The truth some here cannot take

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    Me asking someone not to be racist is not going to do it. Imagine you hate whites. I come to you and ask you to please no longer hate whites. Why would you do that?

    In fact me doing this would make you hate whites more.
     
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    Jesus was a Jew. Do you know many black Jews? He was dark skinned. Olive. Not black.
     
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    Hmm, that hasn't entirely been my experience here but, okay.
     
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    You've never gotten ad hominem attacks from me and you damn well know it. You just called me a low life for Christ's sake. And, don't hand me that "We are called racists..." sludge, you have called every single white person who disagreed with you a racist, including me. It doesn't even matter what it is they're disagreeing about; if they disagree with you on any opinions you have on the subject of race and race relations, they're racist.

    I remember you telling me once that you judged me based on the history of white racism. When I pointed out that this means you judge me because I'm white, I got nothing and you bailed on the discussion.

    If you drag that history-of-white-racism baggage to the discussion table, no white person has a chance in hell of being judged fairly and objectively on their own words and actions.

    You see, that's part of your problem right there. You lump me in with other whites who agree with this person but I don't even know who Avery Jahrman is and I never said anything about him. You're criticizing me for things other people said about someone I've never even heard of.

    Don't give me that crap about "I have the same right...", I wasn't even addressing you, I was addressing Marc and responding to something he said. You're the one who came at me and what's more, you claimed I didn't want racial harmony and you claimed I only want to shut you up pointing out racism when I wasn't even talking to you, much less trying to shut you up. Or trying to shut Marc up either for that matter.

    I had nothing to do with any laws or policies against blacks and I certainly wasn't given anything. I've had to work, study and train just like everybody else to make it ahead in my profession. What's more, there are many blacks in my profession and there has been ever since I got into this line of work thirty four years ago so obviously nobody was giving me an advantage.
    As for my parents and others in my family, there simply weren't any blacks in the area where I grew up in upstate New York. There were only two blacks in the entire high school at that time and they were sisters. So there were basically no blacks to have an advantage over.

    Since we don't get any special rights, does that mean you will no longer call white people racist for the stupidest reasons?

    Speaking for myself, I'm not doing anything regarding race relations that I need to stop doing.

    When you talk abut us, its not accurate. You don't enter threads made by whites doing what you do to blacks here.[/quote]

    And what have I done to blacks here?

    I'll only concern myself with white racism if you only concern yourself with black racism. Deal? Oh that's right, you don't believe blacks can be racist even though some are. So, you leave me no choice but to point this out to you.

    What rude and racist comments have I ever made to you or anybody? Need I remind you that you're the one who has done all the name calling in our discussions? You've called me "stupid fucker", "dumb bastard", "fool", "punk" and "bitch" among other things. The worst I ever said to you was to call you "dumbass" once and I'm not sure that wasn't directed at someone else.

    Didn't see you getting on blacks here for any racist remarks either so I guess that makes us even.

    I don't know who you're talking about but I've never tried to bully anyone into anything.

    You seem to have this hangup about white people trying to shut you up that borders on paranoia. It's been a common thread in just about all your discussions and interactions. All a white person has to do is disagree with you on something and this makes them racist and they're trying to shut you up.
    If I say some blacks are racist, I'm racist and I'm trying to shut you up. If I say that something like a cotton plant is not racist, I'm racist and I'm trying to shut you up. If I say that not all conservatives are racist, I'm racist and I'm trying to shut you up. Ad nauseum...

    I never said anything about promoting racial harmony other than to confront Marc about his assumptions regarding Azogthedefiler's comment, i.e., "Can't we just be human instead of black, white, etc.?"

    My first contribution to this thread was simply to answer Marc's question regarding political division vs. racial division. Then Azogthedefiler made his remark about us all just being humans instead of black or white and Marc then basically accuses him of merely saying that out of white guilt and as an excuse to not "deal w/the past and/or current sins by whites against blacks." This was nothing more than an assumption on his part and he had no way of knowing that this was the reason behind Azog's remark so I confronted him on it.

    I don't "cry when you get called the racists...". If I see an unjustified assumption or judgment, or a contradiction in someone's argument, or hypocrisy, or something that is simply not true, I'm going to point it out.
     
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    Too Long....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
     
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    If you notice what I said, then you understand that it is not about asking. It is about holding classes, going into schools, senior centers, businesses, conducting seminars.workshops and trainings. Work, get it?
     
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    And do what at those seminars, workshops, etc.? Educate on the atrocities of the past?
     
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    Figure it out. Because white racism has not ended. So stop talking about it like it's in the past.
     
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    The Haitian Revolution: /// How Blacks Defeated Whites !

     
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