The Ten Poorest Cities--This May Surprise You

[chanel]

NJ decided that the schools were the problem. So they gave them a bajillion dollars and guess what? They are still shooting each other and failing the state test.

Its a cultural epidemic that can only be fixed by people within that community. If gangs, drugs, and out of wedlock birth are deemed an acceptable lifestyle, it will continue and spread like cancer. No amount of entitlements will change that. And I don't think outsiders really care. The politicians throw money at them to pretend they care and secretly pray they never move into their kids' schools.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

DBCCMSEMPN

Pronunciation: \prə-ˈgre-si-ˌvi-zəm\
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Date: Feb 23, 2010 02:52 PM

1 : Democrats, Being Closet Communists, Must See Earned Money Please Nobody

'It became clear that Congress was determined to pass the bill because DBCCMSEMPN.'

'Glenn Beck is well known for railing against DBCCMSEMPN'

 

[beowolfe]

See next post. This one didn't have the dates in it.

 

[geauxtohell]

Excellent point.

We all know that poverty didn't exist until Democrats created it to subjugate voters.

 

[Misty]

Another thread to bash Democrats instead of discussing meaningful solutions to this problem? Never mind. I had forgotten for a moment this was USMB.

the solution is to get a job. Neither party has the ability to cure laziness.

Thinking the government will help is nothing but a crutch.

 

[MaggieMae]

nice dodge Iowa, by you logic even the poorest of the in our cities would be better off than 90% of the people in the world

BTW NOSMO , the last election cycle played hell in a lot of gov races, a lot of red states turned purple and they tossed their Repuke gov out like dirty bath water

A poor person in this Country living below the poverty line of $15,000 receives food stamps, housing, health care , Unearned Income Credit and other benefits that amounts to $43,000 per year. The average income of an American worker (not in Federal government jobs) is $40,000.

Don't cry to me about America's "poor".

Gee, I'd sure like to see a sourced link to those stats! Especially since a person living below the poverty line has a whole set of income eligible qualifications to meet before he gets a dime. Did you just make that up or did it come from one of those wonderfully reliable websites like FreeRepublic or WorldNetDaily? Or perhaps a Chart By Beck?

 

[Baruch Menachem]

That's falsely linking correlation with causation. Many people have brought up reasons why those cities are the poor, which policies can't do much if there isn't an industry in the area of jobs. It doesn't account to people who may have been rich but then got poor, nor does it account for the fact that poor people maybe had gotten themselves out of poverty. Overall the results would show that these cities are and continue to be poor, but not on an individual case.

Indeed the important questions is why and how did they get that way?

What are the tax rates?
How hard is it to get a license?
What is the corruption level?
What is the quality of the local school district?
How well are property rights protected?
Is there lots of central planning done badly?
are there favored industries that get huge subsides at the expense of the rest of the tax base?
Was the city too dependent on a single industry recently? An industry that no longer exists?


There are all kinds of interesting questions. The thing is, voting Democrat usually results in high taxes, lousy schools, an indifferent or antagonistic bureaucracy, etc etc.

Many of these cities are famous for various of these issues. In Detroit, if a major company wants your house, you have no real recourse against eminent domain.
Syracuse is famous for being the city with the worst record of favored corporations, Detroit is another big offender.

To paraphrase Tolstoy, Happy Cities are all alike, unhappy cities are unhappy each in their own way.

 

[gautama]

Yea yea Iowa Guy, try looking up the ten poorest states in the country,they brillaint red for the most part all with repuke govenors

By what standard? The poorest wage earner in America is richer than 90% of the wage earners in the World.

Not only that.....the lazy SOB not only doesn't pay a dime in taxes.....the asshole gets subsidized by those that do.

In America there IS such a thing as, not only FREE LUNCH......but also CONTINUOUS FREE LUNCHES.

YET.......the lazy assholes of America, championed by such BOGUS CRIMINAL ENTERPRISES like ACORN (the past employer of the MARXIST Muslim PC Protector Obami Salami, and his self-acknowledged pal, the UNREPENTANT, HOMICIDAL MANIACAL COMMIE/TERRORIST Bill Ayers).....and Obami Salami recently aired on tape, NATION WIDE, repeatedly declared his admiration for ACORN.

And, let's be clear about this: the DEM PARTY as a whole.......CONTINUE to smother ACORN with tax-payer monies because ACORN, basically, represents the DEM PARTY's AGENDA.

THAT IS HOW BLATANT THE CORRUPTION OF THE MARXIST and Muslim Protector Obami Salami's DEM PARTY HAS BECOME !!!!!

The MARXIST Muslim PC Protector Obami Salami is DEFECATING on America and then blaming its most ardent critics such as Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck for bringing this FLAGRANT MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE to the Public's attention !!!!!

And, what do the political dopes (and/or dupes) on this Forum do ?????

Predictably, they echo the UNBELIEVABLE BULLSHIT of the MARXIST Muslim PC Protector Obami Salami, and his hapless, albeit poisonous stooges.

 

[beowolfe]

Forbes 10 Richest Cities in the US

City Last GOP Mayor
San Jose, CA Not since the early 70's
Anchorage, AK Current
San Francisco, 1964
Virginia Beach, VA Current
San Diego, CA Current
Anaheim, CA Current
Raleigh, NC 2001
Seattle, WA At least 1969
Washington, DC At least 1961
Honolulu, HI 1992*

*This guy is a democrat, turned republican, turned independent.

 

[beowolfe]

Yea yea Iowa Guy, try looking up the ten poorest states in the country,they brillaint red for the most part all with repuke govenors

By what standard? The poorest wage earner in America is richer than 90% of the wage earners in the World.

Not only that.....the lazy SOB not only doesn't pay a dime in taxes.....the asshole gets subsidized by those that do.

In America there IS such a thing as, not only FREE LUNCH......but also CONTINUOUS FREE LUNCHES.

YET.......the lazy assholes of America, championed by such BOGUS CRIMINAL ENTERPRISES like ACORN (the past employer of the MARXIST Muslim PC Protector Obami Salami, and his self-acknowledged pal, the UNREPENTANT, HOMICIDAL MANIACAL COMMIE/TERRORIST Bill Ayers).....and Obami Salami recently aired on tape, NATION WIDE, repeatedly declared his admiration for ACORN.

And, let's be clear about this: the DEM PARTY as a whole.......CONTINUE to smother ACORN with tax-payer monies because ACORN, basically, represents the DEM PARTY's AGENDA.

THAT IS HOW BLATANT THE CORRUPTION OF THE MARXIST and Muslim Protector Obami Salami's DEM PARTY HAS BECOME !!!!!

The MARXIST Muslim PC Protector Obami Salami is DEFECATING on America and then blaming its most ardent critics such as Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck for bringing this FLAGRANT MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE to the Public's attention !!!!!

And, what do the political dopes (and/or dupes) on this Forum do ?????

Predictably, they echo the UNBELIEVABLE BULLSHIT of the MARXIST Muslim PC Protector Obami Salami, and his hapless, albeit poisonous stooges.

You've been listening to and/or reading too many wingnut publications. You might want to be careful. You sound angry enough to be the next nut who flies a plane into a building.

 

[beowolfe]

QUOTE]

Actually, I believe the point expressed with these stats ius that we can say one thing for sure......Democratic policies, no matter what waqs promised on the trail, do not help the poor rise out of being poor.

Does not mean repoublican policies would....but...we KNOW that democratic policies dont.

So is your solution to simply "let them stay poor"?[/QUOTE]

The numbers don't seem to support your conclusion.

Historical Poverty Tables







Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic
Origin: 1959 to 2006
(Numbers in thousands. People as of March of the following year.)

____________________________________________________________________________
People in families
________________________________
All people All families
________________________________ ________________________________
Below poverty level Below poverty level
______________________ ______________________
Year Total Number Percent Total Number Percent
____________________________________________________________________________
ALL RACES
2006...... 296,450 36,460 12.3 245,199 25,915 10.6
2005...... 293,135 36,950 12.6 242,389 26,068 10.8
2004 14/.. 290,617 37,040 12.7 240,754 26,544 11.0
2003...... 287,699 35,861 12.5 238,903 25,684 10.8
2002...... 285,317 34,570 12.1 236,921 24,534 10.4
2001...... 281,475 32,907 11.7 233,911 23,215 9.9
2000 12/.. 278,944 31,581 11.3 231,909 22,347 9.6
1999 11/.. 276,208 32,791 11.9 230,789 23,830 10.3
1998...... 271,059 34,476 12.7 227,229 25,370 11.2
1997...... 268,480 35,574 13.3 225,369 26,217 11.6
1996...... 266,218 36,529 13.7 223,955 27,376 12.2
1995...... 263,733 36,425 13.8 222,792 27,501 12.3
1994...... 261,616 38,059 14.5 221,430 28,985 13.1
1993 10/.. 259,278 39,265 15.1 219,489 29,927 13.6
1992 9/... 256,549 38,014 14.8 217,936 28,961 13.3
1991 8/... 251,192 35,708 14.2 212,723 27,143 12.8
1990...... 248,644 33,585 13.5 210,967 25,232 12.0
1989...... 245,992 31,528 12.8 209,515 24,066 11.5
1988...... 243,530 31,745 13.0 208,056 24,048 11.6
1987 7/... 240,982 32,221 13.4 206,877 24,725 12.0
1986...... 238,554 32,370 13.6 205,459 24,754 12.0
1985 ..... 236,594 33,064 14.0 203,963 25,729 12.6
1984...... 233,816 33,700 14.4 202,288 26,458 13.1
1983 6/... 231,700 35,303 15.2 201,338 27,933 13.9
1982...... 229,412 34,398 15.0 200,385 27,349 13.6
1981 5/... 227,157 31,822 14.0 198,541 24,850 12.5
1980...... 225,027 29,272 13.0 196,963 22,601 11.5
1979 4/... 222,903 26,072 11.7 195,860 19,964 10.2
1978...... 215,656 24,497 11.4 191,071 19,062 10.0
1977...... 213,867 24,720 11.6 190,757 19,505 10.2
1976...... 212,303 24,975 11.8 190,844 19,632 10.3
1975...... 210,864 25,877 12.3 190,630 20,789 10.9
1974 3/... 209,362 23,370 11.2 190,436 18,817 9.9
1973...... 207,621 22,973 11.1 189,361 18,299 9.7
1972...... 206,004 24,460 11.9 189,193 19,577 10.3
1971 2/... 204,554 25,559 12.5 188,242 20,405 10.8
1970...... 202,183 25,420 12.6 186,692 20,330 10.9
1969...... 199,517 24,147 12.1 184,891 19,175 10.4
1968...... 197,628 25,389 12.8 183,825 20,695 11.3
1967 1/... 195,672 27,769 14.2 182,558 22,771 12.5
1966...... 193,388 28,510 14.7 181,117 23,809 13.1
1965...... 191,413 33,185 17.3 179,281 28,358 15.8
1964...... 189,710 36,055 19.0 177,653 30,912 17.4
1963...... 187,258 36,436 19.5 176,076 31,498 17.9
1962...... 184,276 38,625 21.0 173,263 33,623 19.4
1961...... 181,277 39,628 21.9 170,131 34,509 20.3
1960...... 179,503 39,851 22.2 168,615 34,925 20.7
1959...... 176,557 39,490 22.4 165,858 34,562 20.8

 

[rightwinger]

Maybe because most urban areas in the US have Democratic mayors?

 

[uptownlivin90]

NJ decided that the schools were the problem. So they gave them a bajillion dollars and guess what? They are still shooting each other and failing the state test.

Its a cultural epidemic that can only be fixed by people within that community. If gangs, drugs, and out of wedlock birth are deemed an acceptable lifestyle, it will continue and spread like cancer. No amount of entitlements will change that. And I don't think outsiders really care. The politicians throw money at them to pretend they care and secretly pray they never move into their kids' schools.

Here's a good way we can fix urban/poor areas:

-End the War on Drugs.
-Promote school choice and make education competitive again.
-End unreasonable prohibition of gambling, prostitution, and guns.
-Create jobs using tax cuts and other incentives.
-Fix the health care crisis (these are areas where there ACTUALLY IS a crisis).
-Cut back the fed and give most of the social programs to the states to handle.
-Cut federal income taxes to a low flat easy rate.
-Eliminate "three strike" laws and mandatory sentencing.
-End the militarization of public schools.

 

[uptownlivin90]

Maybe because most urban areas in the US have Democratic mayors?

You'd think somebody would catch on to that. But everyone just wants be partisan assholes. That's why shit never changes.

 

[geauxtohell]

Maybe because most urban areas in the US have Democratic mayors?

You'd think somebody would catch on to that. But everyone just wants be partisan assholes. That's why shit never changes.

Irony.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Isn't Ahnald a Republican?

How's california doin'?

Now, are you done with the sad partisan hackery? Are you ready to discuss real solutions?

Arnold is just a part of the reason.....try one of the worst legislatures in the country....one who's members keep on getting elected,over and over....

 

[Darkwind]

I've always said. Go to any major blue city and take a snapshot of its poor neighborhoods.

Then compare that with a picture taken 30 - 40 - 50 years ago and the only thing you will notice is that the model of the car on blocks has changed.

Right this moment, in Detroit, 1 of every 2 people is unemployed.

50%!!!!!!!!

They have elected progressives for years. It never gets better.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Isn't Ahnald a Republican?

How's california doin'?

Now, are you done with the sad partisan hackery? Are you ready to discuss real solutions?

arnold is as republican as ted kennedy....the damage to california was done prior to arnold showing up.....

true Manu.....but Arnold has not helped the situation.....he just gets pushed around the circle.....and it goes on....

 

[beowolfe]

I've always said. Go to any major blue city and take a snapshot of its poor neighborhoods.

Then compare that with a picture taken 30 - 40 - 50 years ago and the only thing you will notice is that the model of the car on blocks has changed.

Right this moment, in Detroit, 1 of every 2 people is unemployed.

50%!!!!!!!!

They have elected progressives for years. It never gets better.

Are you suggesting that you won't find the same things in the poor neighborhoods of a major RED city????

 

[AvgGuyIA]

nice dodge Iowa, by you logic even the poorest of the in our cities would be better off than 90% of the people in the world

BTW NOSMO , the last election cycle played hell in a lot of gov races, a lot of red states turned purple and they tossed their Repuke gov out like dirty bath water

A poor person in this Country living below the poverty line of $15,000 receives food stamps, housing, health care , Unearned Income Credit and other benefits that amounts to $43,000 per year. The average income of an American worker (not in Federal government jobs) is $40,000.

Don't cry to me about America's "poor".

the $43K a year for a poor person seems very bogus to me

How much do you pay in rent, food and health care monthly. Add on to that about $6,000 - $7,000 for a tax "refund" check the government gives them at the end of the year.