The ultimate vindication of Republican supply-side economics

EdwardBaiamonte

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Our economy would boom if BO eliminated the corporate tax altogether as Ireland proved by just lowering it. Its the ultimate vindication of supply-side economics.
 
Our economy would boom if BO eliminated the corporate tax altogether as Ireland proved by just lowering it. Its the ultimate vindication of supply-side economics.

Your premise is exactly the part of Cain's 9-9-9 plan that seems intuitive to me.....

The great irony is that Democrats cant eliminate the destructive tax because their base has been brainwashed by Marxism to hate corporations and to at least punish them with taxes
 
Our economy would boom if BO eliminated the corporate tax altogether as Ireland proved by just lowering it. Its the ultimate vindication of supply-side economics.

Ireland currenly has 15% unemployment and a economy that is 15% below its peak and its still in recession, not to menion America already has one fo the lowers corporate taxes sin the world.
But dont let facts get in the way of conservative stupidity
 
Ireland currenly has 15% unemployment and a economy that is 15% below its peak and its still in recession,

Actually, Europe is in recession because of financial crisis, not because of low Irish corporate taxes. OMG!!


not to menion America already has one fo the lowers corporate taxes sin the world.

Actually even BO, the world's champion of high taxes , called for lowering the rate to competitive levels in the State of the Union


But dont let facts get in the way of conservative stupidity


see why we are positive a liberal will be slow? What other conclusion is possible. Please, I'm begging you, tell me?
 
Our economy would boom if BO eliminated the corporate tax altogether as Ireland proved by just lowering it. Its the ultimate vindication of supply-side economics.

Ireland currenly has 15% unemployment and a economy that is 15% below its peak and its still in recession, not to menion America already has one fo the lowers corporate taxes sin the world.
But dont let facts get in the way of conservative stupidity

Edward: Our economy would boom if BO eliminated the corporate tax altogether as Ireland proved by just lowering it. Its the ultimate vindication of supply-side economics.

Starcraftzzz : Ireland currenly has 15% unemployment and a economy that is 15% below its peak and its still in recession.

Edward: Europe is in recession because of financial crisis, not because of low Irish corporate taxes.

Sometimes, we run across something that is simply self explanatory. No manner of explanation should be necessary to explain why this is an insane reply.

It is simply some form of mental illness. It is some sort of disconnect from reality that is simply inconceivable to people of normal reason. It seems, sometimes, that they are attracted to the Republican party.

It begins with that he knows that lowering business taxes must result in increase in hiring. Everything follows from that. Even the completely insane response, "Europe is in recession because of financial crisis, not because of low Irish corporate taxes."

It is a complete non-sequiter.

50% of adults have a below average IQ, reading level, and grasp on reality. They are capable of using language, but there is something structurally wrong with their brain. By definition of average, this is factual. So you have to wonder, where are those 50%?

I've seen this with someone that suffered brain damage due to an automobile collision. The recollection of events has no bearing on what actually happened. Instead, the driving force is the feeling of what must be true. Frontal lobe damage disconnected the feedback.

Thought begins in the thalamus and hippo-campus which organizes memory. The cerebral cortex, that big part of the head above the eyebrows, then further processes the information.

Without the higher order processing, the past is picked through, parts of events are strung together, skipping what which doesn't fit the predetermined "truth". Higher order reasoning doesn't apply. The cerebral cortex doesn't take precedence in thinking, rather it is used to validate and support the emotional reasoning, if it is used at all.

It can also be due to a chemical imbalance, or sever emotional trauma in childhood.

This is why he sees no problem with replying "Europe is in recession because of financial crisis, not because of low Irish corporate taxes." To him, this response makes total sense.

You and I cannot understand how he got there, how that is suppose to make sense. It doesn't have logic and reason to it. It is simply the response, and the way to string the words together, that elicit the feeling he needs to maintain.

There is no higher order reasoning or imagery. Stringing the words together into a sentence is sufficient. He hears them, and they make total sense to him. There is no error checking, no external feedback.

You can tell he has cut off external feedback by his labeling and rejection of anything that doesn't support his insanity. At least half of his statements are nothing more than subjective emotional responses, "Democrats", "destructive", "brainwashed", "Marxism", "hate", "punish" , "liberal", "slow". They are all words that apply a subjective quality but no objective measure. They have feeling for him.

The fact that Ireland has 15% unemployment and a economy that is 15% below its peak is an objective measure. That is just as well rejected because it is external feedback.

:cuckoo:

Notice the difference between that and how we see it.

Time 0: unknown cause Time 1: Global recession. Time 2: Ireland has 15% unemployment and 85% utilization Time 3: Ireland lowers corporate taxes Time 4: Ireland has 15% unemployment and 85% utilization.

Something caused a global recession. This led to 85% utilization in Ireland. This led to Ireland lowering taxes. This hasn't changed anything. No vindication. If employment rises globally, including Ireland, it won't be vindication because of a lack of correlation.

Yes sir, you are looking at some sort of mental illness. Isn't it morbidly interesting? Doesn't it make you just shake your head, slowly back away, then run screaming for the hills? It is the exact correct response.
 
Our economy would boom if BO eliminated the corporate tax altogether as Ireland proved by just lowering it. Its the ultimate vindication of supply-side economics.

Your premise is exactly the part of Cain's 9-9-9 plan that seems intuitive to me.....

It also makes intuitive sense to someone that

-the world is flat. If it was round and spinning, we would all fly off into space.

-earth is the center of the universe and the sun, planets and stars revolve around it.

-witches don't drown so if you hold a person under water and they drown, they are not a witch.

-time flows exactly the same no matter where we are or how fast you are moving.

-all numbers can be represented by a fraction.

-that if you raise the price of something, you will make less money because you sell less.

-that a house which lists for $990,000 will sell more quickly then one that lists for $1,000,000.

-that you are saving money when you buy things on sale.

-that Thor, the god of lightning, throws bolts of lighting at the ground to punish people.

-if you sacrifice a goat to the gods or do a rain dance, then the gods will bring rain and your crops will flourish.

-that the cold feeling that you get in an old house is a ghost.

-that clouds are full of helium.

-that Friday the 13th is an unlucky day.

-that the slot machine is "due" to pay off.

History and life is full of "intuitive" things that are absolutely incorrect.

This is why logic and reasoning skills were developed, are taught, and have to be practiced. Because "intuition" doesn't lead to sound conclusions.

Cain's plan was 9-9-9-0. He left out the zero part. The zero part is his tax rate on capital gains. Cain makes the majority of his income from capital gains.

When a company has customers that want to buy stuff, they then hire someone to do the work, sell the produce and collect the money, they pay the person two weeks after they were hired.

If a company has demand that is untapped, they borrow money, called leverage, so that they can invest in capital equipment or materials. This works when there is excess demand. It doesn't work when the economy is at full output. It doesn't work when the economy is floundering at the bottom with high unemployment.
 
Our economy would boom if BO eliminated the corporate tax altogether as Ireland proved by just lowering it. Its the ultimate vindication of supply-side economics.

Ireland currenly has 15% unemployment and a economy that is 15% below its peak and its still in recession, not to menion America already has one fo the lowers corporate taxes sin the world.
But dont let facts get in the way of conservative stupidity



Starcraftzzz : Ireland currenly has 15% unemployment and a economy that is 15% below its peak and its still in recession.

Edward: Europe is in recession because of financial crisis, not because of low Irish corporate taxes.

Sometimes, we run across something that is simply self explanatory. No manner of explanation should be necessary to explain why this is an insane reply.

It is simply some form of mental illness. It is some sort of disconnect from reality that is simply inconceivable to people of normal reason. It seems, sometimes, that they are attracted to the Republican party.

It begins with that he knows that lowering business taxes must result in increase in hiring. Everything follows from that. Even the completely insane response, "Europe is in recession because of financial crisis, not because of low Irish corporate taxes."

It is a complete non-sequiter.

50% of adults have a below average IQ, reading level, and grasp on reality. They are capable of using language, but there is something structurally wrong with their brain. By definition of average, this is factual. So you have to wonder, where are those 50%?

I've seen this with someone that suffered brain damage due to an automobile collision. The recollection of events has no bearing on what actually happened. Instead, the driving force is the feeling of what must be true. Frontal lobe damage disconnected the feedback.

Thought begins in the thalamus and hippo-campus which organizes memory. The cerebral cortex, that big part of the head above the eyebrows, then further processes the information.

Without the higher order processing, the past is picked through, parts of events are strung together, skipping what which doesn't fit the predetermined "truth". Higher order reasoning doesn't apply. The cerebral cortex doesn't take precedence in thinking, rather it is used to validate and support the emotional reasoning, if it is used at all.

It can also be due to a chemical imbalance, or sever emotional trauma in childhood.

This is why he sees no problem with replying "Europe is in recession because of financial crisis, not because of low Irish corporate taxes." To him, this response makes total sense.

You and I cannot understand how he got there, how that is suppose to make sense. It doesn't have logic and reason to it. It is simply the response, and the way to string the words together, that elicit the feeling he needs to maintain.

There is no higher order reasoning or imagery. Stringing the words together into a sentence is sufficient. He hears them, and they make total sense to him. There is no error checking, no external feedback.

You can tell he has cut off external feedback by his labeling and rejection of anything that doesn't support his insanity. At least half of his statements are nothing more than subjective emotional responses, "Democrats", "destructive", "brainwashed", "Marxism", "hate", "punish" , "liberal", "slow". They are all words that apply a subjective quality but no objective measure. They have feeling for him.

The fact that Ireland has 15% unemployment and a economy that is 15% below its peak is an objective measure. That is just as well rejected because it is external feedback.

:cuckoo:

Notice the difference between that and how we see it.

Time 0: unknown cause Time 1: Global recession. Time 2: Ireland has 15% unemployment and 85% utilization Time 3: Ireland lowers corporate taxes Time 4: Ireland has 15% unemployment and 85% utilization.

Something caused a global recession. This led to 85% utilization in Ireland. This led to Ireland lowering taxes. This hasn't changed anything. No vindication. If employment rises globally, including Ireland, it won't be vindication because of a lack of correlation.

Yes sir, you are looking at some sort of mental illness. Isn't it morbidly interesting? Doesn't it make you just shake your head, slowly back away, then run screaming for the hills? It is the exact correct response.

Pardon?
 
Our economy would boom if BO eliminated the corporate tax altogether as Ireland proved by just lowering it. Its the ultimate vindication of supply-side economics.

I thought the average effective corporate tax rate was only around 17% in the US.
Have I been misinformed?

Ireland may not be the best example you could have used.
 
Our economy would boom if BO eliminated the corporate tax altogether as Ireland proved by just lowering it. Its the ultimate vindication of supply-side economics.


:lol:


We're enjoying the outcome of about 30 years of supply-sider economic policies, right now, Champ.

How that' worked out for us since 2007?
 
Our economy would boom if BO eliminated the corporate tax altogether as Ireland proved by just lowering it. Its the ultimate vindication of supply-side economics.

And think of the boon to the economy if America just eliminated all taxes, well not the people-taxes but all corporate and business taxes. That could become a new economic law. Lower taxes and get out of the way, the money will pour into the coffers.
 
Our economy would boom if BO eliminated the corporate tax altogether as Ireland proved by just lowering it. Its the ultimate vindication of supply-side economics.

And think of the boon to the economy if America just eliminated all taxes, well not the people-taxes but all corporate and business taxes. That could become a new economic law. Lower taxes and get out of the way, the money will pour into the coffers.

...and what many do not understand is that lowering taxes on corporations lowers the price of the corporate goods and services. The money it takes to cover the corporate tax payment is included in the price of the corporate product.

CORPORATIONS DO NOT PAY TAXES! PEOPLE THAT BUY FROM CORPORATIONS PAY TAXES FOR THEM!!
 
Our economy would boom if BO eliminated the corporate tax altogether as Ireland proved by just lowering it. Its the ultimate vindication of supply-side economics.

This statement is based on what economic evidence. Proven cause and effect please, not some unconfirmed theory.
 
CORPORATIONS DO NOT PAY TAXES! PEOPLE THAT BUY FROM CORPORATIONS PAY TAXES FOR THEM!!

That's a good thing, right? You do understand that the purpose of a tax code is to generate revenue and a good tax code generates the most revenue by taxing equitably.....

Yes? You get that, right? And a tax that generated the most revenue by taking from the consumers of the most profitable corporations seems like a very good idea to me.

But then again, I think taxes are inevitably necessary and I don't sit around trying to convince the world that no one should have to pay them.

Do you do that?
 
That's a good thing, right? You do understand that the purpose of a tax code is to generate revenue and a good tax code generates the most revenue by taxing equitably...


the corporate tax is hugely wasteful since corps are forced to make tax decisions rather than economic efficiency decisions. GE for example has 1000 people working on the 276 LB. return, pays no tax anyway, and is forced, among other things, to move jobs abroad and do other stupid things.

And all to pander to perfectly ignorant liberals who feel the tax is a way to punish evil corporations. You tell them the tax is passed on like any other cost and they get confused like a dog trying to do math.
 
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Ireland currenly has 15% unemployment and a economy that is 15% below its peak and its still in recession,

Actually, Europe is in recession because of financial crisis, not because of low Irish corporate taxes. OMG!!
Hey dubass i wasnt talking about Europe I was talking ad.ut Ireland.


not to menion America already has one fo the lowers corporate taxes sin the world.
Actually even BO, the world's champion of high taxes , called for lowering the rate to competitive levels in the State of the Union
No he called for making it more simple removing deductions and using those savings to lower the rate.
Also not that Obama as a net has decreased taxes, meaning again you are 100% wrong and just a dumbass
 
That's a good thing, right? You do understand that the purpose of a tax code is to generate revenue and a good tax code generates the most revenue by taxing equitably...


the corporate tax is hugely wasteful since corps are forced to make tax decisions rather than economic efficiency decisions. GE for example has 1000 people working on the 276 LB. return, pays no tax anyway, and is forced, among other things, to move jobs abroad and do other stupid things.

And all to pander to perfectly ignorant liberals who feel the tax is a way to punish evil corporations. You tell them the tax is passed on like any other cost and they get confused like a dog trying to do math.

That is why Obama Is proposing to remove deductions loopholes and other things that make it so you have to have so many accountants to do your taxes
 
Ireland currenly has 15% unemployment and a economy that is 15% below its peak and its still in recession,

Actually, Europe [or Ireland] is in recession because of financial crisis, not because of low Irish corporate taxes. OMG!!

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Hey dubass i wasnt talking about Europe I was talking ad.ut Ireland.

catching on now?


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not to menion America already has one fo the lowers corporate taxes sin the world.

if so then you can bet BO would be the last one to want to lower it to competitive levels. He does want to lower it, of course


Actually even BO, the world's champion of high taxes , called for lowering the rate to competitive levels in the State of the Union

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No he called for making it more simple removing deductions and using those savings to lower the rate.

sorry dear but lowering the rate is lowering the tax

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Also not that Obama as a net has decreased taxes, meaning again you are 100% wrong and just a dumbass


as a net has decreased taxes???? what subject do you think you are on??? Do you have any idea??
 
That is why Obama Is proposing to remove deductions loopholes and other things that make it so you have to have so many accountants to do your taxes

a tiny step in right direction but its best to eliminate tax altogether since it, like all costs, is mere passed on to consumers.

BO knows liberals lack the IQ to grasp that so panders to their pure ignorance and keeps the tax
 

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