The War On Drugs Is Up In Smoke

I think we should pass a Constitutional amendment which makes marijuana legal in California and prohibits the possibility of it ever being legal anywhere else. That should make everyone happy.

Ritalin is more addictive than pot, why should that remain legal?

I don't think it should. It should be illegal to give such drugs to children under 18 unless they are institutionalized and under care.

I'm just all for all the dopers moving to California. That's almost as good as them no longer being able to vote.
 
I think we should pass a Constitutional amendment which makes marijuana legal in California and prohibits the possibility of it ever being legal anywhere else. That should make everyone happy.

That's already on the agenda. Petitions are circulating in California right now to legalize marijuana. Today it is their number 1 cash crop. These like described--are mom & pop home growers--that are typically non-violent. This while we have mexican drug lords on the border that are killing cops--cutting off heads, etc. etc. If California legalizes marijuana--there will be petitions in every single state across this nation to do the same. The federal government cannot say it's O.K. for California but no other state--:lol::lol:

The judge in the video is incorrect. There are only 11 states that approve the use of medical marijuana--not 24. These states are strickly regulated to how many can be grown--etc. etc. The judge also sounds like he is O.K. with anything for recreational drugs to be legalized--not just marijuana--which would be herion--crack/cocaine--& meth--which would never meet the approval of the general population--where as marijuana might.
 
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I think we should pass a Constitutional amendment which makes marijuana legal in California and prohibits the possibility of it ever being legal anywhere else. That should make everyone happy.

That's already on the agenda. Petitions are circulating in California right now to legalize marijuana. Today it is their number 1 cash crop. These like described--are mom & pop home growers--that are typically non-violent. This while we have mexican drug lords on the border that are killing cops--cutting off heads, etc. etc. If California legalizes marijuana--there will be petitions in every single state across this nation to do the same. The federal government cannot say it's O.K. for California but no other state--:lol::lol:

The judge in the video is incorrect. There are only 11 states that approve the use of medical marijuana--not 24. These states are strickly regulated to how many can be grown--etc. etc. The judge also sounds like he is O.K. with anything for recreational drugs to be legalized--not just marijuana--which would be herion--crack/cocaine--& meth--which would never meet the approval of the general population--where as marijuana might.

Let's legalize heroin and cocaine too...that'll teach those dang Mexican drug lords who's boss!!!!:lol:
 
All you have to do to see the effects of marijuana is listen to some dopers talk for a while. I think all possession of marijuana should be a felony, and it doesn't even need any penalty associated with it for less than a pound of it, if it's a felony then we could stop at least half the Democrats from voting.

I love it when the dopers call into Michael Medved and argue about how great marijuana is and why it should be legal. Hilarious!

So do you get off to locking innocent people in cages with violent criminals or is it just a casual hobby?

See above to realize the effects of marijuana usage.
and it doesn't even need any penalty associated with it for less than a pound of it

I don't give a fuck about the effects. It's the principle of the matter.

What's next, you gonna make my Dr. Pepper illegal cause it makes me unhealthy. Why don't you just make cheesburgers illegal cause it makes people fat!

Man, I will put in my body what I want to put in my body. Fuck you if you don't like it.:talktothehand:
 
So do you get off to locking innocent people in cages with violent criminals or is it just a casual hobby?

See above to realize the effects of marijuana usage.
and it doesn't even need any penalty associated with it for less than a pound of it

I don't give a fuck about the effects. It's the principle of the matter.

What's next, you gonna make my Dr. Pepper illegal cause it makes me unhealthy. Why don't you just make cheesburgers illegal cause it makes people fat!

Man, I will put in my body what I want to put in my body. Fuck you if you don't like it.:talktothehand:
Ok, really, what the hell are you blithering on about? This is why you shouldn't use marijuana, you stop making any sense at all and talk about random non-related shit that no one can figure out.
 
See above to realize the effects of marijuana usage.

I don't give a fuck about the effects. It's the principle of the matter.

What's next, you gonna make my Dr. Pepper illegal cause it makes me unhealthy. Why don't you just make cheesburgers illegal cause it makes people fat!

Man, I will put in my body what I want to put in my body. Fuck you if you don't like it.:talktothehand:
Ok, really, what the hell are you blithering on about? This is why you shouldn't use marijuana, you stop making any sense at all and talk about random non-related shit that no one can figure out.

Consistency is non-related shit?

How you gonna tell me not to put one thing in my body and not say you have authority over EVERYTHING I put in my body? Where does the line stop?

Freedom mother fucker, my body, my life, my property. You try and infringe on that shit, I'm gonna use my second ammenment rights on your ass.
 
I think we should pass a Constitutional amendment which makes marijuana legal in California and prohibits the possibility of it ever being legal anywhere else. That should make everyone happy.

That's already on the agenda. Petitions are circulating in California right now to legalize marijuana. Today it is their number 1 cash crop. These like described--are mom & pop home growers--that are typically non-violent. This while we have mexican drug lords on the border that are killing cops--cutting off heads, etc. etc. If California legalizes marijuana--there will be petitions in every single state across this nation to do the same. The federal government cannot say it's O.K. for California but no other state--:lol::lol:

The judge in the video is incorrect. There are only 11 states that approve the use of medical marijuana--not 24. These states are strickly regulated to how many can be grown--etc. etc. The judge also sounds like he is O.K. with anything for recreational drugs to be legalized--not just marijuana--which would be herion--crack/cocaine--& meth--which would never meet the approval of the general population--where as marijuana might.

It's ok as long as legalization doesn't spread, we want to keep them all contained in California, and get all the dopers from everywhere else to move there also.

I don't buy into this non-violence crap. Sure they don't generally assault people when on marijuana, but they do a terrible violence to freedom and liberty once they have waged war on their own intellect and then vote and try to influence the way our country is governed. Marijuana's effects are horrendously violent, but don't directly cause violence. That comes later once they've turned the country into a socialist 'paradise'.
 
I think we should pass a Constitutional amendment which makes marijuana legal in California and prohibits the possibility of it ever being legal anywhere else. That should make everyone happy.

That's already on the agenda. Petitions are circulating in California right now to legalize marijuana. Today it is their number 1 cash crop. These like described--are mom & pop home growers--that are typically non-violent. This while we have mexican drug lords on the border that are killing cops--cutting off heads, etc. etc. If California legalizes marijuana--there will be petitions in every single state across this nation to do the same. The federal government cannot say it's O.K. for California but no other state--:lol::lol:

The judge in the video is incorrect. There are only 11 states that approve the use of medical marijuana--not 24. These states are strickly regulated to how many can be grown--etc. etc. The judge also sounds like he is O.K. with anything for recreational drugs to be legalized--not just marijuana--which would be herion--crack/cocaine--& meth--which would never meet the approval of the general population--where as marijuana might.

It's ok as long as legalization doesn't spread, we want to keep them all contained in California, and get all the dopers from everywhere else to move there also.

I don't buy into this non-violence crap. Sure they don't generally assault people when on marijuana, but they do a terrible violence to freedom and liberty once they have waged war on their own intellect and then vote and try to influence the way our country is governed. Marijuana's effects are horrendously violent, but don't directly cause violence. That comes later once they've turned the country into a socialist 'paradise'.

Man what the fuck are you talking about? I smoked dope for years and I'm a mother fucking Capitalist! I hate Obama, brother's done screwed up the Presidency for the rest of us... we ain't gonna get a shot at that for another hundred years.

You can't "protect" freedom by taking it away. Apply the free market to drugs and pot... they'd be safer than on the black market, and it ain't gonna change the usage. Trying to wage war on drugs is like trying to wage war on sex... it just ain't gonna happen.
 
I think we should pass a Constitutional amendment which makes marijuana legal in California and prohibits the possibility of it ever being legal anywhere else. That should make everyone happy.

That's already on the agenda. Petitions are circulating in California right now to legalize marijuana. Today it is their number 1 cash crop. These like described--are mom & pop home growers--that are typically non-violent. This while we have mexican drug lords on the border that are killing cops--cutting off heads, etc. etc. If California legalizes marijuana--there will be petitions in every single state across this nation to do the same. The federal government cannot say it's O.K. for California but no other state--:lol::lol:

The judge in the video is incorrect. There are only 11 states that approve the use of medical marijuana--not 24. These states are strickly regulated to how many can be grown--etc. etc. The judge also sounds like he is O.K. with anything for recreational drugs to be legalized--not just marijuana--which would be herion--crack/cocaine--& meth--which would never meet the approval of the general population--where as marijuana might.

It's ok as long as legalization doesn't spread, we want to keep them all contained in California, and get all the dopers from everywhere else to move there also.

I don't buy into this non-violence crap. Sure they don't generally assault people when on marijuana, but they do a terrible violence to freedom and liberty once they have waged war on their own intellect and then vote and try to influence the way our country is governed. Marijuana's effects are horrendously violent, but don't directly cause violence. That comes later once they've turned the country into a socialist 'paradise'.

You're talking about something that cannot be done. First of all if marijuana ever became legal in the U.S--who is going to take it over? The tabacco industry would be first in line. That means Kentucky & tabacco growing states--not just California.

For a fact--people have been smoking pot for decades. There is not one single medical evidence that anything has happened to them medically--such as lung cancer--which one might expect to show up. It hasn't.

Compare the violence associated with alcohol related violence & deaths compared to pot. It's non-existent. The only violence we witness are people trying to get marijuana into this country--because there is prohibition on it.

To add--if legalized & regulated like tobacco & alcohol--think of the tax revenues that would come from it.

We do KNOW that there are certain medical benefits associated with marijuana. Recently a CU professor has been giving rats with brain tumors marijuana which has completely irradicated the tumors in these mice. Now think about Americans who are using addictive prescription drugs--to sleep--for pain--for nausea--for chrones disease, etc. etc. etc. The list goes on & on--& that is why pharmacutical companies are the main lobbyists AGAINST legalizing marijuana.
 
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That's already on the agenda. Petitions are circulating in California right now to legalize marijuana. Today it is their number 1 cash crop. These like described--are mom & pop home growers--that are typically non-violent. This while we have mexican drug lords on the border that are killing cops--cutting off heads, etc. etc. If California legalizes marijuana--there will be petitions in every single state across this nation to do the same. The federal government cannot say it's O.K. for California but no other state--:lol::lol:

The judge in the video is incorrect. There are only 11 states that approve the use of medical marijuana--not 24. These states are strickly regulated to how many can be grown--etc. etc. The judge also sounds like he is O.K. with anything for recreational drugs to be legalized--not just marijuana--which would be herion--crack/cocaine--& meth--which would never meet the approval of the general population--where as marijuana might.

It's ok as long as legalization doesn't spread, we want to keep them all contained in California, and get all the dopers from everywhere else to move there also.

I don't buy into this non-violence crap. Sure they don't generally assault people when on marijuana, but they do a terrible violence to freedom and liberty once they have waged war on their own intellect and then vote and try to influence the way our country is governed. Marijuana's effects are horrendously violent, but don't directly cause violence. That comes later once they've turned the country into a socialist 'paradise'.

Man what the fuck are you talking about? I smoked dope for years and I'm a mother fucking Capitalist! I hate Obama, brother's done screwed up the Presidency for the rest of us... we ain't gonna get a shot at that for another hundred years.

You can't "protect" freedom by taking it away. Apply the free market to drugs and pot... they'd be safer than on the black market, and it ain't gonna change the usage. Trying to wage war on drugs is like trying to wage war on sex... it just ain't gonna happen.

Welcome to the club of being the exception. Here's a link, I've never actually looked anything up on it before, everyone knows that MOST marijuana users are liberals. Legalize Marijuana - Ideas for Change in America
It says 80% of liberals are in favor of legalization and 25% of conservatives are. If you add those together that pretty well equals the total number of users in the country I'd say and it seems over 3 times as many liberals are users.
 
Consistency is non-related shit?

How you gonna tell me not to put one thing in my body and not say you have authority over EVERYTHING I put in my body? Where does the line stop?

That is part of my opposition to the current War in Drugs, but only part. My greatest concern is that the War on Drugs creates an extra incentive for pushers to specifically target minors. Minors are not undercover police. Minors can be sold like a commodity to pedophiles to pay for their addiction once they have been hooked. Combine those two and you get something horrible enough to make Orwell look tame.

Let us postulate that we could legalize and regulate drugs while making it a capital felony to provide them to minors. Would this approach decrease societal costs associated with drug use? If so, then why does no one support such a movement?

Blindly continuing failed policy is a grave error and the current war on drugs is a clear failure.
 
All you have to do to see the effects of marijuana is listen to some dopers talk for a while. I think all possession of marijuana should be a felony, and it doesn't even need any penalty associated with it for less than a pound of it, if it's a felony then we could stop at least half the Democrats from voting.

I love it when the dopers call into Michael Medved and argue about how great marijuana is and why it should be legal. Hilarious!

The same holds true for alcohol. Ever listen to a drunk? We need to make alcohol illegal also.
 
All you have to do to see the effects of marijuana is listen to some dopers talk for a while. I think all possession of marijuana should be a felony, and it doesn't even need any penalty associated with it for less than a pound of it, if it's a felony then we could stop at least half the Democrats from voting.

I love it when the dopers call into Michael Medved and argue about how great marijuana is and why it should be legal. Hilarious!

The same holds true for alcohol. Ever listen to a drunk? We need to make alcohol illegal also.

I've known alcoholics and the two are not really comparable. The number of alcoholics who get as stupid as dopers and stay that way all day whether they are on the bottle or not and even later in life once their days of usage is behind them is extremely negligible. But it is at least 75% of all regular users of marijuana.
 
All you have to do to see the effects of marijuana is listen to some dopers talk for a while. I think all possession of marijuana should be a felony, and it doesn't even need any penalty associated with it for less than a pound of it, if it's a felony then we could stop at least half the Democrats from voting.

I love it when the dopers call into Michael Medved and argue about how great marijuana is and why it should be legal. Hilarious!

The same holds true for alcohol. Ever listen to a drunk? We need to make alcohol illegal also.

I've known alcoholics and the two are not really comparable. The number of alcoholics who get as stupid as dopers and stay that way all day whether they are on the bottle or not and even later in life once their days of usage is behind them is extremely negligible. But it is at least 75% of all regular users of marijuana.

No it's not. Again I am in defense of people I know that have smoked pot for decades. They are very productive citizens of this country. They work--they pay taxes--& they abide by the laws of this country--"with the only exception" they smoke pot.

Cheech & Chong--did a real dis-service to marijuana. Their movies have stuck in peoples brains for decades. That anyone who smokes pot is a dud-head--stupid loosers, when they're not. We will always have people who will abuse alcohol & marijuana. But the stigmatizm against marijuana is outrageous--& nothing more than propoganda.

Some facts for you: Marijuana was actually legal in this country on two different occassions.

1. The declaration of independance is written on hemp paper a product of the marijuana plant. Thereafter--the black community in this country started using it for recreational use & it was outlawed.
2. They legalized again in the early 1900's & the government was O.K. with it--until they noticed that our soldiers who were smoking it during WW2 were not nearly as agressive toward the enemy--they then outlawed it again & it's been that way ever since.
3. The pharmacuticals companies are the # 1 lobbyists in D.C. against legalizing marijuana for obvious reasons. It's effect on many people with a variety of different medical problems are very positive. A non-addictive--completely organic--plant that benefits people with certain medical conditions--that would spell financial ruin to many of the addictive--chemically compounded--dangerous prescription drugs that they sell us.
 
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There use to be an age in America where the personal moral choices a person makes were theirs' to make. Prostitution was never a crime yet it was considered especially foul by most everyone yet no one ever thought they had a right to interfere with a choice someone else makes over their own profession.

Now if someone was to say that they support legalizing drugs or prostitution it is thought of as almost the same as endorsing it but that is not the case. Asking for the right to do something is not asking to do that but asking for the right to make a choice whether you want to do something because you may legalize drugs and still choose not to do them. You may still condemn others who do it but your power to make that choice is what you are preserving.
 
The War On Drugs Is Up In Smoke

.....And, it's KARMA TIME for those disciples o' Harry J. Anslinger!!!

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"As federal officials mull how to react to the passage of marijuana laws in Washington and Colorado, the head of a United Nations drug agency is urging the federal government to do whatever necessary to ensure the United States’ continued compliance with international drug treaties.

International Narcotics Control Board President Raymond Yans said laws authorizing the non-medical use of cannabis violate international drug control treaties and send ‘‘a wrong message to the rest of the nation and … a wrong message abroad.’’ Under the 1961 Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs, marijuana is listed as a “Schedule I” drug, meaning states are tasked with implementing a system for limiting usage of the drug to medical and scientific purposes."

Whatta GREAT YEAR for watching the "conservative"-agenda going belly-UP!!!!

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November 19, 2012

State and Federal Level;
ON DECK
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"The message from our big wins on Election Day has already begun to reverberate around the nation. Right on the heels of the votes in Washington and Colorado, several other states (and countries!) are already beginning to consider similar measures in their legislature.

Last week, representatives from Maine and Rhode Island announced their intentions to introduce legislation that would tax and regulate marijuana in their respective states. Rep. Diane Russell of Maine and Rep. Edit Ajello from Rhode Island will be submitting these bills soon. Reports from Marijuana Policy Project indicated that Vermont and Massachusetts intend to follow suit.

Reform is spreading as far as Iowa. Today, Rep. Bruce Hunter announced his intentions of not only reintroducing his medical marijuana measure, but also a bill that would decriminalize the possession of cannabis."

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All you have to do to see the effects of marijuana is listen to some dopers talk for a while. I think all possession of marijuana should be a felony, and it doesn't even need any penalty associated with it for less than a pound of it, if it's a felony then we could stop at least half the Democrats from voting.

I love it when the dopers call into Michael Medved and argue about how great marijuana is and why it should be legal. Hilarious!


Hey--I am a conservative. I know doctor's--lawyers & many friends that have smoked marijuana for decades. All of them law-abiding--hard working--tax paying citizens. Not a bum in the bunch. They smoke marijuana because it relaxes them. It's absolutely harmless. It's completely organic in nature. It's not derived & compounded with other chemicals in some chemists bottle & then turned into something that can actually do harm to the individual.

Guess who the biggest lobbyist's are in Washington D.C that are AGAINST the legalization of marijuana?
Answer: Pharmacutical companies They know you can grow it out in your back yard-& they wouldn't make a penny off of it.--LOL.

There are many indications that it does have medical benefit to those that suffer from chronic pain & many other medical problems. Doctors are prescribing medical marijuana to individuals with certain condiditons, because many doctors are starting to realise the benefit of giving a patient a marijuana card versus prescription pain pills--that over long term use destroys hearts & kidneys.

The feds. need to back off of marijuana. Right now it is still classified as a schedule 1 drug right up there with cocaine--meth--& heroin. That's ridiculous.



I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find out that Mexican cartel money somehow has made its way to Washington in the form of anti-marijuana lobbying...
 
I think we should pass a Constitutional amendment which makes marijuana legal in California and prohibits the possibility of it ever being legal anywhere else. That should make everyone happy.

Ritalin is more addictive than pot, why should that remain legal?

I don't think it should. It should be illegal to give such drugs to children under 18 unless they are institutionalized and under care.

I'm just all for all the dopers moving to California. That's almost as good as them no longer being able to vote.



The rate of kids being institutionalized will dramatically rise under these conditions.
We have some very disturbed and crazy kids out there.

I have seen hundreds of kids over the years that were not functional at all without their "disco biscuits".
 
So do you get off to locking innocent people in cages with violent criminals or is it just a casual hobby?

See above to realize the effects of marijuana usage.
and it doesn't even need any penalty associated with it for less than a pound of it

I don't give a fuck about the effects. It's the principle of the matter.

What's next, you gonna make my Dr. Pepper illegal cause it makes me unhealthy. Why don't you just make cheesburgers illegal cause it makes people fat!

Man, I will put in my body what I want to put in my body. Fuck you if you don't like it.:talktothehand:

Nanny state, uber alles!
 

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