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We'll pick each other's sources apart, and still be nowhere near to agreeing.
Are NO BETTER than whatever you have ~
it all comes down to what resonates as Truth within YOU.
I'm sorry, 'cuz this evidently really matters to you, but see? That's usually the first clue that it something is Off ~ you have to prove it, again and again, and try to CONVINCE folks, but you never change anyone's mind, 'cuz there IS a bottom line truth.
I mean, really. Think about it. The earth changed, well before man made an appearance, so we weren't to blame for THAT, eh?
And this: With the other things happening all around us, will it really matter whether we believe in Global Warming, or not? We're about to get run over with a steamroller, and we're still worrying about whether we're keeping it between the lines...
And your grammar and spelling are atrocious!
Are we even, yet?
I'm teasing you, dude. Relax.
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It's not worth my time, nor effort, to try to refute any of the LOADS of stats, you know?
I could invest a couple of days,
but why would I?
When you really try to see the whole thing, with ALL of the influences, you realize pretty quickly that man hasn't even BEEN on this planet long enough to have affected the natural cycles/patterns.
Something y'all don't seem to realize is that, with or without us, species would become extinct.
Shit, volcanoes erupt and millions of plants and animals are killed, but guess what?
Everything settles back down to a dull roar.
And there are OTHER things going on ~
so many none of us could make a list* of 'em.
Natural events are causing as much or more havoc than humans are, you know?
They ALWAYS have, and always WILL
'cuz WE are NOT in control of it all.
*Anyone that appears on any forum with some sort of pre-coalated list? Is suspect, as a troll, that just wants to suck folks into a distraction, imho.
THIS is what you're fighting ~ folks that can see a Bigger Pic than you, and that know where you're coming from, as well as what you're trying to do. Watch the replies and see how many even click. It's a non-issue.
Hasn't the Big Fat Lie Of Global Warming been put paid to?
WTF?
The earth lives in CYCLES, too! D.U.H.!!!!
Give it a rest, pal.
It's over.
If YOU want to support the liars, by all means, SEND BUX!
Just leave me WAY out of it!
at one point in time the consensus was that the sun revolved around the earth.
consensus wasn't science then and it isn't now.
Deciding science by consensus is unscientific.
But whackjob dilettantes playing at science somehow think it is. They soil science.
In addition, the scientific consensus is also endorsed by the CEO's of the following companies:
A. O. Smith Corporation
Abbott Laboratories
Accenture Ltd.
ACE Limited
ADP
Aetna Inc.
Air Products and Chemicals, Inc.
AK Steel Corporation
Alcatel-Lucent
Allstate Insurance Company
ALLTEL Corporation
Altec Industries, Inc.
American Electric Power Company, Inc.
American Express Company
American International Group, Inc.
Ameriprise Financial
AMR Corporation/American Airlines
Anadarko Petroleum Corporation
Apache Corporation
Applera Corporation
Arch Coal, Inc.
Archer Daniels Midland Company
ArvinMeritor, Inc.
AstraZeneca Pharmaceuticals LP
Avery Dennison Corporation
Avis Budget Group, Inc.
Bechtel Group, Inc.
BNSF Railway
Boeing Company
Brink's Company CA
Carlson Companies, Inc.
Case New Holland Inc.
Ceridian Corporation
Chemtura Corporation
Chubb Corporation
CIGNA Corporation
Coca-Cola Company
Constellation Energy Group, Inc.
Convergys Corporation
Con-way Incorporated
Corning Incorporated
Crane Co.
CSX Corporation
Cummins Inc.
Deere & Company
Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu
Delphi Corporation
Dow Chemical Company
Eastman Chemical Company
Eastman Kodak Company
Eaton Corporation
EDS
Eli Lilly and Company
EMC Corporation
Ernst & Young, L.L.P.
Fannie Mae
FedEx Corporation
Fluor Corporation
FMC Corporation
Freddie Mac
General Mills, Inc.
General Motors Corporation
Goldman Sachs Group, Inc.
Goodrich Corporation
Harman International Industries, Inc.
Hartford Financial Services Group
Home Depot, Inc., The
Honeywell International, Inc.
HSBC - North America
Humana Inc.
IBM Corporation
Ingersoll-Rand Company
International Textile Group
ITT Corporation
Johnson Controls, Inc.
JP Morgan Chase & Co.
KPMG LLP
Liberty Mutual Group
MassMutual
MasterCard Incorporated
McGraw-Hill Companies
McKesson Corporation
MeadWestvaco Corporation
Medco Health Solutions, Inc.
Merck & Co., Inc.
Merrill Lynch & Company, Inc.
MetLife, Inc.
Morgan Stanley
Motorola, Inc.
Nasdaq Stock Market, Inc.
National Gypsum Company
Nationwide
Navistar International Corporation
New York Life Insurance Company
Norfolk Southern Corporation
Northwestern Mutual Life Insurance Company
Nucor Corporation
NYSE Group, Inc.
Office Depot, Inc.
Owens Corning (Reorganized) Inc.
Pactiv Corporation
Peabody Energy Corporation
Pfizer Inc
PPG Industries, Inc.
Praxair, Inc.
PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP
Principal Financial Group
Procter & Gamble Company
Prudential Financial
Realogy Corporation
Rockwell Automation, Inc.
Ryder System, Inc.
SAP America, Inc.
Sara Lee Corporation
SAS Institute Inc.
Schering-Plough Corporation
Schneider National, Inc.
ServiceMaster Company
Siemens Corporation
Southern Company
Springs Global US, Inc.
Sprint Nextel
St. Paul Travelers Companies, Inc.
State Farm Insurance Companies
Tenneco
Texas Instruments Incorporated
Textron Incorporated
Thermo Fisher Scientific Inc.
TIAA-CREF
Tyco Electronics
Tyco International Ltd.
Union Pacific Corporation
Unisys Corporation
United Technologies Corporation
UnitedHealth Group Incorporated
USG Corporation
Verizon Communications
W.W. Grainger, Inc.
Western & Southern Financial Group
Weyerhaeuser Company
Whirlpool Corporation
Williams Companies, Inc.
Xerox Corporation
YRC Worldwide Inc
The fact that you think some sort of consensus is relevant to the science rules you out as any significant contributor in the debate.at one point in time the consensus was that the sun revolved around the earth.
consensus wasn't science then and it isn't now.
That's the kind of lamebrained, dead ignorant twaddle that is so typical of you denier cultists.
We're talking about the current scientific consensus on anthropogenic global warming. 'Science' as we know it is a very recent phenomenon in human history. There was no organized 'science' as such to have a consensus back in time when the accepted religious belief was that the sun revolved around the Earth.
Moreover, nitwit, no one is claiming that "consensus is science". Science is science and it uses evidence and data to reach conclusions about the world around us. Once there is sufficient evidence to reach a conclusion and most of the scientists accept that conclusion as an accurate reflection of reality, then you have a scientific consensus. The consensus rests on the science, not the other way around.
Try to find a real argument and not these silly straw-men and maybe you won't look like such an idiot.
What are the deniers denying?The fact that you think some sort of consensus is relevant to the science rules you out as any significant contributor in the debate.
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Actually it's just the opposite. That's not to say that consensus can't be wrong, but the deniers have to actually have some evidence to change that consensus. So far, they've failed miserably on the scientific end, hence the big political push.
The fact that you think some sort of consensus is relevant to the science rules you out as any significant contributor in the debate.
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Actually it's just the opposite. That's not to say that consensus can't be wrong, but the deniers have to actually have some evidence to change that consensus. So far, they've failed miserably on the scientific end, hence the big political push.
at one point in time the consensus was that the sun revolved around the earth.
consensus wasn't science then and it isn't now.
That's the kind of lamebrained, dead ignorant twaddle that is so typical of you denier cultists.
We're talking about the current scientific consensus on anthropogenic global warming. 'Science' as we know it is a very recent phenomenon in human history. There was no organized 'science' as such to have a consensus back in time when the accepted religious belief was that the sun revolved around the Earth.
Moreover, nitwit, no one is claiming that "consensus is science". Science is science and it uses evidence and data to reach conclusions about the world around us. Once there is sufficient evidence to reach a conclusion and most of the scientists accept that conclusion as an accurate reflection of reality, then you have a scientific consensus. The consensus rests on the science, not the other way around.
Try to find a real argument and not these silly straw-men and maybe you won't look like such an idiot.
Just as 1 billion times zero equals zero so does this list.
What equals zero is the number of functioning brain cells in your little pinhead, walleyed.
