The Sound of Settled Science

[Weatherman2020]

I’m so old I remember when science findings were not published until peer reviewed.

31 unverified, unable to reproduce studies PUBLISHED. Forehead slapping time.

“A prominent cardiologist formerly at Harvard Medical School and Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston fabricated or falsified data in 31 published studies that should be retracted, officials at the institutions have concluded.

The cardiologist, Dr. Piero Anversa, produced research suggesting that damaged heart muscle could be regenerated with stem cells, a type of cell that can transform itself into a variety of other cells.

Although other laboratories could not reproduce his findings, the work led to the formation of start-up companies to develop new treatments for heart attacks and stroke, and inspired a clinical trial funded by the National Institutes of Health.

Harvard Calls for Retraction of Dozens of Studies by Noted Cardiologist

 

[Aurora Woman]

^ This partially explains why so many ppl don't trust scientists, physicians, and other formerly-respected professionals. Sad.

 

[Old Rocks]

And who exposed the fraud? Other scientists. Science is self correcting. Unlike the dumb fucks on this board that are constantly trying to denigrate all scientists by the actions of a few that were exposed as frauds by other scientists. And, quite obviously, you title is meant to cast doubt on all scientific research, especially those studying the climate. However, those that actually read science, recognize your intent, and reject your hypothesis that no science is to be trusted.

 

[Aurora Woman]

And who exposed the fraud? Other scientists. Science is self correcting. Unlike the dumb fucks on this board that are constantly trying to denigrate all scientists by the actions of a few that were exposed as frauds by other scientists. And, quite obviously, you title is meant to cast doubt on all scientific research, especially those studying the climate. However, those that actually read science, recognize your intent, and reject your hypothesis that no science is to be trusted.

Too bad this forum doesn't have a function that lets the reader rush to the author, envelop him/her with hugs and thanks, and band together in righteousness against the Forces of Darkness, Evil, and TrumpyShitz. Because I would so do that with you about now. My dad was a research scientist. You have no idea how many dinner table rants I listened to growing up, about pseudo science, the media's reporting on science, and critical thinking. Damn that man, he turned me into a skeptical liberal.

 

[Old Rocks]

Well, I will consider myself hugged. You are a lucky person. Having someone close to you that worked in science is a real step up in life. I was the first in my paternal line to finish high school. And both sides were fundamentalist evangelical Christians. The fact that I had an early interest in geology and science was not exactly taken lightly by some in the family. Over the years, I have accumulated a lot of education in science, college classes, while maintaining a full time job as an industrial millwright. And, in my teen years, I noted that few journalists had any scientific education, and sometimes wrote absolutely laughable interpretations of what scientists had told them. The pseudo scientists? Very dangerous people, as they spread disinformation that leads to people making very serious, often life threatening, mistakes, based on the idiocy they peddle.

 

[Oddball]

 

[Aurora Woman]

Well, I will consider myself hugged. You are a lucky person. Having someone close to you that worked in science is a real step up in life. I was the first in my paternal line to finish high school. And both sides were fundamentalist evangelical Christians. The fact that I had an early interest in geology and science was not exactly taken lightly by some in the family. Over the years, I have accumulated a lot of education in science, college classes, while maintaining a full time job as an industrial millwright. And, in my teen years, I noted that few journalists had any scientific education, and sometimes wrote absolutely laughable interpretations of what scientists had told them. The pseudo scientists? Very dangerous people, as they spread disinformation that leads to people making very serious, often life threatening, mistakes, based on the idiocy they peddle.

Yes. And almost as bad, they teach lay people that science -- and scientists -- are not to be trusted. Congratulations on overcoming your childhood handicaps and becoming a fully sentient, critical-thinking, human. Well done.

 

[Weatherman2020]

And who exposed the fraud? Other scientists. Science is self correcting. Unlike the dumb fucks on this board that are constantly trying to denigrate all scientists by the actions of a few that were exposed as frauds by other scientists. And, quite obviously, you title is meant to cast doubt on all scientific research, especially those studying the climate. However, those that actually read science, recognize your intent, and reject your hypothesis that no science is to be trusted.

After THIRTY ONE FAKE PAPERS.

But you’re right, science does self correct. Nobody believes in the Gorebal Warming myth anymore.

 

[Weatherman2020]

View attachment 223725

That’s exactly it. Wear a lab coat or call yourself a professor and the Left turn off their brains. A self proclaimed professor wearing a lab coat is a god to them.

 

[Aurora Woman]

But you’re right, science does self correct. Nobody believes in the Gorebal Warming myth anymore.

I agree 100%. Science is not a religion, and thus in no need of "believers."

 

[Weatherman2020]

But you’re right, science does self correct. Nobody believes in the Gorebal Warming myth anymore.

I agree 100%. Science is not a religion, and thus in no need of "believers."

Tell that to the nutters who claim humans can change sex on a whim.

 

[Natural Citizen]

No science is ever settled.

And peer review itself isn't germane to the scientific method. It's a detriment to the very nature of science research. It's the special interest wing that deters any beneficial scientific progress. And we need to take scientific reasearch back from these special interest institutions.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I’m so old I remember when science findings were not published until peer reviewed.

31 unverified, unable to reproduce studies PUBLISHED. Forehead slapping time.

“A prominent cardiologist formerly at Harvard Medical School and Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston fabricated or falsified data in 31 published studies that should be retracted, officials at the institutions have concluded.

The cardiologist, Dr. Piero Anversa, produced research suggesting that damaged heart muscle could be regenerated with stem cells, a type of cell that can transform itself into a variety of other cells.

Although other laboratories could not reproduce his findings, the work led to the formation of start-up companies to develop new treatments for heart attacks and stroke, and inspired a clinical trial funded by the National Institutes of Health.

Harvard Calls for Retraction of Dozens of Studies by Noted Cardiologist

An excellent example of the self correcting scientific process. This is what keeps frauds at bay, like evolution deniers and climate denier frauds.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Why do all religious people molest children? I read an article that religious people molested children. Clearly this means none of them can be trusted.

 

[Weatherman2020]

I’m so old I remember when science findings were not published until peer reviewed.

31 unverified, unable to reproduce studies PUBLISHED. Forehead slapping time.

“A prominent cardiologist formerly at Harvard Medical School and Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston fabricated or falsified data in 31 published studies that should be retracted, officials at the institutions have concluded.

The cardiologist, Dr. Piero Anversa, produced research suggesting that damaged heart muscle could be regenerated with stem cells, a type of cell that can transform itself into a variety of other cells.

Although other laboratories could not reproduce his findings, the work led to the formation of start-up companies to develop new treatments for heart attacks and stroke, and inspired a clinical trial funded by the National Institutes of Health.

Harvard Calls for Retraction of Dozens of Studies by Noted Cardiologist

An excellent example of the self correcting scientific process. This is what keeps frauds at bay, like evolution deniers and climate denier frauds.

Only took 31 accepted studies for a flag to be raised.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Why do all religious people molest children? I read an article that rwligoois people molested children. Clearly this means none of them can be trusted.

Only homos molest boys.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I’m so old I remember when science findings were not published until peer reviewed.

31 unverified, unable to reproduce studies PUBLISHED. Forehead slapping time.

“A prominent cardiologist formerly at Harvard Medical School and Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston fabricated or falsified data in 31 published studies that should be retracted, officials at the institutions have concluded.

The cardiologist, Dr. Piero Anversa, produced research suggesting that damaged heart muscle could be regenerated with stem cells, a type of cell that can transform itself into a variety of other cells.

Although other laboratories could not reproduce his findings, the work led to the formation of start-up companies to develop new treatments for heart attacks and stroke, and inspired a clinical trial funded by the National Institutes of Health.

Harvard Calls for Retraction of Dozens of Studies by Noted Cardiologist

An excellent example of the self correcting scientific process. This is what keeps frauds at bay, like evolution deniers and climate denier frauds.

Only took 31 accepted studies for a flag to be raised.

Not so. The flag was raised early, when his results could not be duplicated. In the article you linked, there are links to such counter studies from 2004.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Why do all religious people molest children? I read an article that rwligoois people molested children. Clearly this means none of them can be trusted.

Only homos molest boys.

*religious homos.... in other words, all religious people. because I read an article that one time. Logic!

 

[Sunsettommy]

The problem is actually far worse than what Weatherman is pointing out here, since it is far more common than you realize, here is a blog site that post numerous examples:

Retraction Watch

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The problem is actually far worse than what Weatherman is pointing out here, since it is far more common than you realize, here is a blog site that post numerous examples:

Retraction Watch

Apparently the problem is not that bad at all, as this is proof of the self correcting system. Humans lie? Who knew...