The Use Of The Term “Fair” As Virtue-Signaling

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    :rolleyes:Spare me your ham handed attempts to put words into my mouth, K?

    That's not what I wrote and I meant EXACTLY what I wrote, what is that you don't understand? be specific and I'll attempt to put it into terms that you can comprehend.
     
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    5. As government school students are trained not to question what they are ‘taught’, they simply gloss over the suggestion that religion is based on superstition…but Marxism, socialism, and every failed Leftist iteration isn’t.

    "Republicans are still heavily enamored with capitalism, with no noticeable change since polling conducted in 2010.
    Notably, only 47% of Democrats view capitalism positively, a drop of 9 points (from 56%) in only two years."
    POLL: Democrats More Positive About Socialism Than Capitalism



    Worse than ‘superstition’…it is a perennial failure.


    "It is a great irony of communism that those who did not believe in God believed that godlike knowledge could be concentrated at a central point. It was believed that government could be omnipotent and omniscient. And in order to justify the idea that all lives should be determined by a single plan, the concomitant tendency of communist regimes was to deify the leader- whether Lenin, Stalin, Mao, or Kim Il-sung."

    Tom Bethell, "The Noblest Triumph," p. 144


    And, in fact, they don’t believe it themselves:

    “Just for fun, find a Marxist professor- who scoffs at the idea that people work less if they lose the incentive of money- how he would feel if his name were not put on the academic articles he published. Instead the articles would be published under the name of another academic who needed the recognition more than he did. After all…he would still have the satisfaction of having written the articles….His completely reasonable response would be that he earned’ the right to have his name on those articles, and denying him that measure of earned success is viciously unfair. Exactly.” Arthur Brooks, “The Road to Freedom,” p. 26.
     
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    If you've paid "REALLY close attention", then how come in your previous post you claimed that the "Chinese haven't made ANY concessions", yet in your very next post you go on to explain why you believe the concessions offered by the Chinese weren't advantageous to U.S. interests?

    You've contradicted yourself without even realizing it.
     
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    I did not say you said that. I asked you a question. That is how this works. You say something and I ask questions based upon what you said.

    I'll note, you didn't answer my question.
     
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    I guess I forgot to remove the "I was born yesterday" sticker from my forehead, don't play stupid, you asked a leading question as if it was a valid conclusion to what I posted, it's an old deflection trick that people that just had their assertions invalidated by reason attempt to use.:cool:


    Because your question was completely unrelated to what I posted in the first place, which I assume you did because I completely destroyed your simple minded assertion that Chinese-U.S. trade was a "perfect example of the free market".

    Now you want me to school you on what is and what is not a free-market capitalist which, given your affinity for avoiding admitting your obvious errors isn't worth the effort, it would just be inviting more pointless bullshit from you.
     
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    It's a simple question. You either know or you don't.


    They have something we want and we trade them money for that. Is that not how it is supposed to work?
     
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    6. There are only two choices: either the individual is in charge of his own life, or one must bend the knee and the neck to bureaucrats, special individuals imbued with the knowledge akin to God.


    "It is a great irony of communism that those who did not believe in God believed that godlike knowledge could be concentrated at a central point. It was believed that government could be omnipotent and omniscient. And in order to justify the idea that all lives should be determined by a single plan, the concomitant tendency of communist regimes was to deify the leader- whether Lenin, Stalin, Mao, or Kim Il-sung."
    Tom Bethell, "The Noblest Triumph," p. 144

    …or, Hussein, called god by the Liberals.





    Under the collectivist way: Liberalism, Socialism, Communism, Fascism, Nazism and Progressivism, the belief is that government knows best what is “fair.”



    7. “…how can we judge someone else’s economic worth? You might want bakers to be paid more than bankers. I might want teachers to be paid more than movie stars. Since we all have our own preferences, the only way to measure the economic value of a service is to see how much others are prepared to pay for it. That’s what the market does: it aggregates our preferences. It doesn’t ask us, in the abstract, what we think someone else deserves. It tests, in reality, how many hours of our own labor we are prepared to put in in exchange for a product or a service.

    Under every other economic system, our relations are mediated by accidents of birth and social caste; financial rewards are determined by favoritism. The free market alone gives everyone the same rights. My money is as good as yours.

    You can’t get fairer than that.”
    What Is "Fair"?
     
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    Biggest threat to our society is Home School where innocent children are indoctrinated to hate by untrained parent “teechers”
     
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    Being free market capitalists is actually hurting the USA in these negotiations. When XI ordered Chinese buyers to stop buying US soybeans, overnight all possible orders were cancelled. When Trump told American businesses to find other supply lines, the CEO's told Trump to go fuck himself. The difference being that in an authoritarian dictatorship, what the President says, goes. This is why Xi is able to effectively counter Trump's scattershot approach.

    The other issue is that Trump doesn't have a plan, going in. I've said it before, Trump is the worst negotiator ever. He's been fleeced on every deal he negotiated since he's been in office, and gotten NOTHING for the American people in any of his negotiations.

    Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats saved NAFTA 2.0 from being worse for American workers than the original version. Kim now has ICBM nuclear capability and a massive nuclear arsenal, and Trump got a box of bones from the Korean War, and Otto Warmbier. And then he signed a promise to pay $2 million for poor Otto - a promise he had no intention of keeping. Then he tore up the Iran deal and now the Iranians won't negotiate with him because he bargains in bad faith.
     
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