again - Washington Times

So history comes full circle and now the party that resulted from a backlash of this kind of slander falls prey to using the same kind of smear tactic.

Bill Clinton has been using this tactic since the OK City bombing.

But we have had a year of the tea party and the only violence has come from the left. Whether it's beating up black men handing out "don't tread on me" flags or the disputed beating of a couple two weeks ago (still debate on whether it was political or not).

The point is, there has been NO violence from the tea party nor will there be. It's not about violence. It's about beliving in the Constitutional political process to return this country to it's Constitutional limits.

They see the Obama government as an out of control attempt to do away with the Constitutional limits on government and they want to put a stop to it.

The fact that all the left can answer with is smears, is solid evidence of on which side the truth lies.

The side with the truth doesn't need smears, and obviously that's all Obama's side has.

UH nice spin (as usual) but did you happen to forget the guy who flew a plane into a building that housed IRS offices a while back over his complaints about taxes and government? Sounds like a tea party kind of guy to me.

BTW since you started thsi thread with nothing but a smear attempt does that mean that you are not on the side with the truth?? LOL

Uh nice spin (as usual) but did you happen to forget the guy who flew a plane into a building that housed IRS offices a while back over his complaints about Bush and health care reform while spouting the Socialist's creed? Oh, he was also a registered Democrat. Sounds like an Obama supporter to me.

Rick

Nice spin however, based on what I have read his opinion seems in line with the tea party so care to provide some proof of your claims??

 

[drsmith1072]

2003 invasion of Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Once again, I stand corrected, you really are this stupid. And you don't just get your information from Media Matters, there's also wikipedia. Do you realize how much information on wiki is incorrect? I wouldn't try winning too many arguments using wiki as a source if I were you. Oh yeah, I forgot who I was talking to, you use wiki any chance you get.

That wiki link couldn't even get it's own story straight. First they say there was no U.N. resolution, then they say there was. Well, which is it?

Rick

coalition of the willing proves you wrong and instead of being hoenst and admitting that FACT you lash out and attack. How typical.

 

[teapartysamurai]

Why did she attend a Clinton fundraiser three weeks after he supposedly raped her??????



Juanita Broaddrick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

oh and the other thing is the premise that this thread was began on.

The side with the truth doesn't need smears

and yet here they are trying to smear clinton in an attempt to discredit him with accusation that even a full and complete investigation by starr couldn't prove.

Smear Clinton????????

There is a lot more evidence against Clinton for being a sexual harrasser et al, than there is for his charges of violence from the tea parties.

All this whine boils down to, is it's only okay to accuse conservatives. No fair pointing out the hypocrisy of those doing the accusations.

And that would be Bill horndog Clinton who couldn't see fit to keep it in his pants while presiding over the free world.

 

[CMike]

your disagreement with TM is between the two of you. but no, i think bush used cherry-picked, not actual intel to get us into Iraq. I also think he should have listened to his state department about what would happen if he deposed saddam. i do not think he 'relied on intel' at all... i think they shaped the 'intel' to what they wanted to do. does it rise to the level of a lie? i don't know...

So did the UN, our Allies and Democrats also Cherry pick? why do you care that Bush did but not them?

Correct me if I am wrong but didn't W and britain have to form the coalition of the willing to invade iraq becuase the UN didn't support the INVASION??

Democrats in congress relied on info they were given.

We sent powell to spoon feed trumped up and cherry picked info to the UN and they chose not to support the invasion.

So care to rephrase your spin or will you just admit that you were WRONG?

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." S
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" Rep.
- Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

 

[teapartysamurai]

So did the UN, our Allies and Democrats also Cherry pick? why do you care that Bush did but not them?

Correct me if I am wrong but didn't W and britain have to form the coalition of the willing to invade iraq becuase the UN didn't support the INVASION??

Democrats in congress relied on info they were given.

We sent powell to spoon feed trumped up and cherry picked info to the UN and they chose not to support the invasion.

So care to rephrase your spin or will you just admit that you were WRONG?

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." S
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" Rep.
- Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

Now now now!

No fair reminding liberals that they are lying their teeth out about Bush cherry picking the evidence.

 

[hboats]

UH nice spin (as usual) but did you happen to forget the guy who flew a plane into a building that housed IRS offices a while back over his complaints about taxes and government? Sounds like a tea party kind of guy to me.

BTW since you started thsi thread with nothing but a smear attempt does that mean that you are not on the side with the truth?? LOL

Uh nice spin (as usual) but did you happen to forget the guy who flew a plane into a building that housed IRS offices a while back over his complaints about Bush and health care reform while spouting the Socialist's creed? Oh, he was also a registered Democrat. Sounds like an Obama supporter to me.

Rick

Nice spin however, based on what I have read his opinion seems in line with the tea party so care to provide some proof of your claims??

So, you didn't read his creed that was online before he flew his plane into the building? Oh, I get it, you're like Dante who takes only what he wants to out of what this whack job wrote. Fact of the matter is, he wrote that he hated Bush, and that he wanted government run health care and the socialist creed was at the bottom of his rant. He was also a registered Democrat.

Yes, he was upset over taxes, but putting EVERYTHING that he wrote together and not cherry picking what you want to pull out to try to make one group or another look bad, he was just a confused whack job who took his frustrations out in a stupid way.

I don't honestly think he was a Democrat or Republican or Tea Party supporter, unlike you, I can look at the whole picture and say that this was one messed up human being who probably didn't even know what he was willing to put his life on the line for. I don't have to make it about politics.

What I was doing is showing how your idiotic post could just as easily be turned around to support a differing viewpoint, no less idiotic than yours, but it still fits non the less.

Rick

 

[CMike]

Correct me if I am wrong but didn't W and britain have to form the coalition of the willing to invade iraq becuase the UN didn't support the INVASION??

Democrats in congress relied on info they were given.

We sent powell to spoon feed trumped up and cherry picked info to the UN and they chose not to support the invasion.

So care to rephrase your spin or will you just admit that you were WRONG?

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." S
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" Rep.
- Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

Now now now!

No fair reminding liberals that they are lying their teeth out about Bush cherry picking the evidence.

Lefties have very selective memory.

 

[bodecea]

Correct me if I am wrong but didn't W and britain have to form the coalition of the willing to invade iraq becuase the UN didn't support the INVASION??

Democrats in congress relied on info they were given.

We sent powell to spoon feed trumped up and cherry picked info to the UN and they chose not to support the invasion.

So care to rephrase your spin or will you just admit that you were WRONG?

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." S
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" Rep.
- Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

Now now now!

No fair reminding liberals that they are lying their teeth out about Bush cherry picking the evidence.

Cherry pick those WMDs we found.....what? Wait.

 

[drsmith1072]

Here is another Bill Clinton victim of him being a sexual predator.

Sex Assault Accuser Lobs Fresh Charges At Clinton Duo - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum - FOXNews.com

"One of the other reasons that I wrote the book is that ... I would hope that women especially would read this story because statistics show that one in three women today have to deal with sexual harassment and that's way too many women in this world today in the year 2007," Willey told FOX News on Thursday.

"I'm speaking for women out there who were afraid to come and talk and speak up," Willey said.

In a broad array of charges, Willey's latest claim is that someone tried over Labor Day to steal from her house the manuscript for her new book, "Target: Caught in the Crosshairs of Bill and Hillary Clinton."

In the book, she rehashes several charges first made at the end of the Clinton administration — including that her cat Bullseye went missing and on the day she was supposed to testify for another Clinton accuser, Paula Jones, a would-be jogger approached her and cryptically suggested that Bullseye was dead. Jones, who sued the president for sexual harassment, received an out of court settlement from Clinton for $875,000 in 1998. In the settlement, he never admitted to any improprieties.


edited: FOR BREAKING COPYRIGHT POLICY

Care

Wiley, another conservative propped up hack whose complaints amounted to NOTHING. She was allegedly harrassed after goin g to clinton as a volunteer to ask him for a job, he said no. She came back to the same man that allegedly harrassed her previously and asked him AGAIN and AGAIN he said NO and later she tried to jump on the band wagon of the other cons propped up hacks and tried to claim that she was harrassed once and then went back for more. LOL

Didn't cons try to give her a talk radio program that was cancelled shortly after it began?? What kind of quid pro quo was that??

Women are only victims if they go against conservatives or just white men like the Duke Lacrosse players.

Go against a horndog like Bill Clinton and you have to be lying!

This is how it works in the liberal world.

Really?? where did I say any of that?? oh you mean I didn't say any of that and your post is nothing more that you usual dishoensty from YOU.

Thanks for the spin let me know when you want to actually debate anything that I have actually said.

 

[drsmith1072]

Clinton lied under oath. He was accused of sexually harrassing Paula Jones.

Paula Jones had a legal right to truthful testimony. Clinton lied under oath, which is a felony.

actually clinton only made false statements under oath, his claim concerning lewinsky had no bearing on whether he harrassed jones or not. making false statements is a misdemeanor

perjury requires that your lie is pertinent to the case. if it is not then the lie is not considered perjury and is not a felony.

In law, act or crime of knowingly making a false statement while under oath. The statement must be material to the issue of inquiry. Perjuries that have the effect of obstructing the adjudication of a case may be given increased punishment for that reason. A person who makes a false statement and later corrects it is usually not considered to have committed perjury.

It did have bearing, since Paula Jones accused him of sexual harassment, and him shtupping a young intern in the WH, could play a part in determining the grand jury members decision. Felony.

Nice spin but clinton's affair with lewinsky had NO bearing on whether he harrassed jones or not.

They are two seperate events that have nothing to do with each other. The fact that you believe it COULD sway the opinions of a jury is not proof that it was pertinent to the case being tried.

So honestly how did something that happened YEARS after the event in question have bearing on the event?? Care to explain??

 

[drsmith1072]

Why did she attend a Clinton fundraiser three weeks after he supposedly raped her??????



Juanita Broaddrick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

oh and the other thing is the premise that this thread was began on.

The side with the truth doesn't need smears

and yet here they are trying to smear clinton in an attempt to discredit him with accusation that even a full and complete investigation by starr couldn't prove.

Smear Clinton????????

There is a lot more evidence against Clinton for being a sexual harrasser et al, than there is for his charges of violence from the tea parties.

All this whine boils down to, is it's only okay to accuse conservatives. No fair pointing out the hypocrisy of those doing the accusations.

And that would be Bill horndog Clinton who couldn't see fit to keep it in his pants while presiding over the free world.

WOW more spin. Is that all you have to offer?? You are trying to smear clinton because he came out and spoke and you don't like what he had to say. Your own smears show that the truth is not on your side and that is YOUR own standard. YOU set the standard so please keep the whining to a minimum when YOUR own standard is applied to YOUR statements.

 

[CMike]

actually clinton only made false statements under oath, his claim concerning lewinsky had no bearing on whether he harrassed jones or not. making false statements is a misdemeanor

perjury requires that your lie is pertinent to the case. if it is not then the lie is not considered perjury and is not a felony.

It did have bearing, since Paula Jones accused him of sexual harassment, and him shtupping a young intern in the WH, could play a part in determining the grand jury members decision. Felony.

Nice spin but clinton's affair with lewinsky had NO bearing on whether he harrassed jones or not.

They are two seperate events that have nothing to do with each other. The fact that you believe it COULD sway the opinions of a jury is not proof that it was pertinent to the case being tried.

So honestly how did something that happened YEARS after the event in question have bearing on the event?? Care to explain??

That was up for the grand jury to decide, not you.

 

[drsmith1072]

So did the UN, our Allies and Democrats also Cherry pick? why do you care that Bush did but not them?

Correct me if I am wrong but didn't W and britain have to form the coalition of the willing to invade iraq becuase the UN didn't support the INVASION??

Democrats in congress relied on info they were given.

We sent powell to spoon feed trumped up and cherry picked info to the UN and they chose not to support the invasion.

So care to rephrase your spin or will you just admit that you were WRONG?

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." S
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" Rep.
- Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

Nice avoidance but what does that have to do with the FACT that YOU were either LYING about the UN or INGORANT of the fact that the UN did not support the invasion of iraq and that W had to form the coalition of the willing??

Furthermore, how does posting quotes of what righties at that time called lies, as you try to use what righties called LIES in a desperate and dishonest attempt to defend W and his claims?? LOL If they were lies back when the dems made those statements as righties tried to claim then how does that help your attempt to defend W?? LOL

 

[drsmith1072]

Correct me if I am wrong but didn't W and britain have to form the coalition of the willing to invade iraq becuase the UN didn't support the INVASION??

Democrats in congress relied on info they were given.

We sent powell to spoon feed trumped up and cherry picked info to the UN and they chose not to support the invasion.

So care to rephrase your spin or will you just admit that you were WRONG?

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." S
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" Rep.
- Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

Now now now!

No fair reminding liberals that they are lying their teeth out about Bush cherry picking the evidence.

LOL so you post quotes taken from democrats in an attempt to prove W didn't cherry pick when one has NOTHING to do with the other?? Care to explain how that works?? LOL

Not very bright are you??

 

[drsmith1072]

Uh nice spin (as usual) but did you happen to forget the guy who flew a plane into a building that housed IRS offices a while back over his complaints about Bush and health care reform while spouting the Socialist's creed? Oh, he was also a registered Democrat. Sounds like an Obama supporter to me.

Rick

Nice spin however, based on what I have read his opinion seems in line with the tea party so care to provide some proof of your claims??

So, you didn't read his creed that was online before he flew his plane into the building? Oh, I get it, you're like Dante who takes only what he wants to out of what this whack job wrote. Fact of the matter is, he wrote that he hated Bush, and that he wanted government run health care and the socialist creed was at the bottom of his rant. He was also a registered Democrat.

Yes, he was upset over taxes, but putting EVERYTHING that he wrote together and not cherry picking what you want to pull out to try to make one group or another look bad, he was just a confused whack job who took his frustrations out in a stupid way.

I don't honestly think he was a Democrat or Republican or Tea Party supporter, unlike you, I can look at the whole picture and say that this was one messed up human being who probably didn't even know what he was willing to put his life on the line for. I don't have to make it about politics.

What I was doing is showing how your idiotic post could just as easily be turned around to support a differing viewpoint, no less idiotic than yours, but it still fits non the less.

Rick

LOL so when asked for proof you try to spin it to make excuses for not having proof of your claims. How typical.

Funny thing is that my post was in response to a righty who was trying to blame attacks on liberals with no proof instead of "looking at the whole picture."

So it's funny how you came after me while LYING in a desperate attempt to discredit me based on your LIES.

What was that statement from the OP?

The side with the truth doesn't need smears

And yet you go out of your way to smear me when you admit that you don't know what you are talking about.

 

[drsmith1072]

It did have bearing, since Paula Jones accused him of sexual harassment, and him shtupping a young intern in the WH, could play a part in determining the grand jury members decision. Felony.

Nice spin but clinton's affair with lewinsky had NO bearing on whether he harrassed jones or not.

They are two seperate events that have nothing to do with each other. The fact that you believe it COULD sway the opinions of a jury is not proof that it was pertinent to the case being tried.

So honestly how did something that happened YEARS after the event in question have bearing on the event?? Care to explain??

That was up for the grand jury to decide, not you.

Nice spin but if it is up for a jury to decide then how can YOU claim that it was perjury?? Oops your own logic/spin shot your own argument in the foot. good job. LOL

fact is that it was ONLY making false statements under oath and your previous spin and current avoidance of the debate shows that you know that to be the case.