The Spanish Inquisition: Debunking the Legends

[irosie91]

I didn't check out the link. My studies indicated to me that the impetus to the Inquisition was trying to root out Muslims left behind after the Spanish managed to oust them from Iberia. They had suffered through Muslim intolerance and were, in effect, returning the favor. The clearly avowed goal was to ensure that the people of Spain were all Christian.

The Inquisition also reached the New World in an effort to determine of those claiming to be Christians were just that.

the program of the catholic church COMMONLY called THE INQUISITION----referred to getting rid of anything not Christian via genocide---
why not call a spade a spade? Besides its genocide on muslims----who were hardly hit since they had places to which to flee-----it knocked off whole communities of jews and its principles were used to justify mass extermination of persons native to the Americas----Hernan Cortez was an ardent Catholic as was his girl friend Queen Isabella ..... Montezuma's gold helped Cortez to act in FERVENT RELIGIOUS ZEAL -----which is why Mexicans are catholics
today-------Your "revenge against muslim oppressors" justification is really obnoxious. Persons interested in history should visit the Spanish and Portugese synagogue in Manhattan, NY, founded in 1654. That synagogue was founded by escapees -----the murdering of non Christians was
still in FULL SWING even in 1654 and continued here and
there well into the seventeenth and even eighteenth centuries---here and there------the actual beginning of INQUISITION style murder for non Christians started with CONSTANTINE_---circa 300 AD. The THIRD REICH was a reprise. Sweet little Canadian nuns kidnapped native children
until----very recently. HOWEVER---strictly speaking---the term "INQUISITION" refers only to prosecution of GOOD CATHOLICS for heresy-------not-good-catholics------do not
count. Galileo--won his case------the fact that his daughter was a nun----helped

 

[Picaro]

Ah, the usual idiots respond. No surprise. lol

 

[irosie91]

The Spanish Inquisition: Debunking the Legends

A quick summary:

Quick Summary

Modern historical research has uncovered facts that dismantle many of these centuries-old falsehoods. Here are some quick corrections concerning popular misunderstandings:

• 
  
  
  • The Inquisition was originally welcomed to bring order to Europe because states saw an attack on the state’s faith as an attack on the state as well.
  • The Inquisition technically had jurisdiction only over those professing to be Christians.
  • The courts of the Inquisition were extremely fair compared to their secular counterparts at the time.
  • The Inquisition was responsible for less than 100 witch-hunt deaths, and was the first judicial body to denounce the trials in Europe.
  • Though torture was commonly used in all the courts of Europe at the time, the Inquisition used torture very infrequently.
  • During the 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition, between 3,000-5,000 people were sentenced to death (about 1 per month).
  • The Church executed no one.

Links of note in this paragraph on the page:

In recent years, however, the Vatican opened up its secret archives for historical investigation. Inquisition records that were made by and for the Inquisition were allowed to be researched for the first time in history. Since then, the above facts have been generally discoverable in modern history books (whether Catholic or not). Corrected Inquisition history can be found in sources such as Inquisition by Edward Peters and The Spanish Inquisition: An Historical Revision by Henry Kamen. Comparative secular documentaries include The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition (BBC) and the more sensationalistic The Spanish Inquisition (History Channel).

Even some 'Pagan' followers are in agreement with most of this, and admit witch burning is/was a pagan practice. Paganism was still a major force in medieval Europe, among the peasants and lower aristocracy

.Common Misconceptions: Chronology

Current scholarly estimates of the death toll in The Summerlands

Hear The Voice Paganism Australia: The Myth of the "BURNING TIMES"

Remember that the Witches that people hated and feared during the "Burning Times" are not Witches as we think of them today. Nor were they Pagans. People feared witchcraft because it was thought that those who practiced it could cause death and disease of people livestock and crops. For people who didn't have the scientific background we have today it was easy to blame witchraft for the unexplained. Think of the Black Death that killed nearly 1/3 of the population of Europe. If you didn't understand the idea of germs and disease transmission a frightened person would easily ascribe it to witchcraft. And if no way to stop the disease were known other than killing the witch before s/he killed you and your village think how easy it would be to do what you had to do in your fear to survive.

Wasn't it during the Inquisition that Spain forced the Jews to convert or die, causing a major diaspora? That had nothing to do with the Church?

No. Read the pages linked to before commenting. that's why the links are there, after all ....

And, most of the Jews were allied with the Muslim invaders, and weren't distinguishable from them as part of the invasions.

your statement is entirely incorrect but much used by Nazi scum. and the shitty descendants of the disgusting dog
CONSTANTINE---who was really the originator of the filth
which drove the inquisition and the deaths of 100s of millions
THRUOUT THE WORLD-----but nice try

 

[Picaro]

I didn't check out the link. My studies indicated to me that the impetus to the Inquisition was trying to root out Muslims left behind after the Spanish managed to oust them from Iberia. They had suffered through Muslim intolerance and were, in effect, returning the favor. The clearly avowed goal was to ensure that the people of Spain were all Christian.

The Inquisition also reached the New World in an effort to determine of those claiming to be Christians were just that.

Well, there were three Inquisitions; two were feudal kingdoms conducting them, the third was the Roman Inquisition. Once one learns that, it becomes a little clearer who did what. And yes, Islam and its supporters were an ongoing existential threat for centuries, and it was certainly a concern for the Spanish and Portuguese crowns not to have cadres of fifth columnists running around loose in their lands. The Roman Inquisition was far milder than those two.

There is no need to 'apologize' for self-defense, especially against Islamist imperialism. The actual history of even the worst, the Spanish, is mild compared to what Muslims and Jews conducted against Christians for centuries, but of course anything that shows the propaganda to be false is bound to meet with hostility.

 

[irosie91]

Ah, the usual idiots respond. No surprise. lol

you are quite a joke-----you presented a few bits of utterly idiotic
propaganda----in support of one of the most massive and barbaric programs of genocide the world has ever seen------and RESENT response.

 

[Picaro]

The Spanish Inquisition: Debunking the Legends

A quick summary:

Quick Summary

Modern historical research has uncovered facts that dismantle many of these centuries-old falsehoods. Here are some quick corrections concerning popular misunderstandings:

• 
  
  
  • The Inquisition was originally welcomed to bring order to Europe because states saw an attack on the state’s faith as an attack on the state as well.
  • The Inquisition technically had jurisdiction only over those professing to be Christians.
  • The courts of the Inquisition were extremely fair compared to their secular counterparts at the time.
  • The Inquisition was responsible for less than 100 witch-hunt deaths, and was the first judicial body to denounce the trials in Europe.
  • Though torture was commonly used in all the courts of Europe at the time, the Inquisition used torture very infrequently.
  • During the 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition, between 3,000-5,000 people were sentenced to death (about 1 per month).
  • The Church executed no one.

Links of note in this paragraph on the page:

In recent years, however, the Vatican opened up its secret archives for historical investigation. Inquisition records that were made by and for the Inquisition were allowed to be researched for the first time in history. Since then, the above facts have been generally discoverable in modern history books (whether Catholic or not). Corrected Inquisition history can be found in sources such as Inquisition by Edward Peters and The Spanish Inquisition: An Historical Revision by Henry Kamen. Comparative secular documentaries include The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition (BBC) and the more sensationalistic The Spanish Inquisition (History Channel).

Even some 'Pagan' followers are in agreement with most of this, and admit witch burning is/was a pagan practice. Paganism was still a major force in medieval Europe, among the peasants and lower aristocracy

.Common Misconceptions: Chronology

Current scholarly estimates of the death toll in The Summerlands

Hear The Voice Paganism Australia: The Myth of the "BURNING TIMES"

Remember that the Witches that people hated and feared during the "Burning Times" are not Witches as we think of them today. Nor were they Pagans. People feared witchcraft because it was thought that those who practiced it could cause death and disease of people livestock and crops. For people who didn't have the scientific background we have today it was easy to blame witchraft for the unexplained. Think of the Black Death that killed nearly 1/3 of the population of Europe. If you didn't understand the idea of germs and disease transmission a frightened person would easily ascribe it to witchcraft. And if no way to stop the disease were known other than killing the witch before s/he killed you and your village think how easy it would be to do what you had to do in your fear to survive.

Wasn't it during the Inquisition that Spain forced the Jews to convert or die, causing a major diaspora? That had nothing to do with the Church?

No. Read the pages linked to before commenting. that's why the links are there, after all ....

And, most of the Jews were allied with the Muslim invaders, and weren't distinguishable from them as part of the invasions.

your statement is entirely incorrect but much used by Nazi scum. and the shitty descendants of the disgusting dog
CONSTANTINE---who was really the originator of the filth
which drove the inquisition and the deaths of 100s of millions
THRUOUT THE WORLD-----but nice try

lol the only scum here is you and your insipid trolling. Change your diapers and give Guno a lap dance or something. This is the History forum, and you know little or nothing about it. It doesn't have to fit your sniveling fantasies and pet hatreds, it just has to be accurate and correct according to what is actually known..

 

[irosie91]

I didn't check out the link. My studies indicated to me that the impetus to the Inquisition was trying to root out Muslims left behind after the Spanish managed to oust them from Iberia. They had suffered through Muslim intolerance and were, in effect, returning the favor. The clearly avowed goal was to ensure that the people of Spain were all Christian.

The Inquisition also reached the New World in an effort to determine of those claiming to be Christians were just that.

Well, there were three Inquisitions; two were feudal kingdoms conducting them, the third was the Roman Inquisition. Once one learns that, it becomes a little clearer who did what. And yes, Islam and its supporters were an ongoing existential threat for centuries, and it was certainly a concern for the Spanish and Portuguese crowns not to have cadres of fifth columnists running around loose in their lands. There is no need to 'apologize' for self-defense, especially against Islamist imperialism. The actual history of even the worst, the Spanish, is mild compared to what Muslims and Jews conducted against Christians for centuries, but of course anything that shows the propaganda to be false is bound to meet with hostility.

the originator of the principles of the INQUISITION was Constantine-----the filthy pig emperor of the FIRST REICH-----and you somehow blame the muslims who did not even exist
when that dog invented his dirt?. No question---once the "cat was out of the bag"-----and the muslims INGESTED that shit----they vomited it forth in ENHANCED FORM------but jews were not the perpertrators-----jews were RUNNING FROM IT---not joining it. Jews ran to wherever the stink and filth that the EMPEROR OF THE FIRST HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE started was most mildly expressed-----and that is all. You guys get funnier and funnier every time you try to justify the STINK of your REICHS----first, second and third. Be proud----you invented the filth of SHARIAH

 

[irosie91]

The Spanish Inquisition: Debunking the Legends

A quick summary:

Quick Summary

Modern historical research has uncovered facts that dismantle many of these centuries-old falsehoods. Here are some quick corrections concerning popular misunderstandings:

• 
  
  
  • The Inquisition was originally welcomed to bring order to Europe because states saw an attack on the state’s faith as an attack on the state as well.
  • The Inquisition technically had jurisdiction only over those professing to be Christians.
  • The courts of the Inquisition were extremely fair compared to their secular counterparts at the time.
  • The Inquisition was responsible for less than 100 witch-hunt deaths, and was the first judicial body to denounce the trials in Europe.
  • Though torture was commonly used in all the courts of Europe at the time, the Inquisition used torture very infrequently.
  • During the 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition, between 3,000-5,000 people were sentenced to death (about 1 per month).
  • The Church executed no one.

Links of note in this paragraph on the page:

In recent years, however, the Vatican opened up its secret archives for historical investigation. Inquisition records that were made by and for the Inquisition were allowed to be researched for the first time in history. Since then, the above facts have been generally discoverable in modern history books (whether Catholic or not). Corrected Inquisition history can be found in sources such as Inquisition by Edward Peters and The Spanish Inquisition: An Historical Revision by Henry Kamen. Comparative secular documentaries include The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition (BBC) and the more sensationalistic The Spanish Inquisition (History Channel).

Even some 'Pagan' followers are in agreement with most of this, and admit witch burning is/was a pagan practice. Paganism was still a major force in medieval Europe, among the peasants and lower aristocracy

.Common Misconceptions: Chronology

Current scholarly estimates of the death toll in The Summerlands

Hear The Voice Paganism Australia: The Myth of the "BURNING TIMES"

Remember that the Witches that people hated and feared during the "Burning Times" are not Witches as we think of them today. Nor were they Pagans. People feared witchcraft because it was thought that those who practiced it could cause death and disease of people livestock and crops. For people who didn't have the scientific background we have today it was easy to blame witchraft for the unexplained. Think of the Black Death that killed nearly 1/3 of the population of Europe. If you didn't understand the idea of germs and disease transmission a frightened person would easily ascribe it to witchcraft. And if no way to stop the disease were known other than killing the witch before s/he killed you and your village think how easy it would be to do what you had to do in your fear to survive.

Wasn't it during the Inquisition that Spain forced the Jews to convert or die, causing a major diaspora? That had nothing to do with the Church?

No. Read the pages linked to before commenting. that's why the links are there, after all ....

And, most of the Jews were allied with the Muslim invaders, and weren't distinguishable from them as part of the invasions.

your statement is entirely incorrect but much used by Nazi scum. and the shitty descendants of the disgusting dog
CONSTANTINE---who was really the originator of the filth
which drove the inquisition and the deaths of 100s of millions
THRUOUT THE WORLD-----but nice try

lol the only scum here is you and your insipid trolling. Change your diapers and give Guno a lap dance or something. This is the History forum, and you know little or nothing about it. It doesn't have to fit your sniveling fantasies and pet hatreds, it just has to be accurate and correct according to what is actually known..

right-----what is known as FACT-------not the filth that was invented by some nun with a priest's cock in her mouth. You have a history of forced conversion to Judaism somewhere-----of COURSE YOU DO---------and your kith and kin announced some 650 years ago that DA JOOOOOS INVENTED YERSINNIA PESTIS. Your history lesson is very much disputed by --------the fact that lots of people knew how to read and write back then. Tell me about the FAIR TRIALS------
I have a brother-in-law by marriage who had never lived in a Spanish speaking country----but is fluent in Spanish---as were his parents, grandparents........ -------they carry a family legacy of your stink

 

[irosie91]

Ah, the usual idiots respond. No surprise. lol

you are incapable of discussion ANY of the HISTORICAL FACTS that I presented-------and continue to play with the
"oh ---that little inquisition thing----nothing much----a few catholic heretics got politely questioned on issues of dogma"

 

[irosie91]

I didn't check out the link. My studies indicated to me that the impetus to the Inquisition was trying to root out Muslims left behind after the Spanish managed to oust them from Iberia. They had suffered through Muslim intolerance and were, in effect, returning the favor. The clearly avowed goal was to ensure that the people of Spain were all Christian.

The Inquisition also reached the New World in an effort to determine of those claiming to be Christians were just that.

They kept the Muslim architecture intact though..........

muslim "architecture" is a tent in the desert ------surrounded by camel feces. When muslims went on rampage---they carried the architecture of the BYZANT with them----actually a mixture of roman and Egyptian.

 

[Picaro]

I didn't check out the link. My studies indicated to me that the impetus to the Inquisition was trying to root out Muslims left behind after the Spanish managed to oust them from Iberia. They had suffered through Muslim intolerance and were, in effect, returning the favor. The clearly avowed goal was to ensure that the people of Spain were all Christian.

The Inquisition also reached the New World in an effort to determine of those claiming to be Christians were just that.

Well, there were three Inquisitions; two were feudal kingdoms conducting them, the third was the Roman Inquisition. Once one learns that, it becomes a little clearer who did what. And yes, Islam and its supporters were an ongoing existential threat for centuries, and it was certainly a concern for the Spanish and Portuguese crowns not to have cadres of fifth columnists running around loose in their lands. There is no need to 'apologize' for self-defense, especially against Islamist imperialism. The actual history of even the worst, the Spanish, is mild compared to what Muslims and Jews conducted against Christians for centuries, but of course anything that shows the propaganda to be false is bound to meet with hostility.

the originator of the principles of the INQUISITION was Constantine-----the filthy pig emperor of the FIRST REICH-----and you somehow blame the muslims who did not even exist
when that dog invented his dirt?. No question---once the "cat was out of the bag"-----and the muslims INGESTED that shit----they vomited it forth in ENHANCED FORM------but jews were not the perpertrators-----jews were RUNNING FROM IT---not joining it. Jews ran to wherever the stink and filth that the EMPEROR OF THE FIRST HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE started was most mildly expressed-----and that is all. You guys get funnier and funnier every time you try to justify the STINK of your REICHS----first, second and third. Be proud----you invented the filth of SHARIAH

Idiot. And Muslims were aping Judaism, not Christianity. They cited the Old Testament and Moses more than any other.

Stop lying; you only look even more emotionally retarded than normal when posting this gibberish.

 

[whitehall]

"It turns out"? It's not history based on fact of empirical evidence. It's a freaking editorial by some philosophy professor.

 

[irosie91]

I didn't check out the link. My studies indicated to me that the impetus to the Inquisition was trying to root out Muslims left behind after the Spanish managed to oust them from Iberia. They had suffered through Muslim intolerance and were, in effect, returning the favor. The clearly avowed goal was to ensure that the people of Spain were all Christian.

The Inquisition also reached the New World in an effort to determine of those claiming to be Christians were just that.

Well, there were three Inquisitions; two were feudal kingdoms conducting them, the third was the Roman Inquisition. Once one learns that, it becomes a little clearer who did what. And yes, Islam and its supporters were an ongoing existential threat for centuries, and it was certainly a concern for the Spanish and Portuguese crowns not to have cadres of fifth columnists running around loose in their lands. There is no need to 'apologize' for self-defense, especially against Islamist imperialism. The actual history of even the worst, the Spanish, is mild compared to what Muslims and Jews conducted against Christians for centuries, but of course anything that shows the propaganda to be false is bound to meet with hostility.

the originator of the principles of the INQUISITION was Constantine-----the filthy pig emperor of the FIRST REICH-----and you somehow blame the muslims who did not even exist
when that dog invented his dirt?. No question---once the "cat was out of the bag"-----and the muslims INGESTED that shit----they vomited it forth in ENHANCED FORM------but jews were not the perpertrators-----jews were RUNNING FROM IT---not joining it. Jews ran to wherever the stink and filth that the EMPEROR OF THE FIRST HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE started was most mildly expressed-----and that is all. You guys get funnier and funnier every time you try to justify the STINK of your REICHS----first, second and third. Be proud----you invented the filth of SHARIAH

Idiot. And Muslims were aping Judaism, not Christianity. They cited the Old Testament and Moses more than any other.

Stop lying; you only look even more emotionally retarded than normal when posting this gibberish.

try again----check out CANON LAW----with reference to non Christians-----as determined by JUSTINIAN (grandson of Constantine-----who CODIFIED the filth of Constantine into LAW-----the LAW OF THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE. I will help you------they are just about the same laws that your uncle ADOLF used to elaborate his Nuremburg laws-----all the way down to the YELLOW INSIGNIA FOR JEWS. More help-----in shariah law----jews are required to wear IDENTIFYING marks on their clothes in YELLOW. The shariah shit which is applied to "dhimmis" (non muslims) was invented by CONSTANTINE-------it is still part and parcel of shariah-----my own hubby was born in a classic shariah shit hole-----under the laws invented by the dog CONSTANTINE.
(for the record----in shariah law----Christians also get marked----with blue insignia----hindus get orange and Zoroastrians get red--------history is SO FASCINATING-----you don't learn this stuff in sunday school-------I never attended any religious training other than a few sundays in LUTHERAN SUNDAY SCHOOL---coloring cartoons of jesus holding a lamb when I was about age 8) Did I mention that the laws of the THIRD REICH (third holy roman empire) ---continued to mark jews with yellow insignia-----your uncle did not INVENT that idea

 

[Picaro]

"It turns out"? It's not history based on fact of empirical evidence. It's a freaking editorial by some philosophy professor.

It turns out he's discussing books that researched the issues, but don't let that get in the way of avoiding comprehension on your part.

 

[Picaro]

I didn't check out the link. My studies indicated to me that the impetus to the Inquisition was trying to root out Muslims left behind after the Spanish managed to oust them from Iberia. They had suffered through Muslim intolerance and were, in effect, returning the favor. The clearly avowed goal was to ensure that the people of Spain were all Christian.

The Inquisition also reached the New World in an effort to determine of those claiming to be Christians were just that.

Well, there were three Inquisitions; two were feudal kingdoms conducting them, the third was the Roman Inquisition. Once one learns that, it becomes a little clearer who did what. And yes, Islam and its supporters were an ongoing existential threat for centuries, and it was certainly a concern for the Spanish and Portuguese crowns not to have cadres of fifth columnists running around loose in their lands. There is no need to 'apologize' for self-defense, especially against Islamist imperialism. The actual history of even the worst, the Spanish, is mild compared to what Muslims and Jews conducted against Christians for centuries, but of course anything that shows the propaganda to be false is bound to meet with hostility.

the originator of the principles of the INQUISITION was Constantine-----the filthy pig emperor of the FIRST REICH-----and you somehow blame the muslims who did not even exist
when that dog invented his dirt?. No question---once the "cat was out of the bag"-----and the muslims INGESTED that shit----they vomited it forth in ENHANCED FORM------but jews were not the perpertrators-----jews were RUNNING FROM IT---not joining it. Jews ran to wherever the stink and filth that the EMPEROR OF THE FIRST HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE started was most mildly expressed-----and that is all. You guys get funnier and funnier every time you try to justify the STINK of your REICHS----first, second and third. Be proud----you invented the filth of SHARIAH

Idiot. And Muslims were aping Judaism, not Christianity. They cited the Old Testament and Moses more than any other.

Stop lying; you only look even more emotionally retarded than normal when posting this gibberish.

try again----check out CANON LAW----with reference to non Christians-----as determined by JUSTINIAN (grandson of Constantine-----who CODIFIED the filth of Constantine into LAW-----the LAW OF THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE. I will help you------they are just about the same laws that your uncle ADOLF used to elaborate his Nuremburg laws-----all the way down to the YELLOW INSIGNIA FOR JEWS. More help-----in shariah law----jews are required to wear IDENTIFYING marks on their clothes in YELLOW. The shariah shit which is applied to "dhimmis" (non muslims) was invented by CONSTANTINE-------it is still part and parcel of shariah-----my own hubby was born in a classic shariah shit hole-----under the laws invented by the dog CONSTANTINE.
(for the record----in shariah law----Christians also get marked----with blue insignia----hindus get orange and Zoroastrians get red--------history is SO FASCINATING-----you don't learn this stuff in sunday school-------I never attended any religious training other than a few sundays in LUTHERAN SUNDAY SCHOOL---coloring cartoons of jesus holding a lamb when I was about age 8) Did I mention that the laws of the THIRD REICH (third holy roman empire) ---continued to mark jews with yellow insignia-----your uncle did not INVENT that idea

More inane gibberish; you really think spamming with more gibberish is making you look like less of a nutjob?

What you're really angry about is Constantine shutting down massacres of Christians. Tough, your people failed at that. Get over it.

 

[irosie91]

I didn't check out the link. My studies indicated to me that the impetus to the Inquisition was trying to root out Muslims left behind after the Spanish managed to oust them from Iberia. They had suffered through Muslim intolerance and were, in effect, returning the favor. The clearly avowed goal was to ensure that the people of Spain were all Christian.

The Inquisition also reached the New World in an effort to determine of those claiming to be Christians were just that.

Well, there were three Inquisitions; two were feudal kingdoms conducting them, the third was the Roman Inquisition. Once one learns that, it becomes a little clearer who did what. And yes, Islam and its supporters were an ongoing existential threat for centuries, and it was certainly a concern for the Spanish and Portuguese crowns not to have cadres of fifth columnists running around loose in their lands. There is no need to 'apologize' for self-defense, especially against Islamist imperialism. The actual history of even the worst, the Spanish, is mild compared to what Muslims and Jews conducted against Christians for centuries, but of course anything that shows the propaganda to be false is bound to meet with hostility.

the originator of the principles of the INQUISITION was Constantine-----the filthy pig emperor of the FIRST REICH-----and you somehow blame the muslims who did not even exist
when that dog invented his dirt?. No question---once the "cat was out of the bag"-----and the muslims INGESTED that shit----they vomited it forth in ENHANCED FORM------but jews were not the perpertrators-----jews were RUNNING FROM IT---not joining it. Jews ran to wherever the stink and filth that the EMPEROR OF THE FIRST HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE started was most mildly expressed-----and that is all. You guys get funnier and funnier every time you try to justify the STINK of your REICHS----first, second and third. Be proud----you invented the filth of SHARIAH

Idiot. And Muslims were aping Judaism, not Christianity. They cited the Old Testament and Moses more than any other.

Stop lying; you only look even more emotionally retarded than normal when posting this gibberish.

try again----check out CANON LAW----with reference to non Christians-----as determined by JUSTINIAN (grandson of Constantine-----who CODIFIED the filth of Constantine into LAW-----the LAW OF THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE. I will help you------they are just about the same laws that your uncle ADOLF used to elaborate his Nuremburg laws-----all the way down to the YELLOW INSIGNIA FOR JEWS. More help-----in shariah law----jews are required to wear IDENTIFYING marks on their clothes in YELLOW. The shariah shit which is applied to "dhimmis" (non muslims) was invented by CONSTANTINE-------it is still part and parcel of shariah-----my own hubby was born in a classic shariah shit hole-----under the laws invented by the dog CONSTANTINE.
(for the record----in shariah law----Christians also get marked----with blue insignia----hindus get orange and Zoroastrians get red--------history is SO FASCINATING-----you don't learn this stuff in sunday school-------I never attended any religious training other than a few sundays in LUTHERAN SUNDAY SCHOOL---coloring cartoons of jesus holding a lamb when I was about age 8) Did I mention that the laws of the THIRD REICH (third holy roman empire) ---continued to mark jews with yellow insignia-----your uncle did not INVENT that idea

More inane gibberish; you really think spamming with more gibberish is making you look like less of a nutjob?

What you're really angry about is Constantine shutting down massacres of Christians. Tough, your people failed at that. Get over it.

your answer does not make any sense at all------Constantine decided that the best way to conquest of the world was via ----
CHRISTIANITY UBER ALLES. Thus he declared that
------ONLY CHRISTIANS (at that time the catholic church) RULES and all others must be murderered. He enacted laws that disenranchised ALL OTHERS ------ Of course his declaration of CHRISTIAN UBER ALLES ended the killing of Christians------it opened the murder of non Christians in the HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS-------you want an award for that filth?

 

[irosie91]

"It turns out"? It's not history based on fact of empirical evidence. It's a freaking editorial by some philosophy professor.

It turns out he's discussing books that researched the issues, but don't let that get in the way of avoiding comprehension on your part.

I don't anyone can write a book

 

[irosie91]

"It turns out"? It's not history based on fact of empirical evidence. It's a freaking editorial by some philosophy professor.

It turns out he's discussing books that researched the issues, but don't let that get in the way of avoiding comprehension on your part.

I do not believe that ANYONE is disputing the FACT that the laws of the HOLY ROMAN empire involved the torture and execution of any person who failed to lick the shit off of the ass of the person you imagine to be "jesus Christ" What is your point?

 

[irosie91]

I didn't check out the link. My studies indicated to me that the impetus to the Inquisition was trying to root out Muslims left behind after the Spanish managed to oust them from Iberia. They had suffered through Muslim intolerance and were, in effect, returning the favor. The clearly avowed goal was to ensure that the people of Spain were all Christian.

The Inquisition also reached the New World in an effort to determine of those claiming to be Christians were just that.

Well, there were three Inquisitions; two were feudal kingdoms conducting them, the third was the Roman Inquisition. Once one learns that, it becomes a little clearer who did what. And yes, Islam and its supporters were an ongoing existential threat for centuries, and it was certainly a concern for the Spanish and Portuguese crowns not to have cadres of fifth columnists running around loose in their lands. There is no need to 'apologize' for self-defense, especially against Islamist imperialism. The actual history of even the worst, the Spanish, is mild compared to what Muslims and Jews conducted against Christians for centuries, but of course anything that shows the propaganda to be false is bound to meet with hostility.

the originator of the principles of the INQUISITION was Constantine-----the filthy pig emperor of the FIRST REICH-----and you somehow blame the muslims who did not even exist
when that dog invented his dirt?. No question---once the "cat was out of the bag"-----and the muslims INGESTED that shit----they vomited it forth in ENHANCED FORM------but jews were not the perpertrators-----jews were RUNNING FROM IT---not joining it. Jews ran to wherever the stink and filth that the EMPEROR OF THE FIRST HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE started was most mildly expressed-----and that is all. You guys get funnier and funnier every time you try to justify the STINK of your REICHS----first, second and third. Be proud----you invented the filth of SHARIAH

Idiot. And Muslims were aping Judaism, not Christianity. They cited the Old Testament and Moses more than any other.

Stop lying; you only look even more emotionally retarded than normal when posting this gibberish.

try again----check out CANON LAW----with reference to non Christians-----as determined by JUSTINIAN (grandson of Constantine-----who CODIFIED the filth of Constantine into LAW-----the LAW OF THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE. I will help you------they are just about the same laws that your uncle ADOLF used to elaborate his Nuremburg laws-----all the way down to the YELLOW INSIGNIA FOR JEWS. More help-----in shariah law----jews are required to wear IDENTIFYING marks on their clothes in YELLOW. The shariah shit which is applied to "dhimmis" (non muslims) was invented by CONSTANTINE-------it is still part and parcel of shariah-----my own hubby was born in a classic shariah shit hole-----under the laws invented by the dog CONSTANTINE.
(for the record----in shariah law----Christians also get marked----with blue insignia----hindus get orange and Zoroastrians get red--------history is SO FASCINATING-----you don't learn this stuff in sunday school-------I never attended any religious training other than a few sundays in LUTHERAN SUNDAY SCHOOL---coloring cartoons of jesus holding a lamb when I was about age 8) Did I mention that the laws of the THIRD REICH (third holy roman empire) ---continued to mark jews with yellow insignia-----your uncle did not INVENT that idea

More inane gibberish; you really think spamming with more gibberish is making you look like less of a nutjob?

What you're really angry about is Constantine shutting down massacres of Christians. Tough, your people failed at that. Get over it.

My people never attempted to massacre Christians------YOUR filth massacred in the hundreds of millions----you are shit----always were and will always be

 

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Ah, the usual idiots respond. No surprise. lol

Well to be fair- the usual idiot started the thread.