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The context is: how trustworthy can CBS be now, or any of the MSM for that matter, when they have been trashing trump for months and months? And that was within the context of how Trump is doing. I am not likely to use CBS to evaluate that.
And that is not a logical fallacy.
Of course it is. You're attacking the source without looking at the content, or the context in which it is reported. If you don't trust ANY of the MSM because of their reporting in the past, then you're violating the rules of this thread.
You're right that I don't trust much if any of the MSM based on their track record of being untrustworthy. You are wrong that I did not look at the content. And you are wrong that I am violating the rules of this thread. Again I caution you to respond to the post and not your opinion of me--see Rule #1 for this thread or add your own observations.
The topic is how Trump is doing since the inauguration. One of the glaring components of that is the obvious media war between Trump and the media making that appropriate for comment.
If there's a war between the MSM and Trump, that is Trump's own doing. At every single one of his rallies, he told the 20,000 people in attendance to turn and look at the media covering the event, and declare them to be evil people. If he wants "good" coverage, he certainly doesn't act like it.
Your posts reflect a fundamentalist, religious distrust of all media. That makes it difficult to discuss any points with you, as we've seen. What sort of media coverage do you trust?
What media I trust is not the topic of this thread, but I trust media that provides the who, what, where, when, why and how without prejudice. The thread is not about me.
Trump is participating in the media war for sure, but he damn sure didn't start it. And I am happy that he is confronting it head on instead of allowing the media to misrepresent the facts with impunity.
Actually in his handling of the media, I wish he would do it differently, but then it worked for him to get him elected so he may be a lot smarter about that than I am. I do suspect he deliberate dangles red meat in front of them because of the entirely predictable meltdown that will follow. And the more meltdowns there are, the better and more credible he looks.
So all in all, I think he is doing pretty well in that regard.
It's impossible to debate with you if you respond to each reported story containing facts with "well, that's the MSM, and I'll never believe that."
It was my belief that you wished to have a constructive debate. It now seems you do not. CBS is a very old, well-respected media company. I'm not quoting ThinkProgress here.
Please support your claim that "Trump damned sure didn't start" the media war with supporting facts. From what I've seen, Trump has insulted the media at every turn, often in scary fashion. It cannot be easy to be a reporter in the bullpen at a Trump rally and have the leader of the rally tell all people in the audience to look at you with disdain. That's borderline inciting violence. This will not endear you to the press when you behave this way.
Do you believe the media reporting of the inaugural crowd size was false, and therefore Trump was justified in sending Spicer out there to respond so vociferously (and falsely)?
Final warning. This thread is not about me. Please address the posts and not your opinion of me--you don't have to agree but you do have to address the post and not me or any other member directly. Again I am trying to allow people get accustomed to the thread rules before I start reporting. If you don't like the way the discussion is going, I will thank you for your participation and hope you find something more to your liking elsewhere or others on the thread to discuss things with.
Yes I believe the media reporting of the inaugural crowd size was false. I have too many friends who were there and who dispute it not to believe that. Was it as large as Trump claims? I don't know as it is logical that a town with a large majority African American population and a town that voted 22 to 1 for Hillary would show up for Obama's inauguration and not for Trump. Most of Trump's audience would have come from out of town, it was a cold, rainy day, and all that would contribute to a smaller crowd.
Was the television audience larger for Obama? Yes. But a huge number of people watching the inauguration were not watching on television but were live streaming it on their computers, Ipads, and phones. So it is likely that as many or more people watched this inauguration.
But then there was this, this morning that I am still waiting for authentication before I know it wasn't photoshopped:
CNN Quietly Releases Updated Pic Showing Trump’s Inaugural Crowd Size Greater than Obama’s 2009 Inaugural Crowd
The only reason this is pertinent to the thread topic is that the MSM, attack sites on the internet, message boards etc. are keeping it alive so it continues to be an issue for the new administration. Do I think Trump is smart for treating it as an issue? Not really. But he has gotten to where he is by doing it his way, so I have to allow that he may very well be right. Keep poking at them and they sooner or later self destruct.
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