The truth about Debt, Deficit and the inheritance of 1.7 trillion

According to Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 1950 - 1999, the debt at the end of the 1980 fiscal year, on September 30th, 1980, was $907,701,000,000. On September 30th, 1981, it was $997,855,000,000. Averaging it out over the year gives a debt of $246,997,260.27 per day.

Reagan took office 112 days later on January 20th, 1981. The debt on that date could be estimated as $907,701,000,000 plus 112 x $246,997,260.27, or $935,364,693,151.

Bill Clinton was the first president to slow the rate of the accrual of debt after the current out-of-control spending began with the Borrow and Spend Republicans in 1981.

The final amount of the senior Bush debt was $4,174,218,594,232.91 (according to Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)), and Clinton became president on January 20th, 1993. Bill Clinton saw $1,553,558,144,071.73 added to the national debt during the eight years of his presidency.

However, from the start of fiscal year 1994 (7 months after Clinton became president), until the start of fiscal year 2002 (7 months after Bush took office), the amount of money paid toward interest on the existing Federal debt was $2,767,282,794,374.59 (Government - Interest Expense on the Debt Outstanding).

Therefore, no amount of the national debt is attributable to Bill Clinton - his policies of higher taxes and reduced spending actually simultaneously reduced the debt and brought about the strongest economy since World War II, despite the fiscal disaster left in the wake of Reagan and the first Bush.

The debt was at $5,727,776,738,304.64 on January 19th, 2001, the last business day before George W. Bush took the office of president. The debt was at $10,628,881,485,510.23 on January 16th, 2009, the last business day before Barack H. Obama became president.

During his administration, George W. Bush
increased the national debt by $4,901,104,747,205.59
and personally approved of the creation of 46% of the entire national debt,
in only 8 years.

Starting in 2003, George W. Bush destroyed the world economy by encouraging U.S. banks to make loans to those who could not afford them, through schemes such as the "American Dream Downpayment Initiative", and through the destruction of oversight, such as lawsuits to prevent state securities laws from being enforced on Bush's watch. Once Bush's policies led to their inevitable result of economic collapse, the United States found itself in a situation where it had to take on debt in order to restore the economy.

This means that all of the money spent to restore the economy, until it is restored, is also attributable to George W. Bush.

Further, with our interest payments on the current debt at almost half a trillion dollars per year, that amount will be attributed to Borrow-And-Spend Republicanism as well.

That means that Ronald Wilson Reagan, George Herbert Walker Bush, and George Walker Bush's borrow-and-spend Republican administrations oversaw, approved, or caused to be spent, almost all of the national debt, except for as much as $935,364,693,151.00.

ReaganBushDebt.org Calculation Details
 
GWB had no more to do with the Meltdown than BHO did
The wars and there cost is a constitutional mandate
again we run a deficit in 2007 of 163 billion with both wars wide open and all of GWB policies firmly in place


from 2007 the last GOP budget until 2010 we added 1 trillion dollars to the amount of money we spent to run our country
GWB nor the GOP had anything to do with that
2007 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
2010 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There it is an black and white
 
According to Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 1950 - 1999, the debt at the end of the 1980 fiscal year, on September 30th, 1980, was $907,701,000,000. On September 30th, 1981, it was $997,855,000,000. Averaging it out over the year gives a debt of $246,997,260.27 per day.

Reagan took office 112 days later on January 20th, 1981. The debt on that date could be estimated as $907,701,000,000 plus 112 x $246,997,260.27, or $935,364,693,151.

Bill Clinton was the first president to slow the rate of the accrual of debt after the current out-of-control spending began with the Borrow and Spend Republicans in 1981.

The final amount of the senior Bush debt was $4,174,218,594,232.91 (according to Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)), and Clinton became president on January 20th, 1993. Bill Clinton saw $1,553,558,144,071.73 added to the national debt during the eight years of his presidency.

However, from the start of fiscal year 1994 (7 months after Clinton became president), until the start of fiscal year 2002 (7 months after Bush took office), the amount of money paid toward interest on the existing Federal debt was $2,767,282,794,374.59 (Government - Interest Expense on the Debt Outstanding).

Therefore, no amount of the national debt is attributable to Bill Clinton - his policies of higher taxes and reduced spending actually simultaneously reduced the debt and brought about the strongest economy since World War II, despite the fiscal disaster left in the wake of Reagan and the first Bush.

The debt was at $5,727,776,738,304.64 on January 19th, 2001, the last business day before George W. Bush took the office of president. The debt was at $10,628,881,485,510.23 on January 16th, 2009, the last business day before Barack H. Obama became president.

During his administration, George W. Bush
increased the national debt by $4,901,104,747,205.59
and personally approved of the creation of 46% of the entire national debt,
in only 8 years.

Starting in 2003, George W. Bush destroyed the world economy by encouraging U.S. banks to make loans to those who could not afford them, through schemes such as the "American Dream Downpayment Initiative", and through the destruction of oversight, such as lawsuits to prevent state securities laws from being enforced on Bush's watch. Once Bush's policies led to their inevitable result of economic collapse, the United States found itself in a situation where it had to take on debt in order to restore the economy.

This means that all of the money spent to restore the economy, until it is restored, is also attributable to George W. Bush.

Further, with our interest payments on the current debt at almost half a trillion dollars per year, that amount will be attributed to Borrow-And-Spend Republicanism as well.

That means that Ronald Wilson Reagan, George Herbert Walker Bush, and George Walker Bush's borrow-and-spend Republican administrations oversaw, approved, or caused to be spent, almost all of the national debt, except for as much as $935,364,693,151.00.

ReaganBushDebt.org Calculation Details

Chris have you read any of these threads?
the 09 defict is half of BHO
massive job loss (revenue)
stimulus
and 50% of tarp was his
the 07 budget we spent 2.7 trillion (the last GOP budget)
the 2010 we spent 3.7 trillion

You keep coming up with these numbers that have everything to do with collective debt until 2009 and nothing to do with policy

2010 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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I keep reading this threads that state GWB added 5 billion dollars to the national Debt.
1 trillion in added budget with 3 trillion from previous debt in interest (including his 1 trillion)
follow along
The senate in 01-02 was controlled by the Dems and congress from 07 through the end of his presidency

The truth is that his (GWB) policies added 700 billion through 2008
Now this is spending, not deficit. This is key
From 2008 thru 2009 we went from a spending of 2.9 trillion to 3.5 trillion in 2009
most of that raise in spending was BHO (stimulus and 50% of tarp) as GWB had budgeted spending of 3.1
we will split 2009 spending addition with GWB and BHO

2008 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia base line 2008
2009 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia added 600 billion from 08
2010 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia added 800 billion from 2008 spending levels and 200 billion from 2009, but in reality he added 500 billion to GWB 09 spending levels
2011 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia added 300 billion from 08 levels and had a cut of 300 billion from 2010

lets make it simple
2008 spending was 2.9 trillion, GWB had added 700 billion to the federal budget to here from his first budget
2009 spending was 3.5 trillion, GWB had added about 1 trillion to the budget, ends his total addition here
BHO 300 billion, his begins
2010 spending was 3.7 trillion BHO had added 600 billion from GWB 09 levels
2011 spending was cut by the GOP house to 3.4 trillion from BHO request of 3.8 trillion

simply put GWB total additions to the federal budget was 1 trillion dollars
BHO to date has added 600 billion in 2.5 years

GWB had 9-11
2 wars
Katrina and 5 other major hurricanes
as I recall 3 stimulus with all of them going to the tax payer
Medicare part D
No child left behind

BHO had both wars but Iraq was far below the levels of GWB presidency
The Katrina expense is gone
Medicare part D is still there
no child left behind as I recall was extended

It is a common thread from the libs that GWB added 5 trillion dollars to the defict in his time
The truth is it closer to 4 trillion as the 09 debacle is at least 50% of BHO, This would include interest on debt for both

President Bush presided over a $2.5 trillion increase in the public debt through 2008. Setting aside 2009 (for which Presidents Bush and Obama share responsibility for an additional $2.6 trillion in public debt)
The Truth about Obama's Budget Deficits, in Pictures

Now we can talk deficits from yearly budgets
simply put the 07 budget had a deficit of 163 billion, the last GOP budget
2007 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We went to a 450 billion dollar deficit in 08 (see above)
1.3 trillion in 09 Link above
same for 2010 Link above
about 1.1 trillion in 2011

The key here is BHO reset the budget base-line in 2009. If not for the GOP house on 2010 the 2011 base line would have grown another 300 billion.

In summary
GWB added 1 trillion dollars in spending thru 8 years
BHO has added 600 billion in 2.5 years, with the GOP house cutting 200 billion in spending in 2011

GWB added 4 trillion total debt in his 8 years to include interest on inherited debt
to date BHO had added about the same
Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2010


This graph by the Washington Post shows this yearly debt better than I can explain it
The Truth about Obama's Budget Deficits, in Pictures

Most all of this came under Dem control of congress
Increase spending has done little to create jobs
In BHO defense the crash in 08 was not his fault, nor was it GWB either

spending is the problem, and the 09 budget was were it got of control

Many including my self think the 2007 budget baseline is the place to start

You forgot to include lost revenue from the Bush tax cuts.

If we had lost revenue from tax cuts why is it we had a deficit of 163 billion with both wars going wide open?
5% UE was the norm from the time the GOP took over congress to the time the dems took it back over
the revenue problem comes from job loss, not from tax policy
and job loss was created from greed, not tax policy
2007 proves that
 
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The Obama budget deficits originated during the Bush presidency...

1. Tax cuts 2001-2002 (4 trillion over 10 years)
2. Prescription drug benefits (1 trillion over 10 years)
3. Economic meltdown of 2008 ( 3 trillion and rising)
4. Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (2 trillion and winding down)

Chris we had a 163 billion dollar deficit in 2007, the last GOP budget
so
1 thru 4 is a lie. There is no way we have a year in which we are that close to a balanced budget years after those policies in place if they were the problem'
The problem is we have close to 5 million people fewer working today than in 2008
the problem is we spent 2.7 trillion in 07
we spent 3.7 in 2010
spending has nothing to do with any of your claims
the credit bubble had 0 to do with any politician
stupid people making greedy choices that all of us paid for
 
The talking point that Bush doubled the deficit is true.....but that was over two terms. 8 years.

12/31/2001 BUSH $5,943,438,563,436

to

12/31/2008 BUSH $10,699,804,864,612

Now to Obama:eusa_whistle:

12/31/2011 OBAMA $15,125,898,976,397

Well, looky looky how fast that happened!!

Really interesting chart:

National Debt by Presidential Term - per Capita and as Percentage of GDP

Go back to 1995
The GOP had congress from 95 thru the 06 election cycle (the 07 budget was GOP)

The dems took it over in 07
 
Bush was handed a budget surplus.

Obama was handed the worst economic disaster since the great depression which the republicans also caused.
 
Bush was handed a budget surplus.

Obama was handed the worst economic disaster since the great depression which the republicans also caused.

Your talking apples and oranges
The credit bubble had nothing to do with any politician
It had every-thing to do with 1 simple event
Real estate values plummeting
commercial
residential

From 1995 thru 2007 we had a GOP congress excpet for 01-02 when Jim Jeffers jumped the GOP ship after being elected as a GOP

What does 9-11 and the 2 wars that followed have to do with what was handed to GWB?
Nasdaq bubble?
7 major hurricanes in the middle of his presidency?
GWB was handed these events and by 2007 had our country back on track to a balanced budget (the tax payers did)
 
Bush was handed a budget surplus.

Obama was handed the worst economic disaster since the great depression which the republicans also caused.

Your talking apples and oranges
The credit bubble had nothing to do with any politician [/quote]
I see so according to you politicians removing regulations that would of prevented the bubble/banking crises means politicians had nothing to do with it.

What does 9-11 and the 2 wars that followed have to do with what was handed to GWB?
I see so according to you the Iraq and Afghan wars started before the year 2001.


GWB was handed these events and by 2007 had our country back on track to a balanced budget (the tax payers did)
How convenient of you to exclude the Bush deficit m fro2008-2009 of which was higher the any deficit under obama
 
The Obama budget deficits originated during the Bush presidency...

1. Tax cuts 2001-2002 (4 trillion over 10 years)
2. Prescription drug benefits (1 trillion over 10 years)
3. Economic meltdown of 2008 ( 3 trillion and rising)
4. Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (2 trillion and winding down)

Chris we had a 163 billion dollar deficit in 2007, the last GOP budget
so
1 thru 4 is a lie. There is no way we have a year in which we are that close to a balanced budget years after those policies in place if they were the problem'
The problem is we have close to 5 million people fewer working today than in 2008
the problem is we spent 2.7 trillion in 07
we spent 3.7 in 2010
spending has nothing to do with any of your claims
the credit bubble had 0 to do with any politician
stupid people making greedy choices that all of us paid for

Are you really so much of aretard that you cant realize the fact that the policies putin place that caused thehi deficits were all conservative policies?
 
The talking point that Bush doubled the deficit is true.....but that was over two terms. 8 years.

12/31/2001 BUSH $5,943,438,563,436

to

12/31/2008 BUSH $10,699,804,864,612

Now to Obama:eusa_whistle:

12/31/2011 OBAMA $15,125,898,976,397

Well, looky looky how fast that happened!!

Really interesting chart:

National Debt by Presidential Term - per Capita and as Percentage of GDP
What is really interesting is that the last Bush citwas 1eficit was 1.5trillion dollars while the last Obama one was 1.4trillion
 
Papa Obama is spending almost at the speed of light or
Move Over Einstein, there is a new kid in town

albert-i4083.jpg



We know that many on the racist right have tried to play up Papa Obama's deficit spending as having no end in sight.
But, through my sources at DNC, I have been given inside knowledge of Papa Obama's theory on deficit spending. Papa Obama has actually found a universal constant to spending.

Apparently, he has based it on another's work but not as smart as Papa Obama to see the big picture

E= MC^2
where:
E= socialist egalitarianism
M= Gross National Product
C= speed of spending- which is a constant
It is so simple and beautiful​

Let us approximate on our current deficit spending to show us how this works
(using 365 days) h/t to RealDealPolitics

At 4 trillion dollars a year, what we actually have....
Per actual day $10,958,904,110
Per actual hour $456,621,005
Per actual minute $7,610,350
Per actual second $126,839


Indeed as spending approaches the same number of units per second for the speed of light or 186,282 miles per second, we will reach our Progressive Utopia. In Papa Obama's theory, as we approach this speed of spending constant the National Debt will actually slow down. Of course, once achieving this Utopia, the masses will respond in kind by being the most productive ever in history and at that point the Deficit will just "wither away". Man will truly become free...

Man, at last the master of his own form of social organization, becomes at the same time the lord over Nature, his own master — free.


Trying to build on Papa Obama's theory, some progressives, like Krugman, are hard at work to see if we can break this constant of spending to see if it would be possible to even reverse the National Debt.

These are most exciting times we live in comrades

Remember,
Papa Obama IS working, we just need more spending to get there !
 
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ZZZ chill out
Us retarded people cannot stay with you
Spending 2007 2.7 trillion
same 2010 was 3.7 trillion
who do we blame for that?
 

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