The United States and Israel are in Real Trouble

Discussion in 'Israel and Palestine' started by David2004, Jan 23, 2006.

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    The Jewish people are one of the smallest in numbers of people yet they are one of the most powerful groups of people in the world.
    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/jewpop.html The Jewish people great wealth and power is well known worldwide. The Jewish people being so educated and affluent in the world making the Palestinian-Israeli Crisis more complex and harder to solve. With approximately 1/3 of the Jewish population in Israel and 1/3 in the United States and the other 1/3 of the Jewish people around the rest of the world.

    As Jesus Christ is to the Christians and Mohammad is to the Muslims, the Jewish State of Israel is to the Jewish people for they were a people with no nation. One can’t question the religious beliefs and traditions of another without a conflict and or becoming ones enemy. Great wealth has been made by many Jewish families around the world with so much of their wealth going to Israel. The political spectrum of the Jewish community is very broad coving all side including Palestinian-Israel Crisis. Today many of the Pro Palestinian Jewish groups are far better organized and stronger than many of their Arab counterparts.

    The Holy Land the crown jewel of the worlds greatest empires. The Old City of Jerusalem the center of so many conflicts throughout history that were mostly created by outsiders. The United States, Great Britain and France are greatly responsible for the current conditions in the Middle East. Whether it is the bounders or leaders of Arab nations, the oil deals or the creation of the Jewish State of Israel the western nations through the United Nations imposed it upon the people of the Middle East. Today in the Middle East and Holy Land the level of tension and conflict is spiraling out of control because of amount of misinformation that leads to mistrust on both sides.

    The United State and the rest of the industrial world are in real trouble with their energy policies and current ways. Economies built on consumption with little regard for the environment and non-renewable natural resources. How one obtains wealth (tangible) and security (non-tangible) is not one of the same. As history has proven the most advanced military forces can’t secure unfair and inhumane policies over another people for long without leading to war. The United States government military spending is about 1/3 of the whole world combined with the State of Israel spending almost nine billion dollars a year. The following two CIA charts show the problems the United States and the State of Israel has in trying to defend policies that are unfair and inhumane.

    http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/mil_exp_dol_fig

    http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/mil_exp_dol_fig_percap

    The amount of money the State of Israel and the United States spend every year on the military is immoral in its self.
     
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    Gee David, think education and wealth might somehow be connected?
     
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    The only reason Israel is not considered a rogue nation by the United States is because they are our allied. Any other nation that was not our allied that met the same criteria would be considered a terrorist’s nation. Today the United States is looking and acting more like Israel and Iran. The United States is pushing its economic, political and religious policies onto other nation’s people. For the United States and the State of Israel to preemptively attack another nation in the name of their national security is the hypocrisy. Because if any other nation does anything similar that is not our allied it is considered an act of terrorism and an act of war.

    Having the biggest and strongest military forces does not make you right. Imposing your ways and beliefs onto others with military forces most often makes you wrong. They’re are far and few cases in the history of the world that the dominating global military empires used their military force for the greater good of mankind. Most often empires use their military forces to protect and serve their own self-interest.

    Today the world is at a global crossroad where the supply of crude oil can hardly keep up with global demands. The United States and its industrial allies consume the greatest amounts of the global crude oil while holding the smallest amounts of the oil reserves within their nations boarders. As the people of India and China (over 1/3 the world’s population) compete for the dwindling global oil supply the international tension rise. Most of the Middle Eastern oil reserves are in the control of a few families who need the protection and sanctity of the western military powers to remain in control.

    As the international demand of oil broadens the formal of the United States National Security must change to keep up with the realities of the international community of nations. Israel must do the same thing if it ever what’s to be recognized and respected by the international community of nations. The creation of the Jewish State of Israel by the United Nations i.e. (United States, Britain, and France) was mostly self-serving. Many nations at the end of World War II did not want any more Jewish refugees in their country. The creation of the Jewish State of Israel gave the Jewish people a homeland for the first time in the modern history. This has been a thorn in the Arab world that over shadow the oil deals between the people of the Middle East and the West. The creation of Israel created news that kept the operation of Middle Eastern oil deals out of the headline news. With much of the anger Middle Eastern people focused on Israel the oil companies could do business as usual.

    The military industrial complex also greatly profited in the creation of the State of Israel. On a large part because of Israel the Middle East today is one of largest markets for the military industrial complex. The sales of military weapons to protect one from the other are flourishing in the Middle East creating a goldmine for the military industrial complex. Any time the military industrial complex and big oil have a common interest there will be trouble at the end.
     
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    Why, because they retaliate with their military when suicide bombers hit them?


    Perhaps you could be a bit more specific than making blanket statements.

    That might be because we don't rape and pillage our neighboring countries, nor do we threaten to wipe an entire people off the map. But, point taken.

    Having the biggest and strongest military also doesn't make us wrong. I wasn't aware that we "impose our beliefs" on others with military force, we fight armys/terrorists with our military. We fight the ideas of those idiots with the idea that democracy, freedom, and governments accountable for their own actions is better for the world. As for the far and few cases in history of a dominating military doing good for the world, you are right....there hasn't been many cases. But if you look at US history....and our war with Japan...Germany...Afganistan, you will see that we did not just conquer those countries and claim them as our own. We changed them into free coutnries that prospered. And stable, free countries that prosper is in our self interest.

    Yes I agree.


    yea, don'cha just wish those dirty jews would just fall into the ocean and begone forever!
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    That might be because hordes of terrorists are trying to kill them at all times.
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