The Wall Nobody Talks About

[Flanders]

Jeb Bush cannot possibly believe this:

Donald Trump took a lot of heat for implying that George W. Bush was responsible for failing to prevent 9/11. (He didn't say it outright, saying merely that it happened on Bush's watch, but I think it was clearly implied.) He said that our porous immigration system was partially responsible for the attacks.

Jeb Bush agrees that 9/11 happened due to Bush/Clinton immigration policies

Jeb Bush agrees that 9/11 happened due to Bush/Clinton immigration policies​

I have no objection to Trump building a wall on our southern border, but he first better investigate the root cause for the success of the attacks on 9-11-2001:

The Intelligence community was blamed for the attacks on 9-11-2001. In fact, after 9-11-2001 every intelligence agency was put under one umbrella controlled by one man, the National Director of Intelligence. It was a bad idea then, and it’s a bad idea now. That’s why I’m surprised Hussein would blame the intelligence community after the Democrats got everything they lusted after for decades of control of every intelligence agency for political purposes. If Democrats had that control during the Cold War the Soviet Union would still be terrorizing the world.

Initially, Susan Rice blamed 9-11-2012 on intelligence community failures when her 5-talk-shows misinformation campaign about a video no one saw backfired. As recently as last Thursday night Joe Biden blamed the Benghazi murders on the intelligence community.

Let’s go back to the blame for 9-11-2001. It belongs on the Clintons; notably Jamie Gorelick’s infamous memo:

As Deputy Attorney General under Bill Clinton from 1994 to 1997 Gorelick wrote the memo that created the now infamous “Gorelick Wall.” A 1995 memo she wrote, stated explicitly that they would “go beyond what is legally required, [to] prevent any risk of creating an unwarranted appearance that FISA is being used to avoid procedural safeguards which would apply in a criminal investigation.” These rules were, shortly after their creation, expanded to regulate such communications in future counter-terrorism investigations. It set a procedure where various intelligence operations such as the FBI and CIA could not share information with each other.

Jamie Gorelick’s “wall” barred anti-terror investigators from accessing the computer of Zacarias Moussaoui, the 20th hijacker, already in custody on an immigration violation shortly before 9/11.

At the time, an enraged FBI investigator wrote a prophetic memo to headquarters about the wall

“Whatever has happened to this someday someone will die and wall or not the public will not understand why we were not more effective in throwing every resource we had at certain problems..especially since the biggest threat to us UBL [Usama bin Laden], is getting the most protection.​

The Benghazi Bungler | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum​

And this:

The 911 Commission was all about covering up for the Clintons. If I remember correctly, Attorney General John Ashcroft declassified Gorelick’s memo for the commission’s enlightenment. Instead of evaluating the Wall Memo a member of the commission immediately jumped to Gorelick’s defense by chastising Ashcroft.

By the time the DHS was up and running everybody in the media conveniently forgot that The Mistress of Disaster was a member of the 911 Commission. Hell, Gorelick even co-authored the Commission’s final report. That was only time that I know of where a known culprit was allowed to sit on the jury —— and write the verdict.

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When was the last time you heard a television turd-maggot dare mention Gorelick’s Wall?

The bombshell memo that Attorney General John Ashcroft revealed during his testimony before the 9/11 Commission marked a dramatic shift in the hearings. Till then, the Bush administration had largely been on the defensive trying to explain their failure to connect the dots that might have prevented the 9/11 attacks. By declassifying and releasing a 1995 memo written by then-deputy attorney general Jamie Gorelick, also a member of the 9/11 commission investigating what went wrong, the perception of the committee and the investigation vastly changed.

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Ashcroft then released the memo, which revealed that Gorelick had actually written the policy procedures that “go beyond what is legally required” in building up the wall between counterintelligence and criminal investigations that had been erected in the 1970s as part of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, FISA. She had not disclosed this to the committee when she accepted her place on it. The Ashcroft move was so effective and dramatic that liberal Al Hunt of the Wall Street Journal tried to compare him to Joseph McCarthy.

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. . . Ashcroft’s Justice Department had basically retained the Gorelick memo. But it was Ashcroft who was testifying before the commission. Gorelick was sitting in judgment of him when she should have been under scrutiny herself.

The Gorelick Memo
Cliff Kincaid — May 5, 2004

The Gorelick Memo​

NOTE: They will never stop trying to save the Clintons.

The 9/11 Commission was a travesty from day one; its sole purpose was to coverup for the Clintons. As pathetic as the Commission’s report was, you will notice that Clinton apologists refer to it at every opportunity.

A just-declassified monograph written for the 9/11 Commission would have us believe the Clinton-era "Gorelick wall" between police and intelligence can't be blamed. Oh really? Steven Aftergood's Secrecy News alerts us to the release of a previously unreleased analysis of the effect of the Gorelick wall on intelligence sharing before 9/11:

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The Gorelick memo was specifically about the 1993 World Trade Center bombing (a point that most people miss for some reason) and it was not misunderstood. The Clinton administration did not want any proper intelligence investigation of that bombing (or the attacks that followed.)

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White asked permission to do an intelligence investigation into the WTC bombing -- and Gorelick told her no. She should stick to the criminal investigation/prosecution and other people would do the intelligence investigation in order to keep the two separate. White protested, asserting that it was an artificial distinction.

June 17, 2009
It wasn't the Gorelick Wall?
Clarice Feldman

Blog: It wasn't the Gorelick Wall?​

Bottom line: The New World Order crowd has too much time and money invested in President Hillary Clinton and United Nations Secretary General Bubba Clinton. Every lie, every whitewash, is behind making Hillary Clinton acceptable to American voters. The worse part is that President Joe Biden and United Nations Secretary General Barack Hussein Obama will do in a pinch:

Washington rumor has it that Obama wants to be U.N. Secretary General.​

May 25, 2013
Benghazi and Obama's Ambition to Be U.N. SecGen
By James Lewis

Articles: Benghazi and Obama's Ambition to Be U.N. SecGen​

 

[Flanders]

The Intelligence community was blamed for the attacks on 9-11-2001. In fact, after 9-11-2001 every intelligence agency was put under one umbrella controlled by one man, the National Director of Intelligence. It was a bad idea then, and it’s a bad idea now.

When was the last time you heard a television turd-maggot dare mention Gorelick’s Wall?

Subscription television’s top rated talking head is still blaming the intelligence community with nary a word about Gorelick’s Wall —— ordered built by the Clintons in an attempt to salvage the remnants of worldwide Socialism after the Soviet Union imploded:

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O'Reilly: "Political Madness" Trying To Blame Someone For 9/11
Posted on October 20, 2015​

I am waiting to hear how O’Reilly handles the FBI investigation if they find evidence that Hillary Clinton committed espionage.

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No matter the crime, television turd-maggots will find a way to spin it so that high-ranking Democrats get away with it —— so long as nobody breaks the golden rule:

Nobody talks. Everybody walks.​

 

[Arianrhod]

Thought it would be about this wall:

 

[Flanders]

I am more than thrilled to see Investor’s Business Daily cite Gorelick’s Wall while I dispute the interpretation:

It is true, as Trump mentioned, that the relationship was dysfunctional between federal agencies who should have been helping each other, especially the CIA and the FBI. But the blame for this goes to Bill Clinton and his attorney general, Janet Reno.

Her July, 1995 "Procedures for Contacts Between the FBI and the Criminal Division Concerning Foreign Intelligence and Foreign Counterintelligence Investigations," known as "the Wall," the purpose of which was to prevent Watergate-style abuses of power, had the effect of preventing anti-terrorist agents in different agencies from communicating with one another.​

The Clintons did not order the Wall built to “. . . prevent Watergate-style abuses of power . . .”. The Wall was built to prevent intelligence agencies from infiltrating Communist organizations:

in an attempt to salvage the remnants of worldwide Socialism after the Soviet Union imploded:

More than stupidity, it was the global Socialist agenda that blocked the Clinton Administration from seeing Muslims benefitting from Gorelick’s Wall as much as did international, and domestic, Communists.

NOTE: The current CIA Director was “. . . a daily intelligence briefer for President Clinton.”

Hussein nominated John Brennan for CIA director in addition to Kerry & Hagel. I guess he couldn’t find anyone with a military uniform hanging in the closet after General Petraeus fell apart; so he settled for a Beltway insider.

Brennan was with the CIA for 25 years. Part of that time was spent as a daily intelligence briefer for President Clinton. He was station chief in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia when the Khobar Towers was bombed killing 19 U.S. servicemen in 1996. Brennan was deputy executive director of the CIA in March 2001. My quick research did not tell me if Brennan was still on the job up to and beyond 9-11-2001.

My point. If you remember the phoney-baloney 9-11 Commission you know that the entire intelligence community took the fall for 9-11-2001. I’m not saying Brennan should be blamed for 9-11, or for any of the earlier disasters, but it does seems to me that a whole lot of bad shitz happens right under his nose. Sadly, life in Cuckooland being what it is —— nothing is more natural for Hussein than to move one of the boys in the fürhrerbunker up the ladder.

It’s not only me. Brennan’s reputation and résumé are sketchy at best. Glenn Greenwald hits the highlights in this article.

John Brennan's extremism and dishonesty rewarded with CIA Director nomination
Obama's top terrorism adviser goes from unconfirmable in 2008 to uncontroversial in 2013, reflecting the Obama legacy
Glenn Greenwald
Monday 7 January 2013 09.55 EST

John Brennan's extremism and dishonesty rewarded with CIA Director nomination | Glenn Greenwald
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Let me close with this from Investor’s Business Daily:

You would expect a Republican presidential candidate to critique the Democrat president on whose watch such crippling, politicized regulations were imposed.

But Trump instead — like President Obama, and countless Democrats in Congress — finds a way to "Blame Bush" for yet another thing.

Statements like this are what lead some to wonder whether Trump is a stalking horse for Hillary Clinton — to whom he contributed generously in 2002, 2005, 2006 and 2007. Trump has also given $100,000 to the Clinton Foundation, and Hillary even attended Trump's latest wedding in 2005.

Trump Embraces Conspiracy Theory On The Sept. 11th Attacks
10/20/2015 06:55 PM ET

Trump Embraces Conspiracy Theory On The Sept. 11th Attacks​

One fact gets lost in every charge and countercharge stemming from 9-11-2001 —— Bush the Younger took the fight to the enemy when he invaded Iraq WITHOUT APPROVAL FROM THE UNITED NATIONS. That reason, and that reason alone, is why Democrats hate him. The current president and his entire Administration cannot wipe their asses without first getting permission from the UN.

 

[Flanders]

Jeb Bush might not have realized it, but invoking Pearl Harbor to make a point revives the Pearl Harbor Conspiracy Theory:

Amazing. In reacting to Donald Trump making the obvious observation that George W. Bush was president on 9/11 and America was not safe, an indignant Jeb Bush said this to CNN’s Jake Tapper: “Next week Trump will probably say that FDR was around when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor.”

Yes, Jeb, FDR Was Blamed for Pearl Harbor
Trying to deflect Trump, the ex-frontrunner stumbles again.
By Jeffrey Lord – 10.20.15

Yes, Jeb, FDR Was Blamed for Pearl Harbor​

The following is my interpretation and nothing more.

The Pearl Harbor Conspiracy Theory must be examined with the politics and events that led to America’s entry into the war in Europe. Once again, my comments are my interpretation of a theory.

1. The American public wanted no part of the war in Europe. FDR, spurred on by Churchill, was determined to get the U.S. into that war which began in 1939. Churchill’s agenda was to keep Germany from becoming a world power; thereby, threatening the British Empire and its interests. The Empire was already in serious trouble at the time; especially in India where the Raj was under attack by independence-minded Indians like Gandhi (1869 - 1948). There was also a strong faction inside India who wanted to enter the war on Germany’s side.

2. Japan was Germany’s ally. The biggest single mistake Hitler made was in declaring war on the United States not long after Pearl Harbor. I believe that both Germany and Japan were operating under the delusion that the U.S. could not fight a two ocean war.

3. Japan attacked the United States, yet 90% of this country’s war effort was directed towards the European War and saving Communism in the Soviet Union. Suspicious at the very least. One would think that FDR would have wanted to squash Japan out of existence as quickly as possible by putting all available resources into the Pacific War. Instead, he chose to concentrate on Europe. The Pacific War dragged on for four years as a result when it could have been brought to successful conclusion in one year.

4. Had Hitler not declared war on the U.S., FDR would have been forced to concentrate the war effort on Japan. Hitler’s miscalculation was compounded here. After Japan had been beaten, the American public would still have been against helping Communism survive in the Soviet Union.

Americans could see no good reason for entering the war in Europe. Polls taken in the pre-WWII era showed that 80 percent of the American people wanted no part of a European war. As late as June 23, 1941, then-Senator Truman remarked:

If we see that Germany is winning we ought to help Russia, and if Russia is winning we ought to help Germany, and that way let them kill as many as possible. Harry Truman​

Senator Harry S. Truman was a vehement opponent of America getting involved in a second European War. The man who would later become president understood the American people because he was one of them. To hear today’s liberals talk about WWII, young Americans have been conned into believing that Americans could not wait to go to war in Europe.

NOTE: Fascism and Communism are equally abhorrent political systems to most Americans. Before the world learned of the Holocaust, it would not have mattered one iota which side won in Europe. Had the Holocaust never happened it would be easier today to show Fascism and Communism as both sides of the same coin. Because the Holocaust did happen, Fascism is the more evil of the two, but not by much. American Socialists/Communists claim sainthood under false pretenses to this day because of the Holocaust.

5. The British had broken the Japanese Naval Code before Dec. 1941. FDR’s defenders claim that he was not told that the Japanese Naval Code had been broken prior to Dec. 7, 1941. For anyone to believe that FDR did not know the attack was imminent ignores the kind of president FDR was. Nothing went on in his Administrations that he didn’t know about. That man was the most manipulative, devious, president who ever lived in the White House. Can anyone realistically believe that breaking the Japanese Naval Code was kept from him? Defending such a position boggles the mind considering the political environment of the time.

6. There were no aircraft carriers in Pearl Harbor on the day of the attack. The warships that were there were obsolete for the most part. FDR did not want to give the Japanese Navy that big of an edge by putting this country’s aircraft carriers in harm’s way.

7. The Japanese ambassador to Washington was kept waiting until after the attack began. Hence, Dec. 7 became a day of infamy rather than a declaration of war before the attack started.

The one component of the Pearl Harbor Conspiracy Theory that is never, or seldom, speculated about is the suicide of James V. Forrestal.

Forrestal’s brief biography, taken from an encyclopedia, is interesting in relation to the attack on Pearl Harbor:

“Forrestal, James Vincent (1892-1949), American banker and government official, born in Beacon, New York, and educated at Dartmouth College and Princeton University. In 1916 he joined the New York City investment firm of Dillon, Reed, and Company. He became president of the firm in 1938. Two years later Forrestal was appointed undersecretary of the navy and served in that post until 1944, when he became secretary of the navy. He was one of the chief planners of the unification of the three armed services in a single executive department of the federal government. In 1947, when unification was effected by congressional enactment, Forrestal became the first secretary of defense of the U.S. He resigned the post because of ill health early in 1949.”​

The next quote was taken from a chronology of events in 1949 and is not connected to Forrestal’s biography.

“The U.S. Defense Department is created August 10 by a retitling of the War Department under terms of the National Security Act of 1947. The first secretary of defense James V. Forrestal resigned in March with symptoms of nervous exhaustion and depression, entered Bethesda Naval Hospital, and jumped from a window there May 22, dying at age 57.”​

Note that Forrestal’s promotion to secretary of the navy in 1944 shows that he was one of FDR’s fair-haired boys. FDR did not move anyone up the ladder he did not trust completely. If there is any truth to the Pearl Harbor Conspiracy Theory, Forrestal, as under secretary of the navy at the time of the Pearl Harbor attack, must have known about it even if he disagreed with FDR’s ultimate decision. If he didn’t know about it in 1941, he may have acquired top secret information after he became secretary of the navy in ‘44, or after he became secretary of defense in 1947, that allowed him to put it all together.

Here are two purely speculative questions, if ever answered, would either prove that FDR knew, or the answers could clear up the Forrestal suicide in relation to Pearl Harbor.

1. In light of his loyalty to FDR, and subsequently FDR’s Pearl Harbor decision, was Forrestal’s depression brought on when he finally came to understand where FDR’s Socialists/Communists intended to take the country? (The U.N. was a fact of life in 1949.)

2. Was Forrestal a man of such conscience he had to commit suicide because he could no longer live with the secret of Pearl Harbor?

Nor could Forrestal blow the whistle and harm the country. An internal conflict of that magnitude would break the strongest man of conscience.

One other possibility is that New Deal Socialists/Communists murdered Forrestal because he was on the verge of telling all. Anything that would destroy FDR’s ongoing deification process would also tarnish Eleanor Roosevelt, and from there question the then-infant United Nations. Socialists would not let that happen then or now.

 

[Flanders]

I’m not saying Brennan should be blamed for 9-11, or for any of the earlier disasters, but it does seems to me that a whole lot of bad shitz happens right under his nose.

The man is a walking disaster:

Speaking today at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, D.C., Central Intelligence Agency Director John Brennan said that CIA analysts see “climate change” as a “deeper cause” of the instability seen in places like Syria, Iraq, Ukraine, Yemen and Libya.​

CIA Director Cites ‘Impact of Climate Change’ as Deeper Cause of Global Instability
By CNSNews.com Staff | November 16, 2015 | 4:29 PM EST

CIA Director Cites ‘Impact of Climate Change’ as Deeper Cause of Global Instability​

 

[Flanders]

One fact gets lost in every charge and countercharge stemming from 9-11-2001 —— Bush the Younger took the fight to the enemy when he invaded Iraq WITHOUT APPROVAL FROM THE UNITED NATIONS. That reason, and that reason alone, is why Democrats hate him.

The best thing Bush the Younger ever did was invade Iraq. Yet Democrats and their media mouthpieces still attack Bush for doing what had to be done.

In the end, this is what was said 10, 15 years ago after 9/11. We have a choice, we have to fight them there or we will fight them here. Obviously, it's happening here.​

Krauthammer: We Have To Fight Terrorists There Or Fight Them Here, Obviously It's Happening Here

The only thing that has changed is that our current president has been helping Muslims bring their fight here; most notably with United Nations Refugees. It is only going to get worse should Clinton win the election:

Clinton to Resettle One Million Muslim Migrants During First Term Alone
by Julia Hahn
14 Jul 2016
Washington D.C

Clinton to Resettle One Million Muslim Migrants During First Term​

One percent of Muslim soldiers hidden among Hillary’s one million amounts to an army of 10,000 joining up with Obama’s fifth column. That is a fair sized network that does not exist:

According to the FBI “There is no Middle Eastern terrorist network on U.S. soil.” It follows that there is no fifth column, or sleeper cells, operating in this country. Indeed, Islam’s war is being waged by a tiny fraction of Muslim terrorists and a few homegrown malcontent recruits —— if you believe the government.​

Coverups Are Not For Dilettantes

 

[Flanders]

The Clintons did not order the Wall built to “. . . prevent Watergate-style abuses of power . . .”. The Wall was built to prevent intelligence agencies from infiltrating Communist organizations:

NOTE: The current CIA Director was “. . . a daily intelligence briefer for President Clinton.”

Put this one in the NO KIDDING file:

CIA Director John Brennan voted for the Communist Party candidate in the 1976 presidential election.

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“So if back in 1980, John Brennan was allowed to say, ‘I voted for the Communist Party with Gus Hall’. . .​

CIA Director Once Voted for Communist Presidential Candidate
BY: Natalie Johnson
September 21, 2016 4:58 pm

CIA Director Once Voted for Communist Presidential Candidate​

I have to wonder how close Brennan was to the old Communist sympathizer Leon Panetta when he, Panetta, was CIA Director, and when he later became secretary of defense?

 

[Flanders]

American Communists gained respectability in the 1930s by selling the lie that Stalin was good because Hitler was so bad. In fact, the only difference between them was that Hitler fighting Soviet Communists gave him one saving grace while Stalin had none.

Another Communist Icon​

This sums it up nicely:

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“If he had admitted to voting for the Nazi Party, he would have been hounded out of everywhere. And rightly so,” argues Greenfield.

“What’s wrong is that voting for a mass murdering totalitarian ideology is just considered a whimsical act of a passionate young man. This is the pernicious double standard that has allowed the left to evade its moral responsibility for the crimes of the left.”

Obama’s CIA director voted for a Communist Party candidate
By Matthew Vadum
September 23, 2016

Obama’s CIA director voted for a Communist Party candidate​

 

[TheOldSchool]