The UK's house of Lords.

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    I have been working with a guy from the UK a lot lately. He has been here 14 years and is a "permanant legal resident".

    The other day we were talking politics. We got on the subject of the UK parliament and I stated that many Americans have a hard time getting their head around the house of Lords. We do not see the merits of Legislators that are not elected but instead inherit the right to be one by birth alone. I then asked why the People of the UK have not done away with that throw back to A forgotten age yet.

    He responded that the House of Lords can over rule anything the lower house passes therefore it will never be Abolished. Which I was unaware of.

    Anyways what do you people think of the UK's house or Lords?
     
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    i think of the kenedys. :lol:
     
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    I think people inheriting Positions like that is not much better than Racism. It is basically assuming they are qualified to lead by birth alone.
     
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    For the record, the House of Lords is no longer a 'birth right' position. That was scraped years ago.

    How do you become a Member of the House of Lords? - UK Parliament
     
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoTIvSZpdFA"]The House of Plebs[/ame]
     
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    And the Bushes...and some would love to see the Clintons....;)
     
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    The House of Lords is part of the British Parliament.

    As the formula declares "The King (Queen) in Parliament" as sovereign (in contrast to the republican "We the people..."), the House of Lords is part of the sovereign.

    As a chamber of the UK parliament it can only reject a proposed bill by the Commons, but this can be overruled by the House of Commons.

    The House of Lords will be reformed, one way or the other, in the future.

    Still, as not only hereditary Lords are sitting in the Lords, but also High State officials, the highest Judges (Law Lords), the HoL was a kind of last instance law court (as parliaments in Europe were since medivial times).

    So, to the Lords are a relict of former times, but still had recently an important function as a kind of Supreme Court.
    Since the last reform in 2006, there is a Supreme Court of the United Kingdom.

    Just to add up some disorientation, Scotland has it´s own Supreme Court (but only for criminal cases as far as I know).

    Debated are - for a reform of the HoL- a system like a Senate in the US or a Bundesrat like in Germany (the latter represents not the population of a federal state, but the government of the federal state).

    So, as the whole political system in the UK reflects an evolutionary process, this explains some pretty strange concepts.
    So to say, the political system of the US is a proof for Intelligent Design, the system in the UK is a proof of progress by evolution. :razz:

    God save the Queen

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    The House of Lords has already been reformed.
     

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