The Story of Stuff Debunked. How The Liberal World View is a Lie.

[Publius1787]

lmfao...the spirit of Hayek has been captured by the modern day GOP.

Wow, keep drinking the kool-aid.

I'm not going to bite. I own 5 of his publications and I think I have a decent grasp of the austrian school.

Then you should be readily aware of the distortion of Liberalism, but you are not. Instead, you conflate this distortion rather than mitigate it.

You are nothing, but a self-righteous RW hack.

Thanks for playing.

Name calling without meaning and nothing to back it up is a desperate mans last resort when all intelectual ability has been exausted.

 

[Antiderivative]

Wow. You bit the hook. To save time typing look at my responses to him. That should clear things up. You responded exactly as he wanted you to.

??? I thought she was right on target with what I thought was your thesis or where I thought you were going with this.

He was trying to draw or perhaps erase the destinction of classical liberal vs modern liberal. Either way he aim was to hyjack the thread and boost his intelectual ego with a non related topic. He suceeded. But yes, she is right.

I am aware of this distinction. However, you RW kooks have hijacked classical liberalism and have falsely embodied it in the modern GOP.

How fucking dishonest can you get? Disturbingly, you can get extremely dishonest.

 

[Antiderivative]

I really do find it disturbing that after 30 years of hard reich conservatism, that you hacks have consolidated powers rather than distributed them to the states, except in areas of stem cell research.

Then you fucktards turn around and claim that Liberalism is a failure while claiming Hayek one of your own.

You people are so fucked up. You really don't understand reality.

 

[Publius1787]

??? I thought she was right on target with what I thought was your thesis or where I thought you were going with this.

He was trying to draw or perhaps erase the destinction of classical liberal vs modern liberal. Either way he aim was to hyjack the thread and boost his intelectual ego with a non related topic. He suceeded. But yes, she is right.

I am aware of this distinction. However, you RW kooks have hijacked classical liberalism and have falsely embodied it in the modern GOP.

How fucking dishonest can you get? Disturbingly, you can get extremely dishonest.

And how did I embodie it in the modern GOP? What have I said to lead you to such a false concludsion? Though Hyek is closer to the modern conservativs than the modern liberals he is closest to libritarians. So whats your point? Such false accusations om my character must be backed by something. So show me. Where have I related Hyek to the GOP? And what does Hyek have to do with this thread? What does the word "liberal" and its classic definition have to do with this thread? What kind of a nut goes around introducing unwanted topics. Yes I am responding to them. But to the likes of poking a suffering animal with a stick.

 

[Publius1787]

I really do find it disturbing that after 30 years of hard reich conservatism, that you hacks have consolidated powers rather than distributed them to the states, except in areas of stem cell research.

Then you fucktards turn around and claim that Liberalism is a failure while claiming Hayek one of your own.

You people are so fucked up. You really don't understand reality.

Yet another weired and unsolicited statement. Would it help to tell you I agree with you? Would it also help to tell you that no one has raised the topic of federalism, states rights, or the 10th amendment but you? How can you come to a concludsion on topics that no one is bringing up in a thread that isnt ment to address any of them? Your full of energy arent you? Do me a favor. Go outside and scream at the first person you come across. You'll feel better. I am a libritarian but damn. There are certainly some emotionally distressed wacko's out there. How about alittle civility huh?

 

[Antiderivative]

He was trying to draw or perhaps erase the destinction of classical liberal vs modern liberal. Either way he aim was to hyjack the thread and boost his intelectual ego with a non related topic. He suceeded. But yes, she is right.

I am aware of this distinction. However, you RW kooks have hijacked classical liberalism and have falsely embodied it in the modern GOP.

How fucking dishonest can you get? Disturbingly, you can get extremely dishonest.

And how did I embodie it in the modern GOP? What have I said to lead you to such a false concludsion? Though Hyek is closer to the modern conservativs than the modern liberals he is closest to libritarians. So whats your point? Such false accusations om my character must be backed by something. So show me. Where have I related Hyek to the GOP? And what does Hyek have to do with this thread? What does the word "liberal" and its classic definition have to do with this thread? What kind of a nut goes around introducing unwanted topics. Yes I am responding to them. But to the likes of poking a suffering animal with a stick.

You have related Hayek to Conservatism, when he is clearly not. What sort of nutbag does that?

Plus, you attack liberalism without truly knowing what liberalism is about. Unfortunately, you have strengthened my thesis; RW kooks and Modern day liberals distort Liberalism into their own liking.

Then you Kooks go about and post a thread on the tragedies of Liberalism without fully realizing what Liberalism is all about.

We should all be about Conservatism and vote Republican....lmfao.

 

[rdean]

What right wingers have done is turned "help they neighbor" into "socialism" and "every man for himself" into their idea of what America is all about.

I refuse to believe America is a nation of greed that turns it's back on the less fortunate. Right wingers want to live that way, fine. But it is they who are isolated.

 

[Antiderivative]

I refuse to believe America is a nation of greed that turns it's back on the less fortunate.

Then you refuse to live in reality. For instance, every corporate subsidy is taken from the taxpayer and that money cannot be used to help the less unfortunate.

Whether you agree with income distribution or not, this is what happens. And when America "donates", our donations do not go directly to the people that are suffering, but to a corrupt government who is supposed to alleviate these people from suffering.

Your America is a false America.

 

[daveman]

I am aware of this distinction. However, you RW kooks have hijacked classical liberalism and have falsely embodied it in the modern GOP.

Wrong. The GOP is center-right. That's why the TEA Parties were formed, in an attempt to brig the GOP back to traditional conservative values.

How fucking dishonest can you get? Disturbingly, you can get extremely dishonest.

Because you fail to grasp the simple concept I just laid out doesn't make him dishonest. It makes you simple-minded.

Kid, when you ever get around to actually doing something to merit your level of arrogance, let us know. NOTE: "Being a liberal" or "I got an A in Poli Sci 101" isn't sufficient.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Liberalism is not a lie. In fact, it is one of the world's greatest truths and why America was founded.

However, that doesn't stop some people from distorting and twisting it.

Here is why Hayek claims that he is not a Conservative, but a Liberal.
Why I Am Not a Conservative

'The Story of Stuff' is a liberal production. It is factually and historically inaccurate. In short, it is full of lies, half truths and a couple of actual facts thrown in just to make it look legitimate.

Liberalism is not a lie.... it is a failed ideology. (Clue: take a look at Europe).

lmao...Hayek is now a lie?

You fucking dipshits keep moving the goalposts and distorting the truth and this is evident in your post, along with the OP's post.

Speaking of fucking dipshits who keep moving the goalposts, how about the fucking dipshit who started babbling about Hayek, and has now decided that any post discussing the ACTUAL TOPIC is, in fact, discussing HIS RED HERRING OF HAYEK? (Hint: the fucking dipshit in question would be you.)

IF you can show me where "The Story of Stuff" said fuck-all about Hayek, THEN perhaps you can justify your jump from "The Story of Stuff is a lie" to "Hayek is a lie." Otherwise, you're the only one talking about Hayek, which means the only fucking dipshit around here is YOU.

 

[Antiderivative]

Blah, blah, blah....Crazy Conservatives think Hayek was one of him, but he is not.

Then these crazy Cons attack me for not understanding Liberalism and Liberty, yet I have read many of Hayek's work which has shaped our politics, sometimes in a misguided manner.

Yet, these dumbfucks argue with me and do not think I have a clear and coherent of what Liberalism is.

Instead, they distort truth with so many logical fallacies and this is sad.

 

[daveman]

Blah, blah, blah....Crazy Conservatives think Hayek was one of him, but he is not.

Then these crazy Cons attack me for not understanding Liberalism and Liberty, yet I have read many of Hayek's work which has shaped our politics, sometimes in a misguided manner.

Yet, these dumbfucks argue with me and do not think I have a clear and coherent of what Liberalism is.

Instead, they distort truth with so many logical fallacies and this is sad.

Kid, someday you'll learn that "because I say so, you big dumb doodiehead!" and stamping your feet really doesn't win you any converts.

 

[Antiderivative]

Blah, blah, blah....Crazy Conservatives think Hayek was one of him, but he is not.

Then these crazy Cons attack me for not understanding Liberalism and Liberty, yet I have read many of Hayek's work which has shaped our politics, sometimes in a misguided manner.

Yet, these dumbfucks argue with me and do not think I have a clear and coherent of what Liberalism is.

Instead, they distort truth with so many logical fallacies and this is sad.

Kid, someday you'll learn that "because I say so, you big dumb doodiehead!" and stamping your feet really doesn't win you any converts.

You are emotionally crippled.

 

[Steelplate]

'The Story of Stuff' is a liberal production. It is factually and historically inaccurate. In short, it is full of lies, half truths and a couple of actual facts thrown in just to make it look legitimate.

Liberalism is not a lie.... it is a failed ideology. (Clue: take a look at Europe).

Well let's see, we've had virtually 30 years of Reaganomics with a slight respite with Clinton(who balanced the budget), and the current administration which started out $700M in the hole(that they get blamed for) and a still shaky economy that's been holding it's own, if not slightly getting better.

So we have Clinton and Obama... who is helping... and the rest... who helped themselves and their billionaire buddies.

YOU speak in half truths, YOU are full of lies Conservatives. You can call us liars all you want, but the fact remains that Progressivism has done more over the last 30 years than Reagan's tactics.

 

[Avorysuds]

Blah, blah, blah....Crazy Conservatives think Hayek was one of him, but he is not.

Then these crazy Cons attack me for not understanding Liberalism and Liberty, yet I have read many of Hayek's work which has shaped our politics, sometimes in a misguided manner.

Yet, these dumbfucks argue with me and do not think I have a clear and coherent of what Liberalism is.

Instead, they distort truth with so many logical fallacies and this is sad.

Who has done any of what you said in this thread? You're Trolling and I hate to admit it but you won as we are no longer talking about the OP.

Nice.


As to the OP, interesting stuff. That lady is retarded, if we had it her way humans would have to rid the world of ourselves as causing any "damage" makes us bad... Of course she prolly thinks Indians were a perfect collections of beings that got along with everyone and all the animals, lived on air and water never stepped on a blade of grass. Funny story is if we go back in time not to far ago people died earlier and earlier in life, to the point where she would prolly have already died,

 

[Avorysuds]

Blah, blah, blah....Crazy Conservatives think Hayek was one of him, but he is not.

Then these crazy Cons attack me for not understanding Liberalism and Liberty, yet I have read many of Hayek's work which has shaped our politics, sometimes in a misguided manner.

Yet, these dumbfucks argue with me and do not think I have a clear and coherent of what Liberalism is.

Instead, they distort truth with so many logical fallacies and this is sad.

Kid, someday you'll learn that "because I say so, you big dumb doodiehead!" and stamping your feet really doesn't win you any converts.

You are emotionally crippled.

And you base this undeniable fact on absolutely nothing...

No Family or whatever it is you do to make yourself feel better.

 

[daveman]

Blah, blah, blah....Crazy Conservatives think Hayek was one of him, but he is not.

Then these crazy Cons attack me for not understanding Liberalism and Liberty, yet I have read many of Hayek's work which has shaped our politics, sometimes in a misguided manner.

Yet, these dumbfucks argue with me and do not think I have a clear and coherent of what Liberalism is.

Instead, they distort truth with so many logical fallacies and this is sad.

Kid, someday you'll learn that "because I say so, you big dumb doodiehead!" and stamping your feet really doesn't win you any converts.

You are emotionally crippled.

You, kid, are a butthurt little sissy whining bedwetter.

 

[Avorysuds]

'The Story of Stuff' is a liberal production. It is factually and historically inaccurate. In short, it is full of lies, half truths and a couple of actual facts thrown in just to make it look legitimate.

Liberalism is not a lie.... it is a failed ideology. (Clue: take a look at Europe).

Well let's see, we've had virtually 30 years of Reaganomics with a slight respite with Clinton(who balanced the budget), and the current administration which started out $700M in the hole(that they get blamed for) and a still shaky economy that's been holding it's own, if not slightly getting better.

So we have Clinton and Obama... who is helping... and the rest... who helped themselves and their billionaire buddies.

YOU speak in half truths, YOU are full of lies Conservatives. You can call us liars all you want, but the fact remains that Progressivism has done more over the last 30 years than Reagan's tactics.

Next you will say Clinton left Bush a surplus...

 

[Antiderivative]

Kid, someday you'll learn that "because I say so, you big dumb doodiehead!" and stamping your feet really doesn't win you any converts.

You are emotionally crippled.

And you base this undeniable fact on absolutely nothing...

whatever it is you do to make yourself feel better.

I base this fact on my thesis; that people misinterpret liberalism in order to suit their own cause.

Then emotionally disturbed people throw a fucking temper tantrum when I point out this salient fact.

 

[Antiderivative]

'The Story of Stuff' is a liberal production. It is factually and historically inaccurate. In short, it is full of lies, half truths and a couple of actual facts thrown in just to make it look legitimate.

Liberalism is not a lie.... it is a failed ideology. (Clue: take a look at Europe).

Well let's see, we've had virtually 30 years of Reaganomics with a slight respite with Clinton(who balanced the budget), and the current administration which started out $700M in the hole(that they get blamed for) and a still shaky economy that's been holding it's own, if not slightly getting better.

So we have Clinton and Obama... who is helping... and the rest... who helped themselves and their billionaire buddies.

YOU speak in half truths, YOU are full of lies Conservatives. You can call us liars all you want, but the fact remains that Progressivism has done more over the last 30 years than Reagan's tactics.

Next you will say Clinton left Bush a surplus...

Both Clinton and Carter were more fiscally responsible than any Conservative in my lifetime.

However, you Contards disagree with history.