The universe is a creation

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    ... but free for everyone to enjoy, if they decide to.

    The universe is a creation - a knol by Thomas Deflo
     
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    The universe is a creation
    Life out of chaos

    Scientific proof exists in support of an artificially created universe. Gravitation detection and quantum physics provide evidence for this. The question remains: is this universe precoded from the start, or does it allow free will?

    Deflo, Thomas
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    Holograph literally means 'all written', from the Greek holo: all + graphein: to write. The word 'holographical' historically meant 'wholly written by the person in whose name it appears'. A holograph letter could be a legally drafted will, or a personal letter.


    Holograms occur frequently in everyday life. You find them edged on credit cards or banknotes. As light bounces off them, a 3D image surfaces.


    20th century science has ascertained that the universe responds to the holographic principle[1], but is also chaotic, in other words non-deterministic. Are we talking of a predetermined hologram, or are we inhabiting a universe in which nothing is precalculated, where free will genuinely has an influence?


    Werner Heisenberg wrote in 1927 that it is impossible to determine simultaneously both the position and velocity of an electron, or any other particle of light[2]. This showed us something about the submicroscopic fundament of the universe: that it is unpredictable. Energy exists in an unstable way: quantum fluctuations which make up nuclei of atoms resonate and decay almost instantaneously[3]. "Probability densities for wave-particle dualities", physicists call them, because the universe, in its finest of energies, can not be analyzed nor predicted.


    John Von Neumann would describe these energetic fluctuations as the result of a potentially infinite combination of dimensions[4]. While this description might be true, and workable for quantum physicists, it does not account for the uncertainty which Heisenberg observed.

    From these unpredictable quantum fluctuations, molecular combinations arise to make life possible. In the study of these molecular combinations, we see that the irregular quantum physical states facilitate the formation of hydrogen, carbon, oxygen. The universe must have been devised by formulas which, despite the unpredictable energy, somehow led to life. This happened in an evolutionary way, over long stretches of time, through many biological bifurcations -- which is a sign of unpredictability in the advent of life.


    At the macroscopic level, we see that the universe keeps behaving in indeterministic ways. The three- or n-body problem, means that the position of astronomical bodies versus each other is only to be known by approximation. The position of three or more bodies over long stretches of time (eg. 100 000 years) is unpredictable. Specific solutions to this problem result in chaotic motion with no obvious sign of repetitious paths[5]. This again reveals indeterministic aspects of the universe.


    In all, the universe is composed of a sheer infinite number of dimensions, time, a base foundation of unpredictable energy, and temperature instabilities which allow life to flourish, and then consciousness, and free will. Individuals are free from predetermination, unlike the holographic principle would suggest. The goal of the creator was to make a universe in which chaos, not cosmos, exists.

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    Post scriptum
    Unfortunately, jealousy made opponents of this creator commit treacherous acts on his planet of origin -- Earth. Earthlings used to like the universe, but were influenced fundamentally to dislike it. Catholics such as the Knights Templar, Islamics who used to be genuinely religious, and others, were pushed into hatred for God and their own life. They were made to disrespect themselves.

    It becomes clear that his opponents tried to destroy his creation out of jealousy. They did this by means of a machine. The machine destroyed the dimensional structure of the universe and replaced it with precoded holograms. The two opponents are known here as John von Neumann and George Herbert Walker Bush, who are really from God's civilization.

    The universe is a creation. Still, it is for everyone to decide whether they want to enjoy it or not.
     
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    There is no proof for a natural universe. If bad thoughts linger about the holographic universe, it is therefore best to ignore them.

    (T.D.)
     
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    The universe is a creation
    Life out of chaos

    Scientific proof exists in support of an artificially created universe. Gravitation detection and quantum physics provide evidence for this. The question remains: do we live in a universe which is precoded from the start, or does it allow us to form free will?

    Holograph literally means 'all written', from the Greek holo: all + graphein: to write. The word 'holographical' historically meant 'wholly written by the person in whose name it appears'. A holograph letter could be a legally drafted will, or a personal letter.

    Holograms occur frequently in everyday life. You find them edged on credit cards or banknotes. As light bounces off them, a 3D image surfaces.

    20th century science has ascertained that the universe responds to the holographic principle[1], but is also chaotic, in other words non-deterministic. Are we talking about a predetermined hologram, or are we inhabiting a universe in which nothing is precalculated, where free will genuinely exists?

    Werner Heisenberg wrote in 1927 that it is impossible to determine simultaneously both the position and velocity of an electron, or any other particle of light[2]. This showed us something about the submicroscopic fundament of the universe: that it is unpredictable. Energy exists in an unstable way: quantum fluctuations which make up nuclei of atoms resonate and decay almost instantaneously[3]. "Probability densities for wave-particle dualities", physicists call them, knowing that the universe, in its finest of energies, can not be analyzed nor predicted.

    John Von Neumann would describe these energetic fluctuations as the result of a potentially infinite combination of dimensions[4]. While this description might be true, and workable for quantum physicists, it does not account for the uncertainty which Heisenberg observed. Unpredictability on a subatomic level remains.

    At the macroscopic level, we see that the universe keeps behaving in the same indeterministic ways. The three- or n-body problem, for instance, indicates that the position of astronomical bodies versus each other is only to be known by approximation[7]. The position of three or more interrelated bodies over long stretches of time (eg. a 100 000 years) becomes unpredictable. Charted solutions to this problem result in chaotic motion with no visible sign of repetition.

    The universe is a chaos, not a cosmos. To watch the universe through the small size of a coin held at a distance of 74 feet, we see hundreds of galaxies with over 400 billion stars and even more planets. Spontaneous evolution of life occurs wherever possible -- contrary to the belief that life must be seeded, or "engineered". The diversity in types of lifeforms out of biological evolution is unknown. Evolution of the physical universe, over long stretches of time, through many bifurcations, brings the advent of life. Where suitable conditions exist, chemical complexity will arise and develop into organic combinations that can reproduce and become even more complex. Ecological niches, eg. biotopes of a rainforest, were driven by chaotic interactions between life and its surroundings[5]. Surprising creatures surface out of this, as in deep oceanic life[6]. The universe might be a creation, but it is dynamic, full of unpredictability. The holographic principle doesn't apply to it.

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    Post scriptum 1

    There is no proof of a natural universe. If negative thoughts linger about our universe, it is therefore best to ignore them.
    If you hate the universe, the only consistent thing to do is to take yourself out of it.

    Post scriptum 2

    It could be that we find ourselves in an operation to prevent the Von Neumann device from existing. An operation in which I was given a God identity.
     
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    All theory.
    Just like the theory of evoloution.
    A Trace of fact and the rest theory.
     
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    The universe is created by God as is the Earth and all life on it. It is a matter of faith. Science has been trying to disprove God for years. Even Darwin said that to prove evolution you have to find the missing link, hasn't been done. Evolution is a theory. Too many people take it as fact, it isn't.
     
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    Science has never tried to disprove God.
    However, there is a long history of religion ignoring science.
    There is no geologic proof anywhere on earth of a great flood. That is a myth.
    You can believe it all you want but your beliefs do not make it fact. There is scientific proof of evolution all in nature. Evolution is adaptation of species.
    Gravity is also a theory. Go climb on your roof and jump head first on the concrete and tell us if that scientific theory is well tested or not.
    Evolution is the same. Scientific theory is different than crime theory or other forms of theory.
    Religion is a belief and not subject to scientific methods or testing.
    You can never disprove my religous beliefs. I can never disprove your religous beliefs.
    That is the difference. Beliefs are untestable.
     
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    Beliefs should be consistent. Satanism says that the universe is despicable because it is artificial. The universe is indeed artificial. However, it is chaotic.
     
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    So the Big Bang Theory is a belief because it's untestable?
     
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    I wouldn't agree that beliefs are untestable. The Lord has promised that if we seek Him with all our heart and soul, we will find Him. (Deut 4:29) He is God, He knows when we are sincere or not. This isn't the same as "testing" God Himself, but it is 100% truth when someone is truly seeking for the truth, He will show them. (And that means the "correct" and only God) Also people (mostly) at the time they are seeking they are ready to repent of believing in other "false gods."

    Also, when we see all around us the prophecies of our Lord Jesus Christ / Gods Word that have passed, are passing, and will pass.


    Any of the above that Jesus said (in Matthew Chapter 24) sound familiar?


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    Evolution isn't about disproving God, but figuring out how God created the world. Life apparently evolved from from simpler forms or you'd have to say God lied to us in the fossil record!!! What Darwin may or may not have said, doesn't disprove evolution, nor does the fact that we haven't found every last fossil yet. We all know that evolution is a theory. That, however, doesn't mean "guess", as creationists would have you believe, but a well-reasoned treatise backed by years of data from a multitude of sources.
     
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    Nobody knows for certain how the universe was created. Some theories/ideas make more sense than others though.
     
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    John 14:6
     
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    I really look a God as the biggest sciencetist out there. when you look at all the things he did in the bible, you can show how it is scientifically correct. the bible says he threw the stars and planets out, and science says a explosion happened; science goes along with God.

    and it is not just a thory or a idea, it is trully "faith"
     
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    Well satan has been wrong from the beginning of time, and will be wrong in the end when he is thrown into the pit.
     
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    Quite frankly, this is total and complete bullshit. Where does gravitation and quantum physics provide evidence for a created universe? I would doubt that you understand quantum physics if you believe that it somehow provides for a created universe. A creator is a belief not to be confused with scientific theories.

    This is actually not true at all. Believe it or not, quantum physics does not say that the end result is not determined or unpredictable. This is a rather common misconception of the way it works. What it does say is that as you narrow the observations from infinite to ever smaller or shorter intervals the end result becomes less and less predictable.
    I would question whether or not that is due to lack of total information. I would tend to lean in that direction as we know very little about the universe and the interstellar bodies that inhibit it.
    I see many citations in your post (eg. brackets with a number in them [X] ) but I do not see any notations that would explain them. I get the distinct feeling that this is a cut and paste job and if so, please post the link here so we can see the post in its entirety. Plagiarizing is wrong and also against the rules here at USMB. If I am mistaken, I apologize in advance.
     
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    Man cannot figure out how God created life, he has been trying for years. It is for God alone to know.
     
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    Of course, the Greeks believed the same could be said of thunder and lightning but we all know how that turned out.
     
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    Holograph literally means 'all written', from the Greek holo: all + graphein: to write. The word 'holographical' historically meant 'wholly written by the person in whose name it appears'. A holograph letter could be a legally drafted will, or a personal letter.

    Holograms occur frequently in everyday life. You find them edged on credit cards or banknotes. As light bounces off a two-dimensional surface, the impression of a three-dimensional image appears.

    If we are analogous to a hologram on a credit card, the question could be asked: are we inhabiting a precoded hologram, or a chaotic hologram, in which free will exists?

    20th century science culminates in the understanding that the universe responds to the holographic principle. Gravitation detection has ascertained that the universe dissolves into "grains": .
    Quantum physics previously exposed the universe as an energetic 'upwelling' from a bottom sheet -- similar to projected holograms we encounter in everyday life.

    It's impossible to determine both the position and velocity of a quantum of energy[3], like an electron. The n-body problem indicates that the position of astronomical objects is only known by approximation[4]. Future predictions are falsifiable when individuals decide different than what is predicted.

    Therefore, thanks to the chaotic reality of the universe, self-conscious beings have free will.

    References
    1. Wikipedia,
    Holographic principle
    2. Marcus Chown, Our World May Be a Giant Hologram, New Scientist, 15 January 2009, via
    Scribd
    3. Wikipedia,
    Uncertainty principle
    4. Wikipedia,
    Three body probkem
     

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