The Six - Day War

[P F Tinmore]

Palestinians

Some 600,000 Palestinians lived in the West Bank (occupied by Jordan) and another 356,000 lived in the Gaza Strip (occupied by Egypt) at the outbreak of the Six Day War. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians also lived in refugee camps in Jordan, Syria and Lebanon. In 1964, the Arab League founded the Palestine Liberation Organization, headed by Ahmad al-Shuqayri, and largely controlled by Egypt. The 1964 Arab League summit also called for the deployment of a Palestine Liberation Army. Starting in 1965, the Syrian government supported Palestinian Fatah fedayeen (guerillas) attacks across the armistice line with Israel, greatly exacerbating Syrian-Israeli tensions leading up to the Six Day War. During the war, the Palestinian Division held the first line in the Gaza Strip, along with three Egyptian divisions. Though the Arab armies suffered crushing defeats at the hands of the Israelis, "the fedayeen, who had really provoked it, flourished as a result" of the war. "The war turned them into the only remaining focal point for Arab resistance to Israel at a time of despair and brought to their ranks large numbers of recruits" (Safran, 242-3).

General References

Six Days of War: June 1967 and the Making of the Modern Middle East, Michael B. Oren, 2002
Israel: The Embattled Ally, Nadav Safran, 1981
Jewish Virtual Library

Palestinians

 

[P F Tinmore]

Some 600,000 Palestinians lived in the West Bank (occupied by Jordan) and another 356,000 lived in the Gaza Strip (occupied by Egypt) at the outbreak of the Six Day War.

Yet Israel says it does not occupy because Palestine is not a state.

 

[MJB12741]

Remember the Straits of Tiran blockade? Heh Heh.

Some 600,000 Palestinians lived in the West Bank (occupied by Jordan) and another 356,000 lived in the Gaza Strip (occupied by Egypt) at the outbreak of the Six Day War.

Yet Israel says it does not occupy because Palestine is not a state.

 

[Hossfly]

Palestinians

Some 600,000 Palestinians lived in the West Bank (occupied by Jordan) and another 356,000 lived in the Gaza Strip (occupied by Egypt) at the outbreak of the Six Day War. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians also lived in refugee camps in Jordan, Syria and Lebanon. In 1964, the Arab League founded the Palestine Liberation Organization, headed by Ahmad al-Shuqayri, and largely controlled by Egypt. The 1964 Arab League summit also called for the deployment of a Palestine Liberation Army. Starting in 1965, the Syrian government supported Palestinian Fatah fedayeen (guerillas) attacks across the armistice line with Israel, greatly exacerbating Syrian-Israeli tensions leading up to the Six Day War. During the war, the Palestinian Division held the first line in the Gaza Strip, along with three Egyptian divisions. Though the Arab armies suffered crushing defeats at the hands of the Israelis, "the fedayeen, who had really provoked it, flourished as a result" of the war. "The war turned them into the only remaining focal point for Arab resistance to Israel at a time of despair and brought to their ranks large numbers of recruits" (Safran, 242-3).

General References

Six Days of War: June 1967 and the Making of the Modern Middle East, Michael B. Oren, 2002
Israel: The Embattled Ally, Nadav Safran, 1981
Jewish Virtual Library

Palestinians

I read "Though the Arab armies suffered crushing defeats at the hands of the Israelis....." you keep chirping that the Arabs never lost,the Israelis never won,blah,blah,blah. What is the story here, Twinkletoes?

 

[Jos]

The Lies about the 1967 War are still more Powerful than the Truth

On this 45th anniversary of the start of the Six Days War, here is a reminder of what they said.

In an interview published in Le Monde on 28 February 1968, Israeli Chief of Staff Rabin said this: “I do not believe that Nasser wanted war. The two divisions which he sent into Sinai on 14 May would not have been enough to unleash an offensive against Israel. He knew it and we knew it.”

On 14 April 1971, a report in the Israeli newspaper Al-Hamishmar contained the following statement by Mordecai Bentov, a member of the wartime national government. “The entire story of the danger of extermination was invented in every detail and exaggerated a posteriori to justify the annexation of new Arab territory.”

On 4 April 1972, General Haim Bar-Lev, Rabin’s predecessor as chief of staff, was quoted in Ma’ariv as follows: “We were not threatened with genocide on the eve of the Six Days War, and we had never thought of such a possibility.”

here’s a quote from what Prime Minister Begin said in an unguarded, public moment in 1982. “In June 1967 we had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches did not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us, We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.”

The Lies about the 1967 War are still more Powerful than the Truth | My Catbird Seat

 

[Hossfly]

The Lies about the 1967 War are still more Powerful than the Truth

On this 45th anniversary of the start of the Six Days War, here is a reminder of what they said.

In an interview published in Le Monde on 28 February 1968, Israeli Chief of Staff Rabin said this: “I do not believe that Nasser wanted war. The two divisions which he sent into Sinai on 14 May would not have been enough to unleash an offensive against Israel. He knew it and we knew it.”

On 14 April 1971, a report in the Israeli newspaper Al-Hamishmar contained the following statement by Mordecai Bentov, a member of the wartime national government. “The entire story of the danger of extermination was invented in every detail and exaggerated a posteriori to justify the annexation of new Arab territory.”

On 4 April 1972, General Haim Bar-Lev, Rabin’s predecessor as chief of staff, was quoted in Ma’ariv as follows: “We were not threatened with genocide on the eve of the Six Days War, and we had never thought of such a possibility.”

here’s a quote from what Prime Minister Begin said in an unguarded, public moment in 1982. “In June 1967 we had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches did not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us, We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.”

The Lies about the 1967 War are still more Powerful than the Truth | My Catbird Seat

If you believe a Truther site.

 

[Jos]

If you believe a Truther site.

So what would be the opposite of what you call "Truther site"?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Starting in 1965, the Syrian government supported Palestinian Fatah fedayeen (guerillas) attacks across the armistice line with Israel,...

It is interesting that they called the line between Syria and Israel the armistice line. Now it is typically called the border but it is not. The armistice lines were specifically not borders.

That is still the international border of Syria and Palestine.

 

[Hossfly]

Starting in 1965, the Syrian government supported Palestinian Fatah fedayeen (guerillas) attacks across the armistice line with Israel,...

It is interesting that they called the line between Syria and Israel the armistice line. Now it is typically called the border but it is not. The armistice lines were specifically not borders.

That is still the international border of Syria and Palestine.

Oh, fudge!

 

[pbel]

Palestinians

Some 600,000 Palestinians lived in the West Bank (occupied by Jordan) and another 356,000 lived in the Gaza Strip (occupied by Egypt) at the outbreak of the Six Day War. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians also lived in refugee camps in Jordan, Syria and Lebanon. In 1964, the Arab League founded the Palestine Liberation Organization, headed by Ahmad al-Shuqayri, and largely controlled by Egypt. The 1964 Arab League summit also called for the deployment of a Palestine Liberation Army. Starting in 1965, the Syrian government supported Palestinian Fatah fedayeen (guerillas) attacks across the armistice line with Israel, greatly exacerbating Syrian-Israeli tensions leading up to the Six Day War. During the war, the Palestinian Division held the first line in the Gaza Strip, along with three Egyptian divisions. Though the Arab armies suffered crushing defeats at the hands of the Israelis, "the fedayeen, who had really provoked it, flourished as a result" of the war. "The war turned them into the only remaining focal point for Arab resistance to Israel at a time of despair and brought to their ranks large numbers of recruits" (Safran, 242-3).

General References

Six Days of War: June 1967 and the Making of the Modern Middle East, Michael B. Oren, 2002
Israel: The Embattled Ally, Nadav Safran, 1981
Jewish Virtual Library

Palestinians

The 67 war pre-emptively started by Israel by attacking Arab Armies that were quite unable to attack Israel in terms of forces and were routed easily in 6 days because Israekl had set up this Land Grab by raising tensions and luring the arabs to respond.,


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moshe_Dayan
To wit Dayan:

I know how at least 80 percent of the clashes there started. In my opinion, more than 80 percent, but let's talk about 80 percent. It went this way: We would send a tractor to plough someplace where it wasn't possible to do anything, in the demilitarized area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start to shoot. If they didn't shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance farther, until in the end the Syrians would get annoyed and shoot. And then we would use artillery and later the air force also, and that's how it was.

Also, later, he stated his regrets:


I made a mistake in allowing the Israel conquest of the Golan Heights. As defense minister I should have stopped it because the Syrians were not threatening us at the time [fourth day of the war].

He also portrayed the desire of the residents in the Kibbutzim beneath the Golan Heights that they be captured as stemming from the desire for their agricultural land and not primarily for security reasons. This description was hotly denied by the Kibbutz leaders (the Hula Valley kibbutzim did not get any land on the Golan).[66][67]

Dayan's contention was denied by Muky Tsur, a longtime leader of the United Kibbutz Movement who said "For sure there were discussions about going up the Golan Heights or not going up the Golan Heights, but the discussions were about security for the kibbutzim in Galilee," he said. "I think that Dayan himself didn't want to go to the Golan Heights. This is something we've known for many years. But no kibbutz got any land from conquering the Golan Heights. People who went there went on their own. It's cynicism to say the kibbutzim wanted land."[68]

About Dayan's comments, Israeli ambassador to the United States Michael Oren has said[69]


There is an element of truth to Dayan's claim, but it is important to note that Israel regarded the de-militarized zones in the north as part of their sovereign territory and reserved the right to cultivate them—a right that the Syrians consistently resisted with force. Syria also worked to benefit from the Jordan river before it flowed into Israel, aiming to get use of it as a water source; Syria also actively supported Palestinian resistance movements against Israel. Israel occasionally exploited incidents in the de-militarized zones to strike at the Syrian water diversion project and to punish the Syrians for their support of the Palestinian resistance. Dayan's remarks must also be taken in context of the fact that he was a member of the opposition at the time. His attitude toward the Syrians changed dramatically once he became defense minister. Indeed, on June 8, 1967, Dayan bypassed both the Prime Minister and the Chief of Staff in ordering the Israeli army to attack and capture the Golan.

 

[ima]

Why did the war only last 6 days?

The equipment was rented.

 

[Hossfly]

Why did the war only last 6 days?

The equipment was rented.

6 days of kickass,1 day of rest.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Remember the Straits of Tiran blockade? Heh Heh.

Some 600,000 Palestinians lived in the West Bank (occupied by Jordan) and another 356,000 lived in the Gaza Strip (occupied by Egypt) at the outbreak of the Six Day War.

Yet Israel says it does not occupy because Palestine is not a state.

Indeed, a blockade is an act of war.

Unless Israel does it to Gaza then it is not.

 

[Hossfly]

Why did the war only last 6 days?

The equipment was rented.

6 days of kickass,1 day of rest.

Tinmore will say Israel didn't win,the Ayrabs didn't lose.Watch

 

[Hossfly]

Remember the Straits of Tiran blockade? Heh Heh.

Yet Israel says it does not occupy because Palestine is not a state.

Indeed, a blockade is an act of war.

Unless Israel does it to Gaza then it is not.

Check legal status.

Blockade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[P F Tinmore]

Remember the Straits of Tiran blockade? Heh Heh.

Indeed, a blockade is an act of war.

Unless Israel does it to Gaza then it is not.

Check legal status.

Blockade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Israel and its blockade of the Gaza Strip since 2001 has received the most attention as a continuing crisis.

Israel commits an act of war against the Palestinians and calls it terrorism when they respond.

 

[Hossfly]

Indeed, a blockade is an act of war.

Unless Israel does it to Gaza then it is not.

Check legal status.

Blockade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Israel and its blockade of the Gaza Strip since 2001 has received the most attention as a continuing crisis.

Israel commits an act of war against the Palestinians and calls it terrorism when they respond.

I'm crying tears big as hoss apples.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Some 600,000 Palestinians lived in the West Bank (occupied by Jordan) and another 356,000 lived in the Gaza Strip (occupied by Egypt) at the outbreak of the Six Day War.

Jordan did not own the West Bank. It was occupied Palestinian land. Egypt did not own the Gaza Strip. It was occupied Palestinian land.

Israel claims that it won Palestinian land from Jordan and Egypt.

 

[Hossfly]

Some 600,000 Palestinians lived in the West Bank (occupied by Jordan) and another 356,000 lived in the Gaza Strip (occupied by Egypt) at the outbreak of the Six Day War.

Jordan did not own the West Bank. It was occupied Palestinian land. Egypt did not own the Gaza Strip. It was occupied Palestinian land.

Israel claims that it won Palestinian land from Jordan and Egypt.

Do you have an aversion to reading about history or do you get your information from protester's signs?

 

[SAYIT]

Some 600,000 Palestinians lived in the West Bank (occupied by Jordan) and another 356,000 lived in the Gaza Strip (occupied by Egypt) at the outbreak of the Six Day War.

Jordan did not own the West Bank. It was occupied Palestinian land. Egypt did not own the Gaza Strip. It was occupied Palestinian land.

Israel claims that it won Palestinian land from Jordan and Egypt.

The land in question was and is part of no country and had been used to launch attacks against Israel and Israelis for many years.

According to Wikipedia, the territory did indeed belong to "neighboring Egypt, Syria and Jordan:

International law and the Arab–Israeli conflict
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is a broad international consensus that the actions of the nations involved in the Arab-Israeli conflict violate prohibitions contained in international law.[1][2] However, this legality is disputed by some of the nations involved.[3] Both the basis for international law and disagreement over its applicability in the case of the Arab-Israeli conflict is discussed below.

The conflict goes back to before the 1948 Arab-Israeli war and the founding of Israel (see History of the Arab-Israeli conflict).

As a result of the Six-Day War in 1967, Israel came to occupy large swaths of land once belonging to neighboring Egypt, Syria and Jordan. Following the peace treaties between Israel and Egypt and Israel and Jordan, the conflict today largely revolves around Palestinian statehood.

International law and the Arab