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you are not an ultraconservative in what way?
you said you are a reactionary. a reactionary is conservative by nature as their position is in opposition to proposed liberalism/change.
maybe it is your position that is conservative, even ultraconservative?
is there too much nuance in the real world for you? Do you want to grow up to be a logic board or something?
killing is bad but often (not always) justified... in my view. now do you disagree on some level?
I said "nobody has to do any such thing." and you said:QUOTE=Kevin_Kennedy:
Whoever told you that apparently doesn't know that the Constitution allows for the freedom of speech. You don't have to appreciate what he says, you simply have to acknowledge his right to say it.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
When you posed the question, you said it in terms of pro- something, as opposed to anti-something. What I'm saying is that I usually don't consider myself as part of a pro-anything movement - I try the best I can to apply my beliefs to a situation (ie react to it) and come to a conclusion.
If you were asking me if I was a conservative or an ultraconservative, then I misunderstood your question - I'm definitely not a conservative or ultraconservative.
I said "nobody has to do any such thing." and you said:
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thing is nobody, no individual has to acknowledge the right of every fool's every utterance. Free Speech can be and is restricted regardless of your reading of the 1st amendment.
Indeed many Israelis want 'fairness' and 'peace.' Good goals I think we all agree with.
Where are the Palestinians condemning the anti-Semites? Silent.
How will a Palestinian condemning Hamas help the situation? Won't change a thing.
Europe is a group of declining democracies, Middle East a group of growing dictatorships. Now they're joining forces and we must be as resolute in fighting the soft Europeans and freedom hating Muslims as Reagan was fighting the Communists.
postions can be conservative.
Hey, maybe we don't need the world.
Yet many say those Jews that 'speak out' about Israel are doing a 'service', go figure.
I don't think killing is always unjustified.
I know from personal involvement that the devastating invasion of Gaza by Israel could easily have been avoided.
On another visit to Syria in mid-December, I made an effort for the impending six-month deadline to be extended. It was clear that the preeminent issue was opening the crossings into Gaza. Representatives from the Carter Center visited Jerusalem, met with Israeli officials and asked if this was possible in exchange for a cessation of rocket fire. The Israeli government informally proposed that 15 percent of normal supplies might be possible if Hamas first stopped all rocket fire for 48 hours. This was unacceptable to Hamas, and hostilities erupted.
After 12 days of "combat," the Israeli Defense Forces reported that more than 1,000 targets were shelled or bombed. During that time, Israel rejected international efforts to obtain a cease-fire, with full support from Washington. Seventeen mosques, the American International School, many private homes and much of the basic infrastructure of the small but heavily populated area have been destroyed. This includes the systems that provide water, electricity and sanitation. Heavy civilian casualties are being reported by courageous medical volunteers from many nations, as the fortunate ones operate on the wounded by light from diesel-powered generators.
The Us will accept a cease fire? I'm confused here. What the hell is Carter talking about?The hope is that when further hostilities are no longer productive, Israel, Hamas and the United States will accept another cease-fire, at which time the rockets will again stop and an adequate level of humanitarian supplies will be permitted to the surviving Palestinians, with the publicized agreement monitored by the international community. The next possible step: a permanent and comprehensive peace.
After visiting Sderot last April and seeing the serious psychological damage caused by the rockets that had fallen in that area, my wife, Rosalynn, and I declared their launching from Gaza to be inexcusable and an act of terrorism.
Although casualties were rare (three deaths in seven years), the town was traumatized by the unpredictable explosions.
About 3,000 residents had moved to other communities, and the streets, playgrounds and shopping centers were almost empty. Mayor Eli Moyal assembled a group of citizens in his office to meet us and complained that the government of Israel was not stopping the rockets, either through diplomacy or military action.
nuances.
So what would you do if you were in charge over there...of Israeli reaction?
I will read Carter's piece more thoroughly and see what exactly he says/offers.
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Carter writes:
Carter writes:
and then here...
The Us will accept a cease fire? I'm confused here. What the hell is Carter talking about?
Now Carter says the war was unnecessary. Most wars are unnecessary. He offered no solution only a story of what had happened before the last cease fire was broken by HAMAS.
What would you have done if you were Israel? Taken a few more missile strikes?
How would you or anyone stop the rocket attacks short of an incursion into GAZA?
sad to say I agree with much of what you imply here.The Jews that speak out against Israel are morons, the Muslims hate them regardless of their viewpoint.
you say this too nonchalantly and your logic is flawed. We did not kill innocent Nicaraguans in order to defeat communism. Whose bunghole did you pull this shit out of?Just like we had to kill innocent Nicaraguans to defeat Communism, we're going to have kill innocent Muslims to defeat Jihadism.
If Jews and American liberals want to go soft and get all Jimmy Carter-like about this, then you can not only kiss Israel goodbye, but can expect Islamic hatred for freedom and democracy to enter this country.
Of course its "nuances".
I feel no compulsion to defend Carter's words. I only feel compulsion to defend pfife's words.
I don't need your tissue .. not even asking, nor needing your agreement.
Stay firm in your position .. I have ZERO problem with that.
Boycott the arabs .. don't buy their oil.
Organisers of the London protest said it was "just the start of the campaign"
The world protests against Israel offensive in the Gaza Strip
People across the world protested today against Israel's airstrikes in Gaza, calling for an immediate end to the violence as Israeli troops have entered the Palestinian region.
About 21,000 people rallied in Paris, and about 10,000 hit the streets of London. There were also rallies in Madrid, Amsterdam, Stockholm and Athens.
In London protesters threw their shoes at the gates of Downing Street, and they carried flags chanting 'Free, free Palestine' and 'Israel terrorists'.
Smaller protests took part in Manchester and Edinburgh, while in Paris people chanted 'We are all Palestinians'. A few people set cars alight in Paris and some windows were smashed, while protestors also made their view heard in Marseille, Lyon, Nice and Mulhouse.
About 5,000 people protested in Milan, most of them supposedly immigrants.
Athens, which as seen protests over many days now, today protested against the invasion, and some scuffles broke out in front of the Israeli embassy in the capital. Salzburg also saw some protests as about 2,300 people hit the streets.
Canadian cities also held protests today as people waving Palestinian flags denounced the Israeli offensive in Gaza, with demonstrations starting in Ottawa near Parliament Hill, with other protests springing up in Toronto.
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The world protests against Israel offensive in the Gaza Strip | NowPublic News Coverage
Muslims around the world protest Israels airstrikes on Gaza Strip
Arab Times :: Muslims around the world protest Israels airstrikes on Gaza Strip
World protests at Gaza conflict
BBC NEWS | Middle East | World protests at Gaza conflict
The answer is simple .. BOYCOTT AND DIVEST ISRAEL and BOYCOTT AMERICAN MADE PRODUCTS
Perhaps the US and Israel does not need the rest of the world.
I will read Carter's piece more thoroughly and see what exactly he says/offers.
I've always said becoming oil independent so they couldn't fund terrorists is a security issue.
I don't think killing is always unjustified.
