Lonestar_logic
Republic of Texas
- May 13, 2009
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driving is different law and you know it! why don't you read what the courts have established on this....? they have been pretty clear on disorderly conduct, disturbing the peace, and when a policeman can enter our homes and when it is required to show id and when our free speech can be infringed.
one thing is FOR CERTAIN....under massachusetts law, gates was not required to show any ID, AND crowley WAS REQUIRED to show his State issued, police identification card carried in his wallet, to mr gates, the first time gates asked for it.
You stated you didn't have to produce ID when requested by an officer of the law. Now you're backpeddling. Typical response from a kool-aid drinker.
Crowley had his ID pinned to his shirt all one needed to do was READ!
Show me the statute under Ma. law that states you do not need to to produce ID was when requested by an officer of the law.
It's called a "Terry stop". Look it up.
You are not required to answer questions, other than to state your name. There was also another SCOTUS case in 2004, Hibel v Nevada, that relied heavily on the Terry case.
Every person has the right to remain silent. The only exception to this is the requirement state your name. You do not have to provide supporting evidence, such as an ID. In the case that you may believe your name would tend to incriminate you, you may invoke your fifth ammendment right to not incriminate yourself and refuse to even state your name.
Just to keep the debate honest, those of you claiming that anyone is required to produce an ID are incorrect. There is no law requiring that every person carry an ID, much less any law that states you must prodice one or be a criminal.
Here's the legal definition of "Terry stop" now point out where it states you do not have to provide proof of you the fuck you are when requested by a police officer. As a matter of fact it states,
Asking for an ID is a reasonable inquiry.The officer must identify himself or herself as a police officer and may make reasonable inquiries.
Terry Stop Law & Legal Definition