The truth is missing. . . .

[Foxfyre]

This was called to my attention by a friend. How long will it be before our own government is also blocking certain search phrases from the internet? Or is it already doing that?

"Truth" appears to have vanished from the Chinese internet, after micro-bloggers discovered the word had been blocked on the country's leading social-media website.
Online messages began circulating earlier this week claiming that the Chinese characters for "the truth" could not be searched for on the Twitter-like micro-blog, Sina Weibo, which boasts nearly 300 million registered users.

Attempts to search Weibo for "the truth" on Thursday turned up the message: "According to relevant laws, regulations and policies, search results for 'the truth' cannot be displayed."
It is not known how long the term has been blocked or why but one internet-user said they had first noticed the truth was missing in late June. Sina Weibo did not respond to requests for information.
The 'truth' deleted from internet in China - Telegraph

 

[Truthmatters]

they killed the truth, those bastards

 

[Foxfyre]

I wonder how many will think this thread is about you, TM?

 

[bobcollum]

Australia has been filtering certain web pages for a couple of years.

The fact that China would do this isn't very surprising.

 

[Truthmatters]

its been happening since the day they had access there

 

[California Girl]

I wonder how many will think this thread is about you, TM?

She mocks truth.

 

[Truthmatters]

The watermelon stereotype « Abagond

 

[Rat in the Hat]

Truthmatters is to truth as screen doors are to submarines.

 

[Foxfyre]

Aw come on guysl. You have a gazillion other threads to bash TM. I want to talk about the internet and China. It is no secret that there is plenty of suspicion that the Chinese are committing all kinds of underhanded internet espionage and piracy and such, but the tactics they use to control what their own people see on the internet should also be of interest. Remember, it is tactics that could be used by elected authorities too.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

they killed the truth, those bastards

They killed Kenny too!

 

[hortysir]

they killed the truth, those bastards

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB4DqJKLBFU]you killed kenny you bastards - YouTube[/ame]

 

[hortysir]

Aw come on guysl. You have a gazillion other threads to bash TM. I want to talk about the internet and China. It is no secret that there is plenty of suspicion that the Chinese are committing all kinds of underhanded internet espionage and piracy and such, but the tactics they use to control what their own people see on the internet should also be of interest. Remember, it is tactics that could be used by elected authorities too.

I didn't post to overtly mock TM.

That's just where my demented brain went when I saw the words "killed" and "bastards".

Now. That being said, it is truly sad to see the death of Truth, regardless of where it happened.

But, hey, let's let them sit in on the UN's Human Rights Committee

 

[hortysir]

The watermelon stereotype « Abagond

And Foxy wonders why people can't help but mock the bag

 

[Foxfyre]

Aw come on guysl. You have a gazillion other threads to bash TM. I want to talk about the internet and China. It is no secret that there is plenty of suspicion that the Chinese are committing all kinds of underhanded internet espionage and piracy and such, but the tactics they use to control what their own people see on the internet should also be of interest. Remember, it is tactics that could be used by elected authorities too.

I didn't post to overtly mock TM.

That's just where my demented brain went when I saw the words "killed" and "bastards".

Now. That being said, it is truly sad to see the death of Truth, regardless of where it happened.

But, hey, let's let them sit in on the UN's Human Rights Committee

Um, China is already on the Human Rights Commission. But you probably knew that.

If there was ever a reason to realize what an empty, meaningless organization the U.N. has become, you just have to look at the membership on this year's Human Rights Commission:


Angola

2013



Austria

2014



Bangladesh

2012



Belgium

2012



Benin

2014



Botswana

2014



Burkina Faso

2014



Cameroon

2012



Chile

2014



China

2012



Congo

2014



Costa Rica

2014



Cuba

2012



Czech Republic

2014



Djibouti

2012



Ecuador

2013



Guatemala

2013



Hungary

2012



India

2014



Indonesia

2014



Italy

2014



Jordan

2012



Kuwait

2014



Kyrgyzstan

2012



Libya *

2013



Malaysia

2013



Maldives

2013



Mauritania

2013



Mauritius

2012



Mexico

2012



Nigeria

2012



Norway

2012



Peru

2014



Philippines

2014



Poland

2013



Qatar

2013



Republic of Moldova

2013



Romania

2014



Russian Federation

2012



Saudi Arabia

2012



Senegal

2012



Spain

2013



Switzerland

2013



Thailand

2013



Uganda

2013



United States of America

2012



Uruguay

2012

 

[hortysir]

Aw come on guysl. You have a gazillion other threads to bash TM. I want to talk about the internet and China. It is no secret that there is plenty of suspicion that the Chinese are committing all kinds of underhanded internet espionage and piracy and such, but the tactics they use to control what their own people see on the internet should also be of interest. Remember, it is tactics that could be used by elected authorities too.

I didn't post to overtly mock TM.

That's just where my demented brain went when I saw the words "killed" and "bastards".

Now. That being said, it is truly sad to see the death of Truth, regardless of where it happened.

But, hey, let's let them sit in on the UN's Human Rights Committee

Um, China is already on the Human Rights Commission. But you probably knew that.

If there was ever a reason to realize what an empty, meaningless organization the U.N. has become, you just have to look at the membership on this year's Human Rights Commission:


Angola

2013



Austria

2014



Bangladesh

2012



Belgium

2012



Benin

2014



Botswana

2014



Burkina Faso

2014



Cameroon

2012



Chile

2014



China

2012



Congo

2014



Costa Rica

2014



Cuba

2012



Czech Republic

2014



Djibouti

2012



Ecuador

2013



Guatemala

2013



Hungary

2012



India

2014



Indonesia

2014



Italy

2014



Jordan

2012



Kuwait

2014



Kyrgyzstan

2012



Libya *

2013



Malaysia

2013



Maldives

2013



Mauritania

2013



Mauritius

2012



Mexico

2012



Nigeria

2012



Norway

2012



Peru

2014



Philippines

2014



Poland

2013



Qatar

2013



Republic of Moldova

2013



Romania

2014



Russian Federation

2012



Saudi Arabia

2012



Senegal

2012



Spain

2013



Switzerland

2013



Thailand

2013



Uganda

2013



United States of America

2012



Uruguay

2012

yea, my sarcasm failed......

 

[slackjawed]

My opinion is that our government probably will not filter internet usage, however; I believe they already monitor search engines, message boards and social sites.

Now tell me which you think is worse.

 

[Truthmatters]

they are out in the open.

they can listen to people speak out in the open.


that doesnt scare me in the least

 

[Foxfyre]

My opinion is that our government probably will not filter internet usage, however; I believe they already monitor search engines, message boards and social sites.

Now tell me which you think is worse.

I think they do too. And I think they manipulate them or persuade or pay private citizens or groups to do so.

I know for a fact they have people reading the larger message boards--Daily Kos, ThinkProgress, Hannity, Freepers, and probably USMB et al--to see how their assigned talking points are plaiying through cyberland. (The media monitors us too to determine what the news of the day should be.) I'm pretty sure they pay professional trolls to get onto message boards and disrupt the flow on various topics.

The manipulation part is frustrating but there are ways around that. The trolls are annoying but so obvious and predictable that most of us just scroll over them as much as possible. The monitoring part doesn't bother me in the least. In fact I welcome it because it is a way of being heard.

 

[slackjawed]

oh I am not scared truth, but it does concern me that george orwell may have been right, just off by a decade or two.

Here is an example;
The media reported yesterday that facebook monitors its chats and then gives this info to law enforcement if it looks suspicious. My favorite pasttime these days is to play a stupid game on facebook called crime inc. I spend lots of time on fb chat discussing which bank to rob, which truck to steall, which crew to kill off, who to put a bounty hit on, the kind of stuff you would expect from a mafia game.

now would it not be funny if the fbi showed up at my door because of this, with rico charges in hand? Sure, be hilarious because in reality I didn't do anything. One would assume the charges if any would go nowhere. However, suppose I had enemies at the fbi. What if they decided to use the chat transcripts, without disclosing the fact I was chatting while playing a mafia game.

Thats what is disturbing, what could happen if this monitoring system is abused by corruption or greed, which, given the human condition is bound to happen at some point.