The Tea Party Could Elect The Next President

[Sawbriars]

I think the Tea Party under-estimates it's potential.....the fact is the majority of this nation's voters........the White Working Class is fed up with political correctness, fed up with phoney charges of racism, fed up with a minority that has been given more than any group of people in this nation yet continues to bite the hand that feeds them----whilst clamoring for more and more freebies, government programs etc. and so on and so forth...what do you suppose was behind eric holders call for a conversation on racism and in fact the whole Zimmerman affair? A blatant attempt to set the congressional stage to extort more tax monies from the hard working White Working Class which already supports not only the African Americans but about half of the continent of Africa under the guise of the U.N---where do you think the U.N gets the funds to ship billions of dollars of food to Africa? That's right from the hard working white folks tax monies.....yet the so called African Americans want to constantly play the role of the victim when in fact they are predatory, parasictic and in spite of the 15 trillion dollars of tax payers monies wantonly and wastefully spent on them(that is correct l5 trillion dollars wasted on the war on poverty type social programs) show no signs of progressing ...in fact they are regressing...becoming more uncivilized--beastly and animalistic.

Thus if the Tea Party can come up with a viable candidate, can wrest control of the Republican Part or form their own party....they have a good shot---a very good chance of electing the next President.

 

[Zona]

Best thread evah.

 

[JWBooth]

Goldman-Sachs will elect the next president.

 

[Toronado3800]

I think the Tea Party under-estimates it's potential.....the fact is the majority of this nation's voters........the White Working Class is fed up with political correctness, fed up with phoney charges of racism, fed up with a minority that has been given more than any group of people in this nation yet continues to bite the hand that feeds them----whilst clamoring for more and more freebies, government programs etc. and so on and so forth...what do you suppose was behind eric holders call for a conversation on racism and in fact the whole Zimmerman affair? A blatant attempt to set the congressional stage to extort more tax monies from the hard working White Working Class which already supports not only the African Americans but about half of the continent of Africa under the guise of the U.N---where do you think the U.N gets the funds to ship billions of dollars of food to Africa? That's right from the hard working white folks tax monies.....yet the so called African Americans want to constantly play the role of the victim when in fact they are predatory, parasictic and in spite of the 15 trillion dollars of tax payers monies wantonly and wastefully spent on them(that is correct l5 trillion dollars wasted on the war on poverty type social programs) show no signs of progressing ...in fact they are regressing...becoming more uncivilized--beastly and animalistic.

Thus if the Tea Party can come up with a viable candidate, can wrest control of the Republican Part or form their own party....they have a good shot---a very good chance of electing the next President.

They could. Its an interesting problem they face though. Folks still remember the Little House TV series with Michael Landon and. ...... Mellissa Gilbert? Laura Ingalls Wilder character. Oh lord, I am forgetting.

Well point is, small government then left our civilized cities soo miserable men like Pa Ingalls took his family to the edge of Indian terrotory to enjoy big government giveaways of land.

Couple that with the lessons of healthcare rationed by capitalism everyone with a pet learns and you have Mitts running states with compelled healthcare.

Well the tea's can still try to pick up white votes. I don't know why they would target just whites. Seems odd given demographic trends. Oh well. Too bad. They have some decent points.

 

[Statist]

What does race have to do with anything. If the next president is a Tea Party member, it will be because the populace is fed up with high taxes and big government, not because their tired of the UN's work in Africa. Also, you said that the charges of racism in the Tea Party were "phoney," but in the same post you say African Americans are, "predatory, parasitic...becoming more uncivilized--beastly and animalistic." Seems like these charges aren't phoney at all.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Thus if the Tea Party can come up with a viable candidate, can wrest control of the Republican Part or form their own party....they have a good shot---a very good chance of electing the next President.

And you will need Arod batting clean up: guess what?

The mainstream GOP will not accept a goofball reactionary from the far right: won't happen.

 

[Zona]

What does race have to do with anything. If the next president is a Tea Party member, it will be because the populace is fed up with high taxes and big government, not because their tired of the UN's work in Africa. Also, you said that the charges of racism in the Tea Party were "phoney," but in the same post you say African Americans are, "predatory, parasitic...becoming more uncivilized--beastly and animalistic." Seems like these charges aren't phoney at all.

Sarah Palin!!!!! Please.

 

[Sawbriars]

I think the Tea Party under-estimates it's potential.....the fact is the majority of this nation's voters........the White Working Class is fed up with political correctness, fed up with phoney charges of racism, fed up with a minority that has been given more than any group of people in this nation yet continues to bite the hand that feeds them----whilst clamoring for more and more freebies, government programs etc. and so on and so forth...what do you suppose was behind eric holders call for a conversation on racism and in fact the whole Zimmerman affair? A blatant attempt to set the congressional stage to extort more tax monies from the hard working White Working Class which already supports not only the African Americans but about half of the continent of Africa under the guise of the U.N---where do you think the U.N gets the funds to ship billions of dollars of food to Africa? That's right from the hard working white folks tax monies.....yet the so called African Americans want to constantly play the role of the victim when in fact they are predatory, parasictic and in spite of the 15 trillion dollars of tax payers monies wantonly and wastefully spent on them(that is correct l5 trillion dollars wasted on the war on poverty type social programs) show no signs of progressing ...in fact they are regressing...becoming more uncivilized--beastly and animalistic.

Thus if the Tea Party can come up with a viable candidate, can wrest control of the Republican Part or form their own party....they have a good shot---a very good chance of electing the next President.

They could. Its an interesting problem they face though. Folks still remember the Little House TV series with Michael Landon and. ...... Mellissa Gilbert? Laura Ingalls Wilder character. Oh lord, I am forgetting.

Well point is, small government then left our civilized cities soo miserable men like Pa Ingalls took his family to the edge of Indian terrotory to enjoy big government giveaways of land.

Couple that with the lessons of healthcare rationed by capitalism everyone with a pet learns and you have Mitts running states with compelled healthcare.

Well the tea's can still try to pick up white votes. I don't know why they would target just whites. Seems odd given demographic trends. Oh well. Too bad. They have some decent points.

Your fallacy here is you do not understand the true demographic facts.....do not take lessons on demographics from msnbc, abc, cbs, cnn--etc. and so on and so forth(though the mainstream republicans obviously do)the fact is the White Working Class is the only class that had enough votes in and of itself to elect a President........now the libtards, msnbc, abc, cbs, etc. and so on and so forth will try and tell you the Hispanic vote was what elected Obama....a blatant falsehood....the White Working Class won the election for Obama.

 

[Sawbriars]

What does race have to do with anything. If the next president is a Tea Party member, it will be because the populace is fed up with high taxes and big government, not because their tired of the UN's work in Africa. Also, you said that the charges of racism in the Tea Party were "phoney," but in the same post you say African Americans are, "predatory, parasitic...becoming more uncivilized--beastly and animalistic." Seems like these charges aren't phoney at all.

I hope you are not a Tea Party member as you are absolutely clueless.......anyhow.....anyone that does not recognize 'race' as the central problem in America is probably too out of touch to even try and enlighten.....irregardless....here goes: this mantra of 'high taxes and big government' has now led the Republican party to two defeats and if your kind has their way it will lead to a third loss....and it would not surprise me as the fat cat republicans, the elitist republicans, the politically correct republicans as of yet maintain control of the republican party.

Now regarding my sidepoint of the White Working Class being the ones paying the most to support the Africans...I mean the Africans in America and in Africa....most do not even understand that....they have heard about the U.N. sending all that aid over to Africa but they fail to understand America's white working class pays for it...thus the main reason they are not frigging out about it....the amount of money...I am talking about Amerian Tax Money that is sent over to Africa is not broadcast...in fact they(the libtards in government)try to keep it quiet.

Now about the 'phoney charges' of racism I mentioned....yes they are phoney because the whole modern concept of racism is phoney. The definition of racism was changed circa.....1958---it was politicized...so that liberals could use it as a political weapon. The true definition of racism in the King of Dictionaries....The Oxford English Dictionary was altered at that time. Thus all the charges of racism directed at the Tea Party are based on that fallacious definition, that politically correct definition and thus they are phoney as in false.

When I say the primitive Africans whom were imported into this America are regressing....that is a fact...the so called African Americans were more civilized, more moral, more honest, more family oriented, and much more loyal to America prior to the sixties when they were misled by the liberals, agitators, black communist activists etc. and so on and so forth.

 

[Sawbriars]

I meant to include the original definition of racism as in the Oxford English Dictionary................
OED Definition of 'Racism'



I pulled this definition of 'racism' off the Oxford English Dictionary website. Most people can't access it unless they have access through a university or other academic organization.

[f. RACE n.2 + -ISM; cf. F. racisme (Robert 1935).]

The theory that distinctive human characteristics and abilities are determined by race


Now contrast the above OED definition with the current pc definitions you can find online and it is clear how the definition became politized.....and this is why the pc republicans get mired in a tar baby like situation by charges of racism from the libs...the more the republicans or tea party membes get caught up in the racist game the libs are playing them with...the more entangled and trapped they get.

The republicans or for that matter...most Americans fail to understand how and why the definition of racism was changed back around 1958.

 

[Sawbriars]

How has your hard earned tax monies been spent in Africa.....well....actually very little of it gets to the poor starving masses.....as the governments of Africa are models in corruption......here are some examples of where your tax dollars go.......http://pendletonpanther.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/2010collage.jpg

 

[Sawbriars]

Thus if the Tea Party can come up with a viable candidate, can wrest control of the Republican Part or form their own party....they have a good shot---a very good chance of electing the next President.

And you will need Arod batting clean up: guess what?

The mainstream GOP will not accept a goofball reactionary from the far right: won't happen.

heh heh......I got news for you.....the GOP without the Real Conservatives are doomed....oh they might last through one more agonizing defeat...but then they for sure will be relegated to the dustbin of history....but if the more enlightened can gain control of the Republican Party...aka the Tea Party members and their supporters then it is possible to win next time.

So the republicans must make a dicision...do they want to continue as a party or be shrugged off as irrelevant and a party that can only field losers...as they have done now two times in a row....3 strikes and they are out. Deal wid it chump.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Thus if the Tea Party can come up with a viable candidate, can wrest control of the Republican Part or form their own party....they have a good shot---a very good chance of electing the next President.

And you will need Arod batting clean up: guess what?

The mainstream GOP will not accept a goofball reactionary from the far right: won't happen.

So the republicans must make a dicision..

heh heh . . . you are an idiot if you believe that . . . there will be no freak far right reactionary candidate as pres or veep on the ticket. You need us far more than we need you. Get on board or be swept away, chump.

 

[Toronado3800]

I think the Tea Party under-estimates it's potential.....the fact is the majority of this nation's voters........the White Working Class is fed up with political correctness, fed up with phoney charges of racism, fed up with a minority that has been given more than any group of people in this nation yet continues to bite the hand that feeds them----whilst clamoring for more and more freebies, government programs etc. and so on and so forth...what do you suppose was behind eric holders call for a conversation on racism and in fact the whole Zimmerman affair? A blatant attempt to set the congressional stage to extort more tax monies from the hard working White Working Class which already supports not only the African Americans but about half of the continent of Africa under the guise of the U.N---where do you think the U.N gets the funds to ship billions of dollars of food to Africa? That's right from the hard working white folks tax monies.....yet the so called African Americans want to constantly play the role of the victim when in fact they are predatory, parasictic and in spite of the 15 trillion dollars of tax payers monies wantonly and wastefully spent on them(that is correct l5 trillion dollars wasted on the war on poverty type social programs) show no signs of progressing ...in fact they are regressing...becoming more uncivilized--beastly and animalistic.

Thus if the Tea Party can come up with a viable candidate, can wrest control of the Republican Part or form their own party....they have a good shot---a very good chance of electing the next President.

They could. Its an interesting problem they face though. Folks still remember the Little House TV series with Michael Landon and. ...... Mellissa Gilbert? Laura Ingalls Wilder character. Oh lord, I am forgetting.

Well point is, small government then left our civilized cities soo miserable men like Pa Ingalls took his family to the edge of Indian terrotory to enjoy big government giveaways of land.

Couple that with the lessons of healthcare rationed by capitalism everyone with a pet learns and you have Mitts running states with compelled healthcare.

Well the tea's can still try to pick up white votes. I don't know why they would target just whites. Seems odd given demographic trends. Oh well. Too bad. They have some decent points.

Your fallacy here is you do not understand the true demographic facts.....do not take lessons on demographics from msnbc, abc, cbs, cnn--etc. and so on and so forth(though the mainstream republicans obviously do)the fact is the White Working Class is the only class that had enough votes in and of itself to elect a President........now the libtards, msnbc, abc, cbs, etc. and so on and so forth will try and tell you the Hispanic vote was what elected Obama....a blatant falsehood....the White Working Class won the election for Obama.

This race talk is totally not how to win elections but whatever. We can talk about birth certificates and Sarah Palin's hair if you would like also.

On a practical level since Carter Democrats have received low 40%'s of the white non hispanic vote. In the last election it was 39%. That is ~6% less than in the closer election of 2008. The power of the pale man in America is diminishing.

But yes, in racist fantasy land if you unite the white folks they can win a majority in states besides Texas (38), California (55), Hawaii (4) D.C. (3) and New Mexico (5). That should win you 433 is electoral votes.

Go on again about whities being great, this is costing the Tea Party votes with every keystroke you make. Is white superiority cultural or genetic?

 

[ABikerSailor]

I think that with the past behavior of the Tea Party who have managed to bring Congress to an almost standstill, combined with the way they've all but taken over the House and gotten Boehner to kowtow to their ideals, the chances of having a Tea Party candidate win the Presidency is somewhere between none and zip.

Sorry...................but with tea baggers like Ted Cruz who is threatening to shut down the government unless Obamacare is repealed (and incidentally, many of the GOP think it's a bad idea as well), the people who adhere to the tea party ideals are too unstable to run a viable campaign.

But..................nice pipe dream................

 

[Toronado3800]

It does seem possible the tea party in a fit of dying white rage can pull 10% or more of the Republican vote and change the outcome of the election in 2016. You would think if it went to the electoral college they would get their stuff together and just fall in line with the less far from them Repubs.

But then again it seems more likely that 10% will cost Republicans in the electoral college and let the Democrats win an outright majority of electors. This will get us our first female President and correspondingly first male first lady, Bill, who manages to distract everyone from any issue of importance by being on TMZ every night.

Hey, in '68 did George Wallace lose the Democrats that election or think his votes came from the Nixon camp?

 

[Sawbriars]

And you will need Arod batting clean up: guess what?

The mainstream GOP will not accept a goofball reactionary from the far right: won't happen.

So the republicans must make a dicision..

heh heh . . . you are an idiot if you believe that . . . there will be no freak far right reactionary candidate as pres or veep on the ticket. You need us far more than we need you. Get on board or be swept away, chump.

Ridiculous....when was the last time you have been right about anything? You are on record predicting a Romney victory....thus your credibility and political analysis leaves much to be desired to put it as nicely as I can.

Irregardless....you and your ilk are the big problem of the republican party....the politically correct bullshite your group espouses spells certain defeat for the republicans if you can remain in control of that increasingly irrelevant group.

 

[Sawbriars]

They could. Its an interesting problem they face though. Folks still remember the Little House TV series with Michael Landon and. ...... Mellissa Gilbert? Laura Ingalls Wilder character. Oh lord, I am forgetting.

Well point is, small government then left our civilized cities soo miserable men like Pa Ingalls took his family to the edge of Indian terrotory to enjoy big government giveaways of land.

Couple that with the lessons of healthcare rationed by capitalism everyone with a pet learns and you have Mitts running states with compelled healthcare.

Well the tea's can still try to pick up white votes. I don't know why they would target just whites. Seems odd given demographic trends. Oh well. Too bad. They have some decent points.

Your fallacy here is you do not understand the true demographic facts.....do not take lessons on demographics from msnbc, abc, cbs, cnn--etc. and so on and so forth(though the mainstream republicans obviously do)the fact is the White Working Class is the only class that had enough votes in and of itself to elect a President........now the libtards, msnbc, abc, cbs, etc. and so on and so forth will try and tell you the Hispanic vote was what elected Obama....a blatant falsehood....the White Working Class won the election for Obama.

This race talk is totally not how to win elections but whatever. We can talk about birth certificates and Sarah Palin's hair if you would like also.

On a practical level since Carter Democrats have received low 40%'s of the white non hispanic vote. In the last election it was 39%. That is ~6% less than in the closer election of 2008. The power of the pale man in America is diminishing.

But yes, in racist fantasy land if you unite the white folks they can win a majority in states besides Texas (38), California (55), Hawaii (4) D.C. (3) and New Mexico (5). That should win you 433 is electoral votes.

Go on again about whities being great, this is costing the Tea Party votes with every keystroke you make. Is white superiority cultural or genetic?

Your fear of talking about race and racism is indicative of the pathetic position that a party which has been successfully labeled as 'racist' by the libs has no clue in how to deal with it......thus you try and avoid it, deny it, try and use the same tactics the democrats use i.e. call them racists.....but in the end like brer rabbit and the tarbaby you are stuck and entangled and have no clue as to how to solve the dilemma you and your gop find yourselves in.

Also your understanding of demographic facts is pathetic.......let me give you a clue...the White Voters will remain in the majority for the next 50 yrs. so all the doomsday talk about the shrinking demographics of the White Working Class is extremely pre-mature.

Everything you're hearing from the MSM is untrue: Romney lost because he failed to get the share of white vote that the Congressional GOP got in 2010--above all, the white working class. The GOP Establishment now wants to dig its grave deeper with amnesty. Etc etc.

 

[Sawbriars]

I think that with the past behavior of the Tea Party who have managed to bring Congress to an almost standstill, combined with the way they've all but taken over the House and gotten Boehner to kowtow to their ideals, the chances of having a Tea Party candidate win the Presidency is somewhere between none and zip.

Sorry...................but with tea baggers like Ted Cruz who is threatening to shut down the government unless Obamacare is repealed (and incidentally, many of the GOP think it's a bad idea as well), the people who adhere to the tea party ideals are too unstable to run a viable campaign.

But..................nice pipe dream................

You do not understand we are in Revolutionary times....the media which you worship has indoctrinated you and the mainstream republicans with nonsense. You live in a fantasy world....your political hopes can all be summed up in the tired and completely disproven repoublican mantra of lower taxes and smaller government....pathetic.

Such nonsense will not cut it and the last two elections have proven it...yet you and the republicans want to go into the next election(if you are republican your are the kind too close to democratic views) with the same nonsense.....aka the definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over and expecting different results. Plainly speaking you and or the republicans are stuck in a losing mode because your agenda does not address America's problems and most specifically the problems of the White Working Class.

 

[Sawbriars]

Republican Rout In Virginia—Even Before The Election


Immigration patriots(tea party)—meaning real Americans—can only view the top GOP politicians in the Old Dominion with pity and contempt.
•In March, gubernatorial nominee Ken Cuccinelli scrubbed his website of its immigration page. [Ken Cuccinelli’s airbrushed policies, Washington Post, March 19, 2013]
•In July, Mark Obenshain, the GOP candidate for attorney general—who launched his career on the memory of his father Richard, tragically killed in a 1978 plane crash shortly after winning the U.S. Senate nomination—sent fawning Ramadan greetings to the commonwealth’s Mohammedans.
•Most recently, Rep. Bob Goodlatte, a fairly reliable conservative who represents the state’s 6th congressional district, began working with…
•House Majority Leader Eric Cantor , who represents Virginia’s 7th, on a KIDS Act that would grant amnesty for illegal-alien children.

Goodlatte is a Christian Scientist; Cantor is Jewish. So we have one man who believes in the 19th-century version of Scientology, and another whose coreligionists have arguably wrecked U.S. immigration policy and are now pushing hard for the 2013 Amnesty/ Immigration Surge bill, trying to give the Left a major gift: more Democrat voters.

But let’s take these one at a time. Why did the Cooch, as he is known, get out the Stalinist cyber-erasers and wipe his website clean of immigration talk? As The Washington Post noted, he was, to some degree, what the Left disparages as a “hardliner” on immigration. He supported Arizona’s law that permitted police to check the immigration status of those stopped lawfully by police, and then issued an opinion that Prince William County’s cops could indeed inquire about the immigration status of those they stop. He even wanted, at one time, to end birthright citizenship.

But now as James Hohmann recently reported in Politico, his “immigration tone varies with venue.” [July 25, 2013]

Perhaps Cuccinelli fears a backlash from the state’s Leftist Catholics and their bishops, who peddle the lie that Catholic social teaching dogmatically requires assent to their nutty position on immigration.

But another possibility is this: The pro-homosexual, pro-abortion Left and Main Stream Media (where distinguishable) have successfully painted Cuccinelli (along with E.W. Jackson, the surprise black candidate for lieutenant governor) as religious extremists. This has panicked “moderate” Republicans into thinking Cuccinelli cannot win the election against Democrat Terry McAuliffe, a renegade Catholic leftist. With typical cowardice, they are bolting. Thus Bill Bolling, who quit the governor’s race after Cuccinelli’s forces took control of the state party’s nominating process, has formed the Virginia Mainstream Project to convince Republicans that the only important issues for Virginians are jobs and the economy.

By retreating on immigration, Cuccinelli and his consultants probably think they are lowering his profile on what is in some sense a “social” issue, at least as the Left portrays it. For the Left,
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...................By A.W. Morgan