The Standard Zionist Axiom

[Ventura77]

Daan Mulder, studied at Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Answered Aug 4, 2016


I don’t know where you got this (false) information from. Even at its inception in 1948 Israel accepted the UN division plan of the Holy Land into Israel and Palestine. That plan was rejected by the Arabs, who invaded Israel and tried to destroy it. Afterwards, on several other occasions, Arab countries invaded Israel in order to kill as many Jews as possible and destroy the country. Luckily, they failed every time!

In 1994 Israel signed the Oslo peace accords with the Palestinians - agreeing to cede territories in exchange for peace. That gesture was returned with a series of suicide bombing attacks by radical Islamist, killing thousands of innocent Israelis (including many children).

The majority of the people in Israel would agree to give more territories and sign a peace agreement with the Palestinians TOMORROW… *IF* the Palestinians stop the terrorist attacks against innocent (Israeli) civilians.

Israel is not perfect. But it is most definitely not the one to blame for the lack of peace.


( This individual manages to get literally everything wrong...but that is not the real point here, what should draw the attention of any modern student of propaganda is the sheer prevalence of this absurd---and easily refutable---narrative! )

 

[Hollie]

Daan Mulder, studied at Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Answered Aug 4, 2016


I don’t know where you got this (false) information from. Even at its inception in 1948 Israel accepted the UN division plan of the Holy Land into Israel and Palestine. That plan was rejected by the Arabs, who invaded Israel and tried to destroy it. Afterwards, on several other occasions, Arab countries invaded Israel in order to kill as many Jews as possible and destroy the country. Luckily, they failed every time!

In 1994 Israel signed the Oslo peace accords with the Palestinians - agreeing to cede territories in exchange for peace. That gesture was returned with a series of suicide bombing attacks by radical Islamist, killing thousands of innocent Israelis (including many children).

The majority of the people in Israel would agree to give more territories and sign a peace agreement with the Palestinians TOMORROW… *IF* the Palestinians stop the terrorist attacks against innocent (Israeli) civilians.

Israel is not perfect. But it is most definitely not the one to blame for the lack of peace.


( This individual manages to get literally everything wrong...but that is not the real point here, what should draw the attention of any modern student of propaganda is the sheer prevalence of this absurd---and easily refutable---narrative! )

I suppose you are frantically searching for a cut and paste refutation, something you can plagiarize from the web.

 

[fncceo]

I don’t know where you got this (false) information from. Even at its inception in 1948 Israel accepted the UN division plan of the Holy Land into Israel and Palestine. That plan was rejected by the Arabs, who invaded Israel and tried to destroy it. Afterwards, on several other occasions, Arab countries invaded Israel in order to kill as many Jews as possible and destroy the country. Luckily, they failed every time!

In 1994 Israel signed the Oslo peace accords with the Palestinians - agreeing to cede territories in exchange for peace. That gesture was returned with a series of suicide bombing attacks by radical Islamist, killing thousands of innocent Israelis (including many children).

The majority of the people in Israel would agree to give more territories and sign a peace agreement with the Palestinians TOMORROW… *IF* the Palestinians stop the terrorist attacks against innocent (Israeli) civilians.

Israel is not perfect. But it is most definitely not the one to blame for the lack of peace.

Every word of which is 100% factual.

 

[Boston1]

No Israel isn't perfect but the palestinians will never agree to peace under any circumstances.

 

[Ventura77]

I don’t know where you got this (false) information from. Even at its inception in 1948 Israel accepted the UN division plan of the Holy Land into Israel and Palestine. That plan was rejected by the Arabs, who invaded Israel and tried to destroy it. Afterwards, on several other occasions, Arab countries invaded Israel in order to kill as many Jews as possible and destroy the country. Luckily, they failed every time!

In 1994 Israel signed the Oslo peace accords with the Palestinians - agreeing to cede territories in exchange for peace. That gesture was returned with a series of suicide bombing attacks by radical Islamist, killing thousands of innocent Israelis (including many children).

The majority of the people in Israel would agree to give more territories and sign a peace agreement with the Palestinians TOMORROW… *IF* the Palestinians stop the terrorist attacks against innocent (Israeli) civilians.

Israel is not perfect. But it is most definitely not the one to blame for the lack of peace.

Every word of which is 100% factual.

Just the opposite low-brow...literally all of it is sophistry...once again your fundamental argument is with the public statements of people who were there! idiot

 

[Ventura77]

No Israel isn't perfect but the palestinians will never agree to peace under any circumstances.

A statement that literally begs for remedial education...

 

[Boston1]

No Israel isn't perfect but the palestinians will never agree to peace under any circumstances.

A statement that literally begs for remedial education...

When the other guy descends into personal assaults, you can just bet they don't have a valid rebuttal

 

[cnelsen]

I don’t know where you got this (false) information from. Even at its inception in 1948 Israel accepted the UN division plan of the Holy Land into Israel and Palestine. That plan was rejected by the Arabs, who invaded Israel and tried to destroy it. Afterwards, on several other occasions, Arab countries invaded Israel in order to kill as many Jews as possible and destroy the country. Luckily, they failed every time!

In 1994 Israel signed the Oslo peace accords with the Palestinians - agreeing to cede territories in exchange for peace. That gesture was returned with a series of suicide bombing attacks by radical Islamist, killing thousands of innocent Israelis (including many children).

The majority of the people in Israel would agree to give more territories and sign a peace agreement with the Palestinians TOMORROW… *IF* the Palestinians stop the terrorist attacks against innocent (Israeli) civilians.

Israel is not perfect. But it is most definitely not the one to blame for the lack of peace.

Every word of which is 100% factual.

Say Russia and the US go to war and, with the secret assistance of China and ethnic Chinese in the US, Russia wins. In return for Chinese treachery, Russia has agreed to hand over everything west of the Rockies to China. The Chinese show up in California and say, OK, this is a Chinese ethnic state, now, in which only ethnic Chinese have full political rights. We are going to seize all the most valuable and desirable land and give it to any Chinese anywhere in the world who wants it. But, to be fair, we are going to offer you non-ethnic Chinese Americans a "two-state solution". You get the area around Reno. Ah...ah...ah...shhh...no complaining now. You don't want to be against the Peace Process, now, do you?

 

[Ventura77]

No Israel isn't perfect but the palestinians will never agree to peace under any circumstances.

A statement that literally begs for remedial education...

When the other guy descends into personal assaults, you can just bet they don't have a valid rebuttal

In point of fact no "rebuttal' is required to the extent that the quote is 100% false...as for insults, they don't affect the validity of the argument any way moron...a valid argument does not lose its validity because its proponent used an equally valid insult...you are basically a pack of crude liars...your lies form a weak house of cards, remove one of them and the entire structure falls under the weight of its own fraudulence...

 

[fncceo]

I don’t know where you got this (false) information from. Even at its inception in 1948 Israel accepted the UN division plan of the Holy Land into Israel and Palestine. That plan was rejected by the Arabs, who invaded Israel and tried to destroy it. Afterwards, on several other occasions, Arab countries invaded Israel in order to kill as many Jews as possible and destroy the country. Luckily, they failed every time!

In 1994 Israel signed the Oslo peace accords with the Palestinians - agreeing to cede territories in exchange for peace. That gesture was returned with a series of suicide bombing attacks by radical Islamist, killing thousands of innocent Israelis (including many children).

The majority of the people in Israel would agree to give more territories and sign a peace agreement with the Palestinians TOMORROW… *IF* the Palestinians stop the terrorist attacks against innocent (Israeli) civilians.

Israel is not perfect. But it is most definitely not the one to blame for the lack of peace.

Every word of which is 100% factual.

Say Russia and the US go to war and, with the secret assistance of China and ethnic Chinese in the US, Russia wins. In return for Chinese treachery, Russia has agreed to hand over everything west of the Rockies to China. The Chinese show up in California and say, OK, this is a Chinese ethnic state, now, in which only ethnic Chinese have full political rights. We are going to seize all the most valuable and desirable land and give it to any Chinese anywhere in the world who wants it. But, to be fair, we are going to offer you non-ethnic Chinese Americans a "two-state solution". You get the area around Reno. Ah...ah...ah...shhh...no complaining now. You don't want to be against the Peace Process, now, do you?

 

[fncceo]

they don't affect the validity of the argument any way moron

Use a comma, moron.

 

[Ventura77]

I don’t know where you got this (false) information from. Even at its inception in 1948 Israel accepted the UN division plan of the Holy Land into Israel and Palestine. That plan was rejected by the Arabs, who invaded Israel and tried to destroy it. Afterwards, on several other occasions, Arab countries invaded Israel in order to kill as many Jews as possible and destroy the country. Luckily, they failed every time!

In 1994 Israel signed the Oslo peace accords with the Palestinians - agreeing to cede territories in exchange for peace. That gesture was returned with a series of suicide bombing attacks by radical Islamist, killing thousands of innocent Israelis (including many children).

The majority of the people in Israel would agree to give more territories and sign a peace agreement with the Palestinians TOMORROW… *IF* the Palestinians stop the terrorist attacks against innocent (Israeli) civilians.

Israel is not perfect. But it is most definitely not the one to blame for the lack of peace.

Every word of which is 100% factual.

Say Russia and the US go to war and, with the secret assistance of China and ethnic Chinese in the US, Russia wins. In return for Chinese treachery, Russia has agreed to hand over everything west of the Rockies to China. The Chinese show up in California and say, OK, this is a Chinese ethnic state, now, in which only ethnic Chinese have full political rights. We are going to seize all the most valuable and desirable land and give it to any Chinese anywhere in the world who wants it. But, to be fair, we are going to offer you non-ethnic Chinese Americans a "two-state solution". You get the area around Reno. Ah...ah...ah...shhh...no complaining now. You don't want to be against the Peace Process, now, do you?

There is no 'peace process'...do you not grasp this salient fact!!! Your analogy is idiotic...

 

[Boston1]

No Israel isn't perfect but the palestinians will never agree to peace under any circumstances.

A statement that literally begs for remedial education...

When the other guy descends into personal assaults, you can just bet they don't have a valid rebuttal

In point of fact no "rebuttal' is required to the extent that the quote is 100% false...as for insults, they don't affect the validity of the argument any way moron...a valid argument does not lose its validity because its proponent used an equally valid insult...you are basically a pack of crude liars...your lies form a weak house of cards, remove one of them and the entire structure falls under the weight of its own fraudulence...

Again with the personal assaults, but this time with the caveat that no rebuttal is required. LOL.

Yeah, you did great on the debating team.

Of course I avoided the spelling team so hey. We all have our thing

 

[Ventura77]

they don't affect the validity of the argument any way moron

Use a comma, moron.

Use a brain you fertile imbecile

 

[Ventura77]

No Israel isn't perfect but the palestinians will never agree to peace under any circumstances.

A statement that literally begs for remedial education...

When the other guy descends into personal assaults, you can just bet they don't have a valid rebuttal

In point of fact no "rebuttal' is required to the extent that the quote is 100% false...as for insults, they don't affect the validity of the argument any way moron...a valid argument does not lose its validity because its proponent used an equally valid insult...you are basically a pack of crude liars...your lies form a weak house of cards, remove one of them and the entire structure falls under the weight of its own fraudulence...

Again with the personal assaults, but this time with the caveat that no rebuttal is required. LOL.

Yeah, you did great on the debating team.

Of course I avoided the spelling team so hey. We all have our thing

Yet again for the sake of the F-student, to the extent that the quote lies in stark contradiction to the post-state public statements of Zionist leaders no 'rebuttal' is required...does this register yet or shall I employ a set of IQ-appropriate flash cards?

 

[fncceo]

Use a brain you fertile imbecile

Again, comma.

 

[fncceo]

No Israel isn't perfect but the palestinians will never agree to peace under any circumstances.

I disagree. It will take time, but eventually (and it may take decades), the Palestinian people will realize their leaders are holding them hostage to this conflict and overthrow them.
Blaming Jews for every wrong in your country has worked before (many times). But, it never works forever.

 

[MJB12741]

Hey Ventura, did you hear the one about "Israel is stealing (or occupying) 'Palestinian' land"? Need you to chime in little buddy. 'Atta boy!

 

[ForeverYoung436]

they don't affect the validity of the argument any way moron

Use a comma, moron.

Use a brain you fertile imbecile

Name-calling only makes you sound like a spoiled brat, Louie. If you want to gain some credibility in these debates, I'd cut it out. At least Tinmore and abi are gentlemen.

 

[Ventura77]

No Israel isn't perfect but the palestinians will never agree to peace under any circumstances.

I disagree. It will take time, but eventually (and it may take decades), the Palestinian people will realize their leaders are holding them hostage to this conflict and overthrow them.
Blaming Jews for every wrong in your country has worked before (many times). But, it never works forever.

Oh that's it!!!!!! Thanks so much for clearing up the issue for me...silly me I didn't realize that 'Palestinian leaders" were to blame...like a fool I was led to believe that the Jews imposed a brutal military occupation...who knew?