The Union Army's odd infatuation with a criminal they hanged

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    There were about a dozen less defended arsenals south of the Mason Dixon line in the pre civil war years and it would be logical to foment a slave revolution in the deep south rather than Harper's Ferry. Did Brown think he could organize a slave revolution when nobody knew about it or cared on the border of northern Virginia and Maryland? Was it a suicide mission to make a political statement? If that's the case it worked fine.
     
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    It threw the south into a panic that their humble servants would rise up and kill them. Helped push them to secede
     
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    Is that the theory? The maniac and his 18 followers armed with pikes and swords thought they could take a Union Arsenal on the Va. Md. border to encourage South Carolina to secede? The Union Army hanged the bastard. There was no panic except in the little town of Harper's Ferry that lost it's mayor and half a dozen of it's citizens. The strange thing is that the Union Army turned Brown into a hero after they executed him. A relatively popular actor by the name of John Wilkes Booth was allegedly in the audience at the hanging.
     
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    Yeah but John Brown gave his life for Black people to be free. That is an unpardonable sin to other whites.
     
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    Nope. It was the US Marines. Lee never was in command of any Union army. Also the state of Virginia hanged John Brown. If it was the Union Army like you claim you would have provided some proof like I did.
     
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    He gave a couple of other lives to boot. Did (does) the end justify the means? Brown was a maniac. Everyone agrees and the Union military dragged him on a scaffold and hanged him. Maybe the media at the time turned him into a hero and poor old Abe who couldn't seem to deal with the crisis other than "allowing" states to leave the Union seemed to need some sort of symbol to justify the murder of other innocent Americans who never heard of John Brown. The little ditty apparently sounded good around Union campfires while Southern farmers were systematically hanged for resisting the pillage and rape.
     
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    Interesting historical tidbit, the Union Officer in charge of retaking the arsenal was Colonel Robert E. Lee.
     
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    Lee was in overall command of military units tasked to retake the arsenal
    . John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry - Wikipedia
     
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    You do realise that Lincoln offered Lee command of the Union Army.
     
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    That doesnt change the fact it was called the US Marines and not the Union Army. Says so in your own link.

    "Brown's party of 22[ was defeated by a company of U.S. Marines, led by First Lieutenant Israel Greene.[3] Colonel Robert E. Lee was in overall command of the operation to retake the arsenal."
     
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