The Story of Stuff Debunked. How The Liberal World View is a Lie.

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    The Story of Stuff Debunked. How The Liberal World View is a Lie.


    Remember when this video was played in classrooms to indoctrinate our children? Well now here is the debunked version. Lee Doren of the Competitive Enterprise Institute takes on Annie Leonard (Socialist Liar) of the George Soros funded Tides Foundation http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/funderProfile.asp?fndid=5184 to show once and for all that there is no length of misinformation that liberals wont spout to gain their socialist foothold on America and the minds of our children. This is the first of four excellent videos. The rest can be found here> YouTube - ‪Story of Stuff, The Critique‬‏ . Note that Lee challenged Annie to an open debate many months ago to which she agreed. However, she refuses to set a date. No kidding huh? Enjoy!

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5uJgG05xUY&feature=relmfu]YouTube - ‪Story of Stuff, The Critique Part 1 of 4‬‏[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZzHU3ZfTtY]YouTube - ‪Story of Stuff, The Critique Part 2 of 4‬‏[/ame]
     
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    Our founding fathers are what we would call today "classical liberals." That is to draw a distinction between the liberals of today who found out that progressive and socialsit wasent exactly resignating with a country thats founding document is centered on individual (not collective) liberty. Modern liberals are liberals in name only. There is nothing new about stripping people of individual liberty so that the government can choose whats best for the "collective." So the liberals of today dont exactly meet the classical liberal definition of "new and pertaining to freedom." Thus, TO CLARIFY, The modern day liberals world ."view is an absolute lie. With the aid of this video I hope to strengthen my point. By the way. FA Hyek is what we would call today a "conservative economist." The distinction between those who call the selves liberals and our founding fathers must be made. But I think you know exactly what I mean. So If your not going to add anything in reference to the video or the topic as it is known today please stop spamming for an alternative arguement that you wish to discuss to show how smart you think you are?
     
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    You do realize that the piece you cite is 50 years old? Neither conservatism nor liberalism as described are what they are today. While there may be some "classic" liberals left, most today are Fabian Socialists and Marxists and some, down right Communist.

    Some Conservatives yes, do adhere to crazy positions on religion and life in general, but most conservatives believe, very simply put, in the spirit of man. That most men are quite capable of taking care of themselves and forging their own destinies... and thus, coping with their own failures. We don't believe in making people eat cat food and throwing autistic kids onto the streets, as our president likes to say.
     
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    I recognize this and find myself at odds with many modern day liberals, even though I occasionally agree with them.

    However, your post strengthens my thesis. People distort and twist liberalism in order to please themselves, this includes modern day conservatives and modern day liberals.
     
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    And the BoR is older than that, but I don't see you applying the same incoherent logical fallacy to that piece of liberal legislation.

    Why do I even bother with you? You are just a dumbass and misguided troll..
     
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    Sir or madam I beg you. PLEASE debate an issue. There is enough partisan name calling in America.

    My views are what you probably consider conservative on gun laws. Yet I am also pro social security.
     
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    Heres what happened. You knew exactly what the topic was refereing to but you wanted to discuss something completly irrelevent to the descussion at hand. Thinking that no one would know the true and origional meaning of the word "liberal" and how the modern day liberals have bastardised the term, you knowingly posted the above crap as to strike up a compleatly unrelated subject in order to boost up your intelectual ego when the first fish with no knowlege of history bit your hook. In other words, your spamming. Your trying to change the subject of a thread to talk about something that interests you as opposed to making one yourself. Your a hyjacker. Now go away or make a comment on the actual topic and dont give me that "I have the right to free speech and I will screw up any thread I want" crap.
     
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    Another one of your attempts to demonstrate to us all how much smarter you are than everyone else?

    Oh, btw, you have no wiggle room in calling anyone a troll bub.

    And finally, fuck you too Buckwheat!
     
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    Yeah. I came to the same concludsion in both my responses to him. He pokes around with unrelated junk to prop up his intelectual ego that is so big that he thinks no one understands what he is talking about.
     
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