The Treaty of Tripoli - The End of the Argument

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    There is a little known document that is not generally taught in American history that essentially ends the argument of whether the Founders intended America to be a Christian nation. It’s called the Treaty of Tripoli, specifically, Article 11.

    "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries." -- Signed, George Washington, President of the United States, 4 November 1796.

    “ … the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”

    When the Treaty came before the new government of John Adams to be ratified, it was read ALOUD in it’s entirety on the floor of the Senate, and copies were distributed to every senator. It passed UNANIMOUSLY on June 7, 1797.(1) The caps are meant for those who may believe or may want to believe this an obscure document passed in the dead of night by a few equally obscure politicians. That would be a false reading of the facts. A true reading of the facts demonstrates that Washington, Adams, and the Senate went out of their way to record this and affirmation of their sentiment on the separation of church and state.

    Upon passage, Adams signed the treaty and proclaimed it to the nation on 10 June 1797 and he wrote the following:

    "Now be it known, That I John Adams, President of the United States of America, having seen and considered the said Treaty do, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, accept, ratify, and confirm the same, and every clause and article thereof. And to the End that the said Treaty may be observed and performed with good Faith on the part of the United States, I have ordered the premises to be made public; And I do hereby enjoin and require all persons bearing office civil or military within the United States, and all other citizens or inhabitants thereof, faithfully to observe and fulfill the said Treaty and every clause and article thereof."
    reduced. 4-5 paragraphs then read the rest at the link
    http://www.politicalgroove.com/showthread.php?20666-The-Treaty-of-Tripoli-The-End-Of-the-Argument

    1. US Treaty with Tripoli, 1796-1797
     
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    Some will believe anything to retain failed ideas
     
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    I agree.

    They are free to believe anything they want .. they just aren't free to call it fact.
     
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    really?

    :rofl:
     
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    They are free to call it anything the want. Calling things as we see em is a great American sport.
     
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    Yes I would agree.

    It seems there is a faction of Americans who refuse cold hard facts that would destroy the validity of their opinions.

    They even after being made aware of these facts just deny the facts off hand and choose to continue believing their failed ideas.

    Why would people choose to lie to themselves and others?

    I just dont understand that mindset and how they sleep at night after insulting anyone and everyone who doesnt share in their lie propped up failed ideas.

    I wonder what they feel they are gaining with such silly self deception?
     
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    an honest conversation with yourself should give you your answer.
     
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    It comes almost natural .. inherent in their beliefs.

    They don't even notice their own failure of intelligence.
     
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    Reality

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    The reason I call it the end of the argument is because all people like you have against the truth of it is attacks on those of us who know history.

    This is your third post .. not a single word of real debate, not a single word to challenge the truth of it.

    thanks for your cooperation.
     

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