The Tragedy of Palestine

[u2scram]

FACT 1: It is self evident that no one has the right to take someone else’s land.

FACT 2: That kind of thing may have been acceptable in the colonial era of the 18th or 19th century, by the mid 20th century it was not acceptable.

FACT 3: Israel did not exist before 1948. Palestine did. That simple fact alone tells you were justice lies in this matter!

FACT 4: “The population of Palestine, predominantly agricultural, was about 690,000 in 1914 (535,000 Muslims; 70,000 Christians, most of whom were Arabs; and 85,000 Jews)." (Encyclopaedia Britannica).

FACT 5: There was no substantial Jewish population until after ww2 when Jews were 'imported'. Often wealthy Zionists financed them. Wealthy Zionists who incidentally, decided to remain were they where!

FACT 6: The Chinese have used these same tactics (mass immigration) to subjugate Tibet. A similar crime against humanity!

FACT 7: Ancient history is irrelevant but modern history is not.

FACT 8: To claim someone’s land because your ancestors once lived there is merely unreasonable.

FACT 9: To claim it because god gave it to you is insane.

FACT 10: Today's Zionism is based upon religious fundamentalism and racism. Anyone who supports these vile policies must exist in a religious fantasy camp, were seizing the lands of others is a god-given right and anyone who attempts to recover their own land is a terrorist.

 

[docmauser1]

FACT 1:It is self evident that no one has the right to take someone else’s land.

Self-evident to whom? Self-evidently to muslims, but it's muslim supremacism talking, anyway.

FACT 2: That kind of thing may have been acceptable in the colonial era of the 18th or 19th century, by the mid 20th century it was not acceptable.

Perfectly acceptable, of course, and arabs-muslims want to have their share in proving that too.

FACT 3: Israel did not exist before 1948. Palestine did. That simple fact alone tells you were justice lies in this matter!

"Palestine" existed so much that palistanians just can't remember who was their sultan, shakh, president, prime-minister.

FACT 4:“The population of Palestine, predominantly agricultural, was about 690,000 in 1914 (535,000 Muslims; 70,000 Christians, most of whom were Arabs; and 85,000 Jews)." (Encyclopaedia Britannica).FACT 5: There was no substantial Jewish population until after ww2 when Jews were 'imported'. Often wealthy Zionists financed them. Wealthy Zionists who incidentally, decided to remain were they where!

And the importance of this is, exactly, what?

FACT 6: The Chinese have used these same tactics (mass immigration) to subjugate Tibet. A similar crime against humanity!

Something arabs-muslims do with the west. Justice Department, during prosecution of the Holy Land foundation, let public an internal 1991 moslem brotherhood memorandum, which stated: "The Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions."

FACT 7: Ancient history is irrelevant but modern history is not.

Funny, arabs-muslims, would say that.

FACT 8: To claim someone’s land because your ancestors once lived there is merely unreasonable.

Indeed, that's why arabs do it all the time.

FACT 9: To claim it because god gave it to you is insane.

Ah, now we know why muslim bros are insane.

FACT 10: Today's Zionism is based upon religious fundamentalism and racism. Anyone who supports these vile policies must exist in a religious fantasy camp, were seizing the lands of others is a god-given right and anyone who attempts to recover their own land is a terrorist.

Funny, arab fundamentalists and racists, calling others fundamentalists and racists.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

These "facts" are your opinions!! Why is something "O.K." if it happened in the colonial period (like when Europeans took America from the Indians), but not in the 1900's and 1800's? Why is ancient history irrelevent? Therefore, the world should not care if ancient Egyptian artifacts are destroyed! Most ancient artifacts in Israel point to a substantial Jewish/Hebrew presence in that land.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Jews were not the first people in Palestine nor were they ever the only people in Palestine.

There is no historical precedence for an exclusive Jewish state.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[syrenn]

"Palestine" existed so much that palistanians just can't remember who was their sultan, shakh, president, prime-minister.

I always amazes me that they miss this point.

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[P F Tinmore]

"Palestine" existed so much that palistanians just can't remember who was their sultan, shakh, president, prime-minister.

I always amazes me that they miss this point.

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Where does it say that they need all those millstones?

 

[syrenn]

"Palestine" existed so much that palistanians just can't remember who was their sultan, shakh, president, prime-minister.

I always amazes me that they miss this point.

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Where does it say that they need all those millstones?

Where does it say they need land?

 

[jillian]

FACT 1:It is self evident that no one has the right to take someone else’s land.

really?

so i suppose you believe in a right of return for mexicans to texas and california?

fact: people lose land in battle all the time. if the pals didn't want to lose land, they shouldn't have started wars.

now THAT is fact.

fact: israel exists and will continue to exist.

suck it up and live with it.

 

[jillian]

Where does it say they need land?

pftrollmore doesn't understand that to prove a connection to a piece of land, you actually have to have *had* a connection.

funny that.

 

[P F Tinmore]

FACT 1:It is self evident that no one has the right to take someone else’s land.

really?

so i suppose you believe in a right of return for mexicans to texas and california?

fact: people lose land in battle all the time. if the pals didn't want to lose land, they shouldn't have started wars.

now THAT is fact.

fact: israel exists and will continue to exist.

suck it up and live with it.

The Palestinians have never lost a war to Israel.

 

[syrenn]

Where does it say they need land?

pftrollmore doesn't understand that to prove a connection to a piece of land, you actually have to have *had* a connection.

funny that.

Very funny that.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Where does it say they need land?

pftrollmore doesn't understand that to prove a connection to a piece of land, you actually have to have *had* a connection.

funny that.

Results of a DNA study by geneticist Ariella Oppenheim appears to match historical accounts that Arab Israelis and Palestinians,[13][14] together as the one same population, represent modern "descendants of a core population that lived in the area since prehistoric times"

Palestinian people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[syrenn]

Where does it say they need land?

pftrollmore doesn't understand that to prove a connection to a piece of land, you actually have to have *had* a connection.

funny that.

Results of a DNA study by geneticist Ariella Oppenheim appears to match historical accounts that Arab Israelis and Palestinians,[13][14] together as the one same population, represent modern "descendants of a core population that lived in the area since prehistoric times"

Palestinian people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And when has wikipedia been an authority on anything?

 

[P F Tinmore]

pftrollmore doesn't understand that to prove a connection to a piece of land, you actually have to have *had* a connection.

funny that.

Results of a DNA study by geneticist Ariella Oppenheim appears to match historical accounts that Arab Israelis and Palestinians,[13][14] together as the one same population, represent modern "descendants of a core population that lived in the area since prehistoric times"

Palestinian people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And when has wikipedia been an authority on anything?

Ariella Oppenheim is an Israeli geneticist. You can read her reports elsewhere.

 

[jillian]

And when has wikipedia been an authority on anything?

eh.. screw him unless he starts posting threads saying i should get my great grandfather's property in belarus back.

i figure i have more right to that than any "palestinian" has to israeli property.

again, maybe they shouldn't keep starting wars and demanding do-overs.

 

[syrenn]

And when has wikipedia been an authority on anything?

eh.. screw him unless he starts posting threads saying i should get my great grandfather's property in belarus back.

i figure i have more right to that than any "palestinian" has to israeli property.

again, maybe they shouldn't keep starting wars and demanding do-overs.

Hey, i want it! Does that make it mine?

You watch, next thing they are going to want is jordan.

 

[docmauser1]

The Palestinians have never lost a war to Israel.

Cool, that's what we wanted to hear, of course, now palistanians should dispense with their occupational drivel and get a life and a job.

 

[u2scram]

if there were no israel today, only palestine, would the world carve a slice of palestine off and give it to zionists, or anyone else?

 

[docmauser1]

if there were no israel today, only palestine, would the world carve a slice of palestine off and give it to zionists, or anyone else?

Damn, those palistanian cheerleaders are so thick. If there had been no Israel, there would've been no mandate palestine, only a loose geographical zone, named palestine, under ottoman control, later to be divided either between Egypt and Syria, or compeletly syrian. By the way, there would've been no Jordan either, since it's a british creation, the fact that, dumbass arab propagandists just won't know, or recognize.