The Turkish Whore to German Turks

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    In a country that is 99.5% Muslim and made of as high as 97% Turkish (depending on how you define a Turk's ethnicity), he has a lot of nerve to condemn Turks that assimulate into German as criminals!

    Turkish whore hypocrisy at its worst!

     
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    -- Prime Minister Erdogan in Dusseldorf (Germany). Address to German-Turks.
     
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    What a great OP...more important than many understand!

    Forgive me for adding this background, of which you may already be aware..

    1. Sayyid Qutb was the single most influential Islamist writer. His masterwork, “In the Shade of the Qur’an,” commentaries on the various suras: Most of the original 30 volumes (114 Surahs) were written (or re-written) while in prison following an attempted assassination of Egyptian leader Gamal Abdel Nasser in 1954. Fi Zilal al-Qur'an - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    2. The notion of Islam as totality was Qutb’s most important concept, distinguishing Islam from all other worldviews- ‘Tawhid,’ the oneness of God. (Of course, Marxists had the same belief: George Lukacs defined that characteristic of Marxism that distinguished it from bourgeois thinking: ‘the primacy of the category of totality.’)

    3. Qutb had a great fear that liberals doctrines about religion would spread from the Western societies into the Muslim world, and crowd out Islam; liberal ideas could invade the Muslim mind. His trembling rage was based on the example of Kemal Ataturk and his secular reforms in Turkey in 1924. Ataturk “who put to an end the Islamic Caliphate, separated religion from the State and declared the purely secular State.” (From “Islam: The Religion of the Future”) Ataturk showed that Islam was vulnerable.

    4. So, you can see how pivotal the Islamization of Turkey is to their movement.
    Here's hoping many consider your OP.
    Rep on the way.

    If you have the time, pick up Paul Berman's "Terror and Libealism" for a fuller exposition.
     
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    Not to mention Jews who identify with Israel over being Americans 1st
     
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    -- Prime Minister Erdogan in Dusseldorf.


    The bilateral discourse centers around bi-lingual education for German-Turks.
    Turkey wants to build bi-lingual schools in Germany for German-Turks.

    The German Government has said, that German language must stand equal in such kind of education:
    Integration à la Erdogan: Erst Türkisch lernen - heute.de Nachrichten
     
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    There are alot of Mexicans here who also identify with Mexico first, there are Arabs in England who wouldn't piss on the UK if it were in a blazing inferno. Not everyone is loyal to the country they live in.
     
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    Tell the blogger of your trust, he should write a blog-post collecting all Islamic legislature which has passed through parliament in Prime Minister Erdogan's 9 years as being Prime Minister.
     
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    Your President is a joke Ekrem.
     
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    sometimes I click on threads b/c of cool titles, sometimes b/c I see the author and wonder what's new.
    I'm often happy with the out come.

    Now I know that Ghook is either in or from Illinois, and I think is a Jew.

    So I'm wondering why I should give even the littlest bit of a damn as to what some douch in Germany?Turkey said Turks should or shouldn't do.

    I've read all the posts up to this point and just can't find a valid reason for us to care.

    Enlighten me.
     
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    What is your point, old friend?

    Is it that Turkey has not become more Islamist in the last decade or so?

    Don't be shy, make your point.

    "the blogger of your trust...:"here are a few....

    1. Police arrested the officers on suspicion of plotting in 2003 to blow up mosques during Friday prayers and stir up tensions with neighboring Greece in an effort to discredit the Islamic-leaning Justice and Development Party (AKP) government. Details of the plot, code-named "Sledgehammer," were published last month by Taraf, a controversial daily that has revealed numerous alleged coup plots against the AKP since the publication first appeared in 2007.

    The military says the allegations are part of a deliberate campaign to discredit it, and insists the documents published by Taraf were part of a war-game played out during a seminar in an Istanbul barracks in March 2003, and not a real plot.
    On February 23, Chief of Staff General Ilker Basbug called top generals and admirals to Ankara for an emergency meeting, sparking speculation in the Turkish press that the military might be on the verge of intervening. Instead, it contented itself with a brief statement, posted on its website after the meeting, stating that it was closely following what it described as a "serious situation."

    It was a muted response from a body that, back in 1997, used constitutional articles charging it with guarding Turkey's secular structure to justify forcing AKP's Islamist predecessor out of power. But a lot has changed in Turkey over the past 13 years. For a start, reforms Turkey pushed through after 1999 to ensure a start to European Union accession proceedings have loosened the military's grip on policy making.
    http://www.eurasianet.org/departments/insight/articles/eav022410_pr.shtml

    Could this be an attempt to make sure that the military cannot, as it has in the past, make certain that Turkey remains secular?

    2. "Turkish flags and portraits of Prime Minister Erdogan are now ubiquitous in the Gaza Strip, where Turkey is being hailed by Hamas and other Muslim extremist groups ..." Pro-Turkey Bias | The Weekly Standard

    Now, why is that?

    3. "In the aftermath of the attempt by Hamas supporters to breach Israel's Gaza blockade, more questions should be asked about Turkey's relationship to Hamas--and about the U.S. attitude toward Turkey and its pro-Hamas associates. One point is already obvious: Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan of the Justice and Development Party (AKP) is a backer of the antiblockade campaign. The antiblockade operation was organized, by the Turkish “charity” Insan Haklary Ve Hurriyetleri Vakfi (IHH), which has been designated by both Israel and the U.S. as a supporter of Hamas. IHH is backed by fundamentalist Muslim cleric Yusuf al-Qaradawi. Al-Qaradawi’s leading Western partner is the Swiss-born Muslim academic Tariq Ramadan.... But the movement of the Erdogan government away from Turkey’s long-standing alliance with Israel and its new alignment with Iran and Syria are deeply worrying....The alliance of the AKP government and Hamas can be seen as one of many expressions of these resuscitated imperial pretensions....an Islamist opposition penetrated the state and society using the spiritual practice of Sufism as a cover. Members of some Sufi groups were leading figures in the establishment of new Turkish Islamist parties. They included former prime minister Necmettin Erbakan.

    In 1995 Turkish elections resulted in a governing coalition between secular conservatives in the True Path party and Islamists in the Welfare party, headed by Erbakan. Erbakan, who was named prime minister, was notable in calling for an orientation away from the West and Israel and toward the Arab countries, and for his Jew-baiting. Although he was removed from power in 1997, and the Welfare party was banned, Erbakan is the political mentor of Erdogan, and the Welfare party is a direct antecedent of Erdogan’s AKP. Erbakan maintains considerable influence through a transnational network called Milli Gorus (MG) or “National Vision.” MG cooperates with al-Qaradawi and Ramadan through the so-called European Council for Fatwas and Research (ECFR) headed by al-Qaradawi.

    Prime Minister Erdogan is tied to Erbakan, al-Qaradawi, Ramadan, and Hamas, and Turkey now represents a major element in the global panorama of radical Islam. The response to this reality by the Obama administration, which appears to fantasize that extreme Muslim ideology is merely a product of social ills, rather than of official support in countries like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Turkey, no less than in Iran and Syria, is badly mistaken."
    Erdogan, Qaradawi, Ramadan, Hamas, and Obama | The Weekly Standard



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