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[Quantum Windbag]

Democratic bill to end oil subsidies is defeated in the Senate - CNN

Couldn't find any, could you?

Uh, it's listed in the bill.

Uh, prove it by linking to the bill.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

1. Cut off the Bush tax breaks forever December 25, 2011

2. PUT 25 MILLION unemployed back to work at no less than $17.50 per hour

3. Sign on to a budget that some democrats put forward yet the RINO NO party said NO:

The Peoples Budget does everything this country needs = Smart Economics
* Reduces Debt by $10 trillion
* Creates good-paying jobs
* Fully maintains our social safety net
* Invests in education
* Ends our costly wars
* Closes the tax loopholes that have made offshoring jobs profitable
* Ends oil and gas subsidies that pollute our country at taxpayer expense
* Creates a national infrastructure investment bank to help us make intelligent investments for the future

This fiscally responsible budget represents the future we believe in as Americans, and the CPC really needs our support to keep it on the front burner.

This is one of those occasions we all hope we'll live to see: We really can make a difference right now if we speak up loudly with one voice.

This fiscally responsible budget represents not just common sense; it represents the will of the American people.

These aren't just words on a page or numbers in a table—these dollars and cents mean lives helped or hurt, people succeeding or falling by the wayside, and families lifted up or dragged down.

This is about America.

1. You want to raise taxes on most working Americans? I thought Democrats were supposed to like the poor and middle class.
2. What about the rest of the unemployed? Who is supposed to pay the $17.50 wage? What about all the people who make less money than that?
3. What budget is that? Do you have a link, or does it exist only in your imagination?

This is not about America, it is about you being an idiot.

Gaping Pubis has a sock already?

I have one on each foot.

 

[rdean]

Couldn't find any, could you?

Uh, it's listed in the bill.

Uh, prove it by linking to the bill.

I already gave a link.

You don't seem to link much. Do you know how?

 

[code1211]

Oil and gas "subsidies"?

I bet you can't name a single one, you fucking 'tard.

Democratic bill to end oil subsidies is defeated in the Senate - CNN

Couldn't find any, could you?

There are an array of credits and deductions for ALL companies under which companies that make qualifying expenditures can reduce their profits by the amount of those expenses. These are things that don't a;ways have a direct link to the cost of doing business but are spent and therefore are not profits.

I don't know the particulars of this, but the gist is that other companies would have been able to continue these deductions while the oil companies would have had to add these monies back into profits and pay tax on them.

It is because Democrats hate all profits, but in particular big profits that this was even considered.

What expenses are a cost of doing business but not directly related to conducting business? Health care, vacation pay, entertainment expenses, advertising, general and administrative expenses and so on.

 

[code1211]

I would also urge the bringing home of all troops in the 100+ countries and the 900+ bases around the world. .

That is short-sighted, juvenile thinking.

We have a pretty well defined interest in keeping the sea lanes open. I can understand the navel bases being placed around the world, but what about all of the other bases. The number I've seen is closer to 150 or 200.

The Romans did it for about 600 years, but the reason was to insure that the tribute continued to flow.

The Brits did it for about 200 years and that was to maintain the Empire.

We seem to be doing it for fun. Yahoo! It's actually to make sure that the trade lanes are open and that the commerce can continue.

It's interesting that when you try to find info on this, you find allot of folks who have an ax to grind on this topic. Some sites claim ridiculously large numbers of bases and then walk that number back in the next sentence.

Whatever the real number is, it's too big. Bring the troops home and deploy them on the Mexican border where the invasion is actually happening.

Navy Bases Overseas
List of United States military bases - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[code1211]

Uh, it's listed in the bill.

Uh, prove it by linking to the bill.

I already gave a link.

You don't seem to link much. Do you know how?

I followed your link to the CNN article that discussed the movement of the Democrat and Republican votes between the positions anticipated by the reporter who understood nothing of the topic at hand and resorted to the old us vs them to do the reporting.

If this is what you consider to be an understanding of an issue, that explains what you consider to be an understanding of an issue.

You should have realized if you read the article that it did not even mention the issues involved in the bill much less explain them.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Uh, it's listed in the bill.

Uh, prove it by linking to the bill.

I already gave a link.

You don't seem to link much. Do you know how?

Not to any proof of a subsidy for big oil, you linked to a political biased story about the angelic Democrats fighting the satanic Republicans to remove unnamed and non existent subsidies, all it di was confirm your bias, it did not actually provide any facts.

 

[ShackledNation]

2. PUT 25 MILLION unemployed back to work at no less than $17.50 per hour

This is why America is doomed.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

1. Cut off the Bush tax breaks forever December 25, 2011

2. PUT 25 MILLION unemployed back to work at no less than $17.50 per hour

3. Sign on to a budget that some democrats put forward yet the RINO NO party said NO:

The Peoples Budget does everything this country needs = Smart Economics
* Reduces Debt by $10 trillion
* Creates good-paying jobs
* Fully maintains our social safety net
* Invests in education
* Ends our costly wars
* Closes the tax loopholes that have made offshoring jobs profitable
* Ends oil and gas subsidies that pollute our country at taxpayer expense
* Creates a national infrastructure investment bank to help us make intelligent investments for the future

This fiscally responsible budget represents the future we believe in as Americans, and the CPC really needs our support to keep it on the front burner.

This is one of those occasions we all hope we'll live to see: We really can make a difference right now if we speak up loudly with one voice.

This fiscally responsible budget represents not just common sense; it represents the will of the American people.

These aren't just words on a page or numbers in a table—these dollars and cents mean lives helped or hurt, people succeeding or falling by the wayside, and families lifted up or dragged down.

This is about America.

This has to be the most idiotic shit I've read today. I'm amazed that some of you are even able to dress yourselves in the morning.

 

[Unkotare]

2. PUT 25 MILLION unemployed back to work at no less than $17.50 per hour

This is why America is doomed.

America is NOT "doomed." If you really think the ship is sinking then jump, rat.

 

[ShackledNation]

2. PUT 25 MILLION unemployed back to work at no less than $17.50 per hour

This is why America is doomed.

America is NOT "doomed." If you really think the ship is sinking then jump, rat.

Or I could push you off and lessen the load.

 

[Unkotare]

This is why America is doomed.

America is NOT "doomed." If you really think the ship is sinking then jump, rat.

Or I could push you off and lessen the load.

You could try, if you weren't such a pussy.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

PUT 25 MILLION unemployed back to work at no less than $17.50 per hour

To do that you'd need to enact the entire Republican agenda:

1) Make unions illegal ( 10 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

2) make minimum wage illegal ( 5 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

3) end business taxation ( 5 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

4) make inflation illegal ( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose
5) make Federal debt illegal( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

6) send illegal workers home(8 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

7) Pass Balanced Budget Amendment to Constitution( 3 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

8) cut pay of government workers in half( 4 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

9) Make health insurance competition legal( 6 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

10) end needless business regulations ( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

11) restrict Federal spending to 15% of GNP( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

12) support unlimited free trade( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

13) reduced unemployment compensation, welfare, food stamps, medicaid.( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

14) privatize education, social security ( 4 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

15) end payroll taxes ( 1 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

16) responsibly exploit domestic sources of energy ( 1 million new jobs)

Since Democrats always oppose wisdom and common sense the only serious option is to make them illegal as the Constitution intended.

But if you enacted the entire Republican agenda there would be not only be millions of new jobs, but tremendous upward pressure on wages.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Oil and gas "subsidies"?

I bet you can't name a single one, you fucking 'tard.

Democratic bill to end oil subsidies is defeated in the Senate - CNN

Deprecation is a subsidy?

Now you understand why the American Left is to the left of real Communists

 

[Unkotare]

PUT 25 MILLION unemployed back to work at no less than $17.50 per hour

To do that you'd need to enact the entire Republican agenda:

1) Make unions illegal ( 10 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

2) make minimum wage illegal ( 5 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

3) end business taxation ( 5 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

4) make inflation illegal ( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose
5) make Federal debt illegal( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

6) send illegal workers home(8 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

7) Pass Balanced Budget Amendment to Constitution( 3 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

8) cut pay of government workers in half( 4 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

9) Make health insurance competition legal( 6 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

10) end needless business regulations ( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

11) restrict Federal spending to 15% of GNP( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

12) support unlimited free trade( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

13) reduced unemployment compensation, welfare, food stamps, medicaid.( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

14) privatize education, social security ( 4 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

15) end payroll taxes ( 1 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

16) responsibly exploit domestic sources of energy ( 1 million new jobs)

Since Democrats always oppose wisdom and common sense the only serious option is to make them illegal as the Constitution intended.

But if you enacted the entire Republican agenda there would be not only be millions of new jobs, but tremendous upward pressure on wages.

#1 through 5 are NOT the "Republican Agenda."

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

PUT 25 MILLION unemployed back to work at no less than $17.50 per hour

To do that you'd need to enact the entire Republican agenda:

1) Make unions illegal ( 10 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

2) make minimum wage illegal ( 5 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

3) end business taxation ( 5 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

4) make inflation illegal ( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose
5) make Federal debt illegal( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

6) send illegal workers home(8 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

7) Pass Balanced Budget Amendment to Constitution( 3 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

8) cut pay of government workers in half( 4 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

9) Make health insurance competition legal( 6 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

10) end needless business regulations ( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

11) restrict Federal spending to 15% of GNP( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

12) support unlimited free trade( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

13) reduced unemployment compensation, welfare, food stamps, medicaid.( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

14) privatize education, social security ( 4 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

15) end payroll taxes ( 1 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

16) responsibly exploit domestic sources of energy ( 1 million new jobs)

Since Democrats always oppose wisdom and common sense the only serious option is to make them illegal as the Constitution intended.

But if you enacted the entire Republican agenda there would be not only be millions of new jobs, but tremendous upward pressure on wages.[/QUOTE]




#1 through 5 are NOT the "Republican Agenda."[/QUOTE]


any reason to say that??????????????

 

[Foxfyre]

I'm gonna give the author of this thread benefit of the doubt that it is tongue-in-cheek and was not meant to be taken seriously. It's New Year's Eve and therefore still the Christmas season and a bit of charity is in order.

(If it IS meant to be taken seriously, then yeah, it is pretty.....what's the most kind term one can use here?....remarkable. Yeah, that's it. Remarkable. Not believable. Not intelligent. But remarkable.)

It all comes down to one simple basic economic principle every student should learn in the "Introduction to Economics", let alone Economics 101. That is:

Any wage, benefit, subsidy, regulation, or entitlement that does not secure the rights of the individual and that is not based on free market principles will always forcibly confiscate property from others. And it will always cost more including that absorbed by the bureaucracy necessary to administrate and enforce it than the cost developed in the free market.

These two inevitabilities will invariably leave less incentive and monetary fuel to run the economy which will be diminished in the process.

There is no such thing as a free lunch.

 

[Unkotare]

PUT 25 MILLION unemployed back to work at no less than $17.50 per hour

????

You seem to be having some trouble with the quote function.