The U.S. cost of supporting Israel

[docmauser1]

The official, on-the-table U.S. aid to Israel --rarely, if at all, addressed in the mainstream media-- is $3,000,000,000 (40% economical and 60% Military) since 1984 and $2,500,000,000 since 1973. Add to that $1,271,000,000/yr for special gifts and programs subsidized by the U.S., such as the Arrow missile and the Lavi fighter, plus the loan guarantees of $10,000,000,000 over 5 years, plus the interest ($500,000,000/yr) the U.S. must pay on money borrowed to pay for the grants to Israel. The total for the five years (1993-1997) was around $6,300,000,000/year ($6.3 BILLION) or over $17 Million/DAY.

In other words, the money just changes an account number in the same US bank. Funny.

This is more than what the U.S. spends on domestic drug enforcement.

But still less, than about $10 bln. the bleeding heart of California spends on its dear mexican illegals. Hilarious.

Prospectively, the total U.S. foreign aid to the whole world (6 Billion people) is about $18 BILLION, so, the one thousandth (1/1000) of the world population living in Israel --with life expectancy higher than that of the U.S.-- gets one third of US aid. Also, in 1990 Israel GNP is $24 Billion, i.e. a quarter of Israel's income comes from the U.S. The Aid to Israel is in the form of loans, which are typically forgiven by the AIPAC-dominated congress.

That must be frustrating to the great arab-muslim perennial loser community.

* the tax-deductible donations, mostly by American Jews and Christian Zionists, to Israel totaling over $1,000,000,000/year.

Didn't know private donations were jooblameable.

* the lumps of money Israel usually demands from the U.S. upon each withdrawal from the occupied territories during the current Peace Process, (for example, Netanyahu is planning to ask the U.S. for about $1,200,000,000 for the 13% withdrawal of mid-1998, to cover costs).

Paying the piper is fair. There's no occupation, by the way.

* Israel Bonds sold in the U.S. for $500,000,000/year.

And the crime of it is, exactly, what?

* the $1,000,000,000/year U.S. commercial banks lend to Israel

And the crime of it is, exactly, what?

* the $2,100,000,000/year the U.S. rewards Egypt for signing peace with Israel

Carter built military aid to Egypt into the agreement. Are we dissing the great peacemaker, yet? Anyway, Egypt gets easy credits for anything as long it buys american, so, forget it.

* The fact that unlike other countries, Israel gets its US aid in one chunk at the beginning of the distribution year, instead of quarterly installments. This allows Israel to further make interest on that money over other aid-receiving countries.

All taken from radio islam. Who could've known. Arabs like to count other folks' money - a relic from the times of that great islamic conquest, it seems. When are we to quote radio North Korea, anyway?

 

[Marc39]

The revelation is youtube is your primary source of information.

Don't they have grade schools in poor communities such as where you live, white trash?

I saw that clip on the History channel.

Don't you get the History channel? Doesn't your mom pay the cable bill?

Maybe you should shut your fucking pie hole and consider what other people know to be fact and what you know to be

Utter Bull Shit.

I don't watch much Tee Wee, kid. I study scholarly material.

Isn't it about time for the sandbox or do you need a diaper change, first?

 

[docmauser1]

We shouldn't send Israel a dime. We shouldn't send any other country any dimes either.

With all the dimes, coming from China, yep.

 

[Marc39]

The exports are free trade. Israel would be dumber than you to stop trading with us.

The anti-terrorist intel is a 2 way street.

Please try harder, this isn't all the fun.

Israel could trade with China, India and many other countries. That Israel is the US's 20th largest export market, out of 200 countries, is significant when most countries are buying from China, etc.

Israel provides the US with far more anti-terrorism intelligence than does the US to Israel given Israel's close proximity to the Muslim world.

And, Israeli advances in military technology make Israel as key military partner.

For example, Israel has provided critical analysis of the F16 to General Dynamics that resulted in 600 improvements, including structural enhancements, software changes, increased capability landing gear, radio improvements and avionic modifications.


In the Gulf War, the US military benefited from the use of Israeli-made Have Nap air-launched missiles on its B-52 bombers. The Navy used Israeli Pioneer pilotless drones for reconnaissance in the Gulf.

Israel provided mine plows that were used to clear paths for Allied forces through Iraqi minefields.

Mobile bridges flown directly from Israel to Saudi Arabia were used by the U.S. Marine Corps

Israel Aircraft Industries developed conformal fuel tanks that enhanced the range of F15 aircraft used in the Gulf War.

An Israeli-produced targeting system was used to increase the Cobra helicopter's night-fighting capabilities.

Israel manufactured the canister for the highly successful Tomahawk missile.

Night-vision goggles used by U.S. forces were supplied by Israel.

A low-altitude warning system produced and developed in Israel was utilized on Blackhawk helicopters.

Other Israeli equipment provided to U.S. forces included flack vests, gas masks and sandbags.

Israel offered the United States the use of military and hospital facilities. U.S. ships utilized Haifa port shipyard maintenance and support on their way to the Gulf.

In preparation for the Iraq War, American soldiers trained in IDF facilities and Israeli drones flew above the Sunni Triangle and in Afghanistan providing U.S. Marines with critical intelligence.

In Iraq, Israeli advisers have trained US special forces in aggressive counter-insurgency operations, including the use of assassination squads against guerrilla leaders.

The IDF sent urban warfare specialists to Fort Bragg in North Carolina, the home of US special forces, and Israeli military consultants have also visited Iraq.

The US Army also travelled to Israel to glean lessons learned from their counterterrorist operations in urban areas. The IDF regularly shared its experience in the West Bank and Gaza with the US armed forces. The Pentagon regularly asked the IDF to debrief on operations similar to those engaged in by US military forces.

An American liaison team had been responsible for coordinating efforts and intelligence between the Pentagon, the IDF, and American forces. Major General Charles Simpson, the chief liaison officer for the U.S. Army, met repeatedly with IDF Chief of Staff Moshe Ya'alon on this joint project.

Joint air force exercises, such as the Juniper Cobra, had taken place between Israeli and the American Patriot artillery in the Negev and radar units from the U.S. Sixth Fleet. Noble Dina, an anti-submarine warfare exercise, were executed with the combined efforts of the Israel Navy and the Sixth Fleet.

American soldiers were in Israel prior to the Iraq war to work with anti-missile defenses, both the U.S.-made Patriot and the Arrow, developed by both Israel and the U.S.

The U.S. sailed an aircraft carrier, the Harry Truman, into the Mediterranean Sea. The aircraft allowed U.S. planes to reach Iraqi targets by flying over Israeli and Jordanian territory. Israel has permitted the use of its air zones.

Israel has been sharing with the US its experience in combating Palestinian terrorism, which has been helpful in the US's war in Afghanistan. The US military benefits from Israel’s tactics against suicide bombers, car bombs and improvised explosive devices.

Nice copy and paste.

*yawn*

so how does any of that mean Israel, a country that killed sailors and never even said they were sorry, earns billions from us a year in free money?

All of that is something allies should do for each other b/c they are allies, not b/c we pay them.

Why should israelies get the benefits of that money when our economy is tanking?

Give a VERY good reason why any American should suffer for one moment to care for another country.


You can't. this is a waste of fuckin time.

Translatilon: You ran out of gas, shit for brains.

You took your spanking like a good little baby. Now, go to mommy.

 

[docmauser1]

Israel is nothing but a monetary drain on the American taxpayer. We basically get zero for our dollar. And our support for the rogue apartheid state of Israel. Does nothing to enhance our prestige and image in the the world.

Those, paying next to nothing in US taxes, are the loudest to cry taxes, of course.

 

[Marc39]

Why should israelies get the benefits of that money when our economy is tanking?

Pussy boy, are you retarded or just stupid?

The US pissed away $1 trillion on those Muzzie ingrates in Iraq and $120 billion/'year to Muzzie Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Egypt and Jordan.

$15 billion/year in US exports to Israel far outweigh foreign aid to Israel, which is the US's closest and most reliable ally.

Don't worry, pussy, Israel is protecting your vagina while you play with yourself all day.

Unted States European Command...

HATZOR AIR FORCE BASE, Israel — More than 1,000 service members from the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines are working together alongside Israeli troops during Juniper Cobra 2010 (JC10).

"This exercise is utilizing hundreds of people from different branches, all working together to maximize the outcome and continue to build on the relations with the Israeli military," said Navy Capt. Donna Joyal, joint task force manpower director. "Such a large scale exercise requires an equally massive amount of planning," Joyal continued. She credits much of the smoothness of the arrival due to the months of work completed prior to departing the respective home bases. "Training and preparedness truly equates to success." Everything had to be considered for any situation that may arise. From living quarters and work spaces, to recreation and transportation, all were essential to make the exercise the most productive experience possible.

Proper planning key to success during Juniper Cobra 2010 | EUCOM, Stronger Together
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[docmauser1]

Sorry .. Israel doesn't have shit to do with our "heritage." .. and if you open that bible you'll find LOTS of murder .. with your god doing most of it. In fact, your god sent his armies into villages to slaughter everything in sight .. men, children, goats, sheep, and women .. unless they were unknown to man .. ie; virgins. His men could keep most of the virgins for themselves .. after your god got his share of them .. and they could pass the rest around like booty (pun intended) Proof that god has a dick. That comes from your bible along with many other horror stories. That may be your god and your heritage, but it sure the hell ain't mine. Israel is in violation of more UN Resolutions than any nation in history. Start from there .. leave the bible for believers and in mythology.

Hilarious drivel. What's that "our "heritage", by the way?

 

[Marc39]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sunni Man
Israel is nothing but a monetary drain on the American taxpayer. We basically get zero for our dollar. And our support for the rogue apartheid state of Israel. Does nothing to enhance our prestige and image in the the world.

Maybe, if self loathing Muslims obsessed less on their inferiority complex stemming from how much more educated, successful, accomplished and respected Jews are than Muslims and focused more on how to lift your backward asses out of the Middle Ages, your dismal, failed and pathetic culture would be known for more than just terrorism and you wouldn't have so much rage inside.

 

[Two Thumbs]

I saw that clip on the History channel.

Don't you get the History channel? Doesn't your mom pay the cable bill?

Maybe you should shut your fucking pie hole and consider what other people know to be fact and what you know to be

Utter Bull Shit.

I don't watch much Tee Wee, kid. I study scholarly material.
Isn't it about time for the sandbox or do you need a diaper change, first?

HAHAHAHA

Well since I already proved you're a liar, and you proved you can copy - paste some bs that means nothing and you still can't give a single valid reason to dump Billion a year to Israel.

I'll assume your not ready scholarly material either.

 

[Marc39]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sunni Man
And our support for the rogue apartheid state of Israel

Coming from a Muzzie. LOL, every apartheid Muzzie shithole discriminates against women, gays and non-Muzzies.


Do you drive on the Muslim-Only highway in apartheid Saudi Arabia, slave of allah?
http://rochester.indymedia.org/usermedia/image/3/hway-2-mecca-muslims-only.jpg:clap2:

 

[Marc39]

I don't watch much Tee Wee, kid. I study scholarly material.
Isn't it about time for the sandbox or do you need a diaper change, first?

HAHAHAHA

Well since I already proved you're a liar, and you proved you can copy - paste some bs that means nothing and you still can't give a single valid reason to dump Billion a year to Israel.

I'll assume your not ready scholarly material either.

Sad to see a child like you with such delusional psychological problems. Since you're poor white trash, can't child services help you with your mental illness?

 

[Marc39]

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A lot of things made Israel, the voice in the halls of the United Nations made a nice echo, nothing more.

I can sell you a clue if you can't buy one from anyone else.

The League of Nations established "Palestine" as the Jewish National Home [Israel] back in 1922, creating international law with the unanimous ratification of the Palestine Mandate.

The UN merely gave further legitimacy to Israel in 1947.

Now, you're a little less clueless

 

[georgephillip]

Israel is nothing but a monetary drain on the American taxpayer.

We basically get zero for our dollar.

And our support for the rogue apartheid state of Israel.

Does nothing to enhance our prestige and image in the the world.

Israel is a gold mine for US defense contractors and their Wall Street bankers.

As long as US voters limit their ballot choice to Republican OR Democrat the entire scam will continue unchallenged.

FLUSH the DC Toilet in 2012!

 

[Marc39]

Israel is nothing but a monetary drain on the American taxpayer.

Israelis purchase $15 billion in American products, a big plus to the American taxpayer.

Though, you don't pay taxes. You're an unemployed Marxist.

 

[Agit8r]

the modern state of Israel was founded by terrorists (King David Hotel, anyone). Now we are reaping the reward by becoming a terrorist target with our civil liberties suspended.

 

[Marc39]

the modern state of Israel was founded by terrorists (King David Hotel, anyone). Now we are reaping the reward by becoming a terrorist target with our civil liberties suspended.

Terrorism is defined as violence perpetrated against non-combatants for an ideological objective.

The British used the King David Hotel as a military base, a flagrant violation of international law, depriving it of protected status as a civilian structure.

Thus, you have no idea what the fk you're even talking about

 

[P F Tinmore]

the modern state of Israel was founded by terrorists (King David Hotel, anyone). Now we are reaping the reward by becoming a terrorist target with our civil liberties suspended.

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[Marc39]

Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper: Israel A Bastion Of Democracy & Freedom

All of my life, Israel has been a symbol of the triumph of hope and faith. After 1945, our battered world desperately needed to be lifted out of post-war darkness and despair. After so much pain and suffering, humanity needed comfort and optimism. After so much death and destruction, we needed renewal. The renewal of the dream of a better and more civilized world. We needed to be inspired and it was the Jewish people who suffered most who provided that inspiration.

By their example, they led the world back to the light. From shattered Europe and other countries, near and far, the descendants of Abrhahan, Isaac and Jacob made their way home. Their pilgramage was the culmination of a 2000 year dream it is a tribute to the unquenchable human aspiration for freedom and a testament to the indominable spirit of the Jewish People.

In the 60 years that followed, Israel blossomed into one of the most successful countries on Earth. A land of ingenuity and enterprise, an oasis of agricultural genius, a wellspring of fine art and high culture, a model of democracy, Israel is truly the miracle in the desert.

But, the source of Israel's strength and success is its commitment to the universal values of all civilized people, freedom, democracy, human rights and the rule of law. Soon, I hope to have the opportunity to travel to Israel to see the miracle with my own eyes. To see how millions of people from all over the Earth with their countless different languages and traditions came together to build a modern, prosperous, vibrant democratic country.

I want to see first hand what the survivors of the Holocaust and their descendants have accomplished for theirs is truly an achievement of resilience and renewal unsurpassed in the annals of human history. Considering how far Israel has come in so short a time, in the face of such seemingly insurmountable odds, I can foresee no dark force, no matter how strong, that could succeed in dimming the light of freedom and democracy that shines from within Israel.

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[docmauser1]

Israel is a gold mine for US defense contractors and their Wall Street bankers.

Funny that judophobic tax-thumpers would like to see the american defence industry worker jobless. Indeed, funny.

 

[docmauser1]

the modern state of Israel was founded by terrorists (King David Hotel, anyone). Now we are reaping the reward by becoming a terrorist target with our civil liberties suspended.

Funny how arabs become spontaneously combustible with love toward "america", when the subject is Israel.