The truth about Dubbyuh's "War Years"

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    <blockquote>Bush has found military readiness to be a handy campaign issue. Yet even though more than two decades have passed since Bush left the Air National Guard, some military sources still bristle at his service record -- and what effect it had on readiness. "In short, for the several hundred thousand dollars we tax payers spent on getting [Bush] trained as a fighter jock, he repaid us with sixty-eight days of active duty. And God only knows if and when he ever flew on those days," concludes a military source. "I've spent more time cleaning up latrines than he did flying."</blockquote>

    Dubbyuh's a fraud...and a phony. A demagogue who wraps himself in the flag and brays about the virtues of patriotism...A word he sullies with every utterance.

    For the full text, go <a href=http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/3671/view/print>HERE</a>.
     
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    I believe it's actually about 3 decades now. These dopes have been spouting the same garbage for so long, yet they're too stupid to update their rhetoric.
     
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    We have already discussed this before and Lefty Wilbury posted evidence to the contrary -link to other thread . But there are several more months before the election so I am sure it will come up again.:rolleyes:
     
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    This for sure will be brought up over and over again! It's about the only thing the LIBS really get off on complaining about!
     
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    I, for one, want either the truth or falsehood, of these reports verified by the full and unexpurgated release of Dubbyuh's service records. If they're false, I got no problem with that. If they're true, I want him treated like any other deserter in a time of war.
     
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    Looks like the proof will be released today.

    WASHINGTON - The White House, facing election-year questions about President Bush (news - web sites)'s military service, is releasing pay records and other information intended to support his assertion that he fulfilled his duty as a member of the Air National Guard during the Vietnam war.

    The material, to be released Tuesday, was to include annual retirement point summaries and pay records to show that Bush served.

    The point summaries were released during the 2000 presidential campaign. "They show that the president fulfilled his duties, and that is why he was honorably discharged," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Monday.

    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...20040210/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_military_records
     
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    Russert: And we are back in the Oval Office talking to the President of the United States.

    Mr. President, this campaign is fully engaged. The chairman of the Democratic National Committee, Terence McAuliffe, said this last week: "I look forward to that debate when John Kerry, a war hero with a chest full of medals, is standing next to George Bush, a man who was AWOL in the Alabama National Guard. He didn't show up when he should have showed up…"

    President Bush: Yeah.

    Russert: How do you respond?

    President Bush: Political season is here. I was — I served in the National Guard. I flew F-102 aircraft. I got an honorable discharge. I've heard this — I've heard this ever since I started running for office. I — I put in my time, proudly so.

    I would be careful to not denigrate the Guard. It's fine to go after me, which I expect the other side will do. I wouldn't denigrate service to the Guard, though, and the reason I wouldn't, is because there are a lot of really fine people who have served in the National Guard and who are serving in the National Guard today in Iraq.

    Russert: The Boston Globe and the Associated Press have gone through some of the records and said there’s no evidence that you reported to duty in Alabama during the summer and fall of 1972.

    President Bush: Yeah, they’re — they're just wrong. There may be no evidence, but I did report; otherwise, I wouldn't have been honorably discharged. In other words, you don't just say "I did something" without there being verification. Military doesn't work that way. I got an honorable discharge, and I did show up in Alabama.

    Russert: You did — were allowed to leave eight months before your term expired. Was there a reason?

    President Bush: Right. Well, I was going to Harvard Business School and worked it out with the military.

    Russert: When allegations were made about John McCain or Wesley Clark on their military records, they opened up their entire files. Would you agree to do that?

    President Bush: Yeah. Listen, these files — I mean, people have been looking for these files for a long period of time, trust me, and starting in the 1994 campaign for governor. And I can assure you in the year 2000 people were looking for those files as well. Probably you were. And — absolutely. I mean, I —

    Russert: But you would allow pay stubs, tax records, anything to show that you were serving during that period?

    President Bush: Yeah. If we still have them, but I — you know, the records are kept in Colorado, as I understand, and they scoured the records.

    And I'm just telling you, I did my duty, and it's politics, you know, to kind of ascribe all kinds of motives to me. But I have been through it before. I'm used to it. What I don't like is when people say serving in the Guard is — is — may not be a true service.

    Russert: But you authorize the release of everything to settle this?

    President Bush: Yes, absolutely.

    We did so in 2000, by the way.


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    Sounds like Mr. P changed the subject a bit... I thought the question was about his service record, not whether it was a true service to be in the N. guard... didn't he have some DUIs? Or a drug arrest too? Can you become pres. if you have a criminal record? (that last one is a serious question, anybody know the law?)
     
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    No drug record, but I do believe he has a DUI. And yes, you can obviously then be president. I forget where and who, but a representative just ran for office a little while back while he was in jail!
     
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    but you're my source now... so answer this: What's the highest office a foreign born us citizen can reach? I know its not President, but could one be VP? Or Chief of staff?
     

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