The Upcoming Battle for the American Soul

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    More aptly titled "The Battle for the Identity of the Democratic Party." They are the party without a vision, unless you count "Anybody But Bush" as a vision. Meanwhile, the GOP has a clear vision: winning the War on Terror and brining peace to America while strengthening her economy.

    BTW - have you all noticed how there is not one peep from the Left about the downhill economy? Since the economic news is so great, the Dems decided (wisely) to shut up about it. Bush should be trumpeting every good economic report from now until November as more proof that tax cuts work to stimulate the economy.
     
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    puhleeeeez! The new "The Sky is Falling" American Left. Sounds like Dean this morning.

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    The economy is great if you are a corporate executive and your pay has increased from 15% to 22% or you are wealthy and made out on 15% dividend taxes. But most people's wages are stagnant or declining and most people who lost their jobs and then finally found another are making on average. $9000 less. Tell me about this great economy and how it has helped the average working American again?



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    scant gains are not a decrease. MAY have trouble?

    The constant negativism of the left is disheartening. Our economy is doing great, and all you guys want to do is deny it. Take off your poo colored glasses.
     
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    Did you read the whole article? Real wages are decreasing. This means the meager gains are so small, they aren't even pacing inflation. That means, in essence, wages are falling.

    I was responding to this post:

    Some here seem to think the Dems have "shut up" about the economy and the news is "so great". I was demonstrating that the news isn't so great and educating you who wonder why so many people are disgruntled about the economic policies of Bush. Certainly, Bush's base, the "haves" and the "have mores", are delighted with the economy. But that's not going to cut it with the rest of us working stiffs who are tightening our belts and sending our kids to die overseas while the ultra wealthy cash in and send their kids to college.

    The stats I posted are one of the many reasons Bush is in the fight for his political life this year. If more working class people who support Bush understand who he caters to, the corporate world and the wealthy, they would think twice about giving him their vote. Unfortunately, people like gop_jeff don't understand that the "booming economy" is selective in who is benefitting from it. Either that or he is one of the ultra wealthy trying to deceive us.
     
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    Oh sure the Billionaire Kerry's and the Millionaire Edwards' are the "champions" of the working stiff............. :lame2:
     
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    Again, the assumption of stupidity of the 'unwashed masses'. :bs1:
     
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    Yes. It is puzzling why such wealthy men wouldn't shut up and enjoy their massive tax breaks. Why on earth would they raise their own taxes and let the bulk of the country keep their tax cuts?

    Maybe it's because they are committed to serving the public and the greater good. I can think of no other reason why a wealthy person would not support Bush, can you? I mean, they will LOSE money rolling back the tax cuts for those who make more than $200K a year.

    Think about that.
     
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    Your ignorance shows once again.

    Because most small businesses are S corporations, their tax structure is such that the "profits" of the corporation flow through to the owner at individual tax rates. So let us say that an owner pays himself a salary of $50,000 a year. Now, let us say that at the end of the year the corporation has a profit of $150,000 which is REINVESTED into the corporation. Well, the owner now pays tax on $200,000 even though he only received, in actual compensation, $50,000. Now go tell me that EVERYBODY that is making over $200,000 are rich greedy bastards. Why don't you at least try and grasp the concept of owning a business before spouting off about shit you know nothing about?
     

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