The Six - Day War

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    Palestinians

    Some 600,000 Palestinians lived in the West Bank (occupied by Jordan) and another 356,000 lived in the Gaza Strip (occupied by Egypt) at the outbreak of the Six Day War. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians also lived in refugee camps in Jordan, Syria and Lebanon. In 1964, the Arab League founded the Palestine Liberation Organization, headed by Ahmad al-Shuqayri, and largely controlled by Egypt. The 1964 Arab League summit also called for the deployment of a Palestine Liberation Army. Starting in 1965, the Syrian government supported Palestinian Fatah fedayeen (guerillas) attacks across the armistice line with Israel, greatly exacerbating Syrian-Israeli tensions leading up to the Six Day War. During the war, the Palestinian Division held the first line in the Gaza Strip, along with three Egyptian divisions. Though the Arab armies suffered crushing defeats at the hands of the Israelis, "the fedayeen, who had really provoked it, flourished as a result" of the war. "The war turned them into the only remaining focal point for Arab resistance to Israel at a time of despair and brought to their ranks large numbers of recruits" (Safran, 242-3).

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    Six Days of War: June 1967 and the Making of the Modern Middle East, Michael B. Oren, 2002
    Israel: The Embattled Ally, Nadav Safran, 1981
    Jewish Virtual Library

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    Yet Israel says it does not occupy because Palestine is not a state.
     
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    Remember the Straits of Tiran blockade? Heh Heh.



     
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    I read "Though the Arab armies suffered crushing defeats at the hands of the Israelis....." you keep chirping that the Arabs never lost,the Israelis never won,blah,blah,blah. What is the story here, Twinkletoes?
     
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    The Lies about the 1967 War are still more Powerful than the Truth

    The Lies about the 1967 War are still more Powerful than the Truth | My Catbird Seat
     
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    If you believe a Truther site.
     
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    So what would be the opposite of what you call "Truther site"?
     
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    It is interesting that they called the line between Syria and Israel the armistice line. Now it is typically called the border but it is not. The armistice lines were specifically not borders.

    That is still the international border of Syria and Palestine.
     
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    Oh, fudge!
     
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    The 67 war pre-emptively started by Israel by attacking Arab Armies that were quite unable to attack Israel in terms of forces and were routed easily in 6 days because Israekl had set up this Land Grab by raising tensions and luring the arabs to respond.,


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moshe_Dayan
    To wit Dayan:

    I know how at least 80 percent of the clashes there started. In my opinion, more than 80 percent, but let's talk about 80 percent. It went this way: We would send a tractor to plough someplace where it wasn't possible to do anything, in the demilitarized area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start to shoot. If they didn't shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance farther, until in the end the Syrians would get annoyed and shoot. And then we would use artillery and later the air force also, and that's how it was.

    Also, later, he stated his regrets:


    I made a mistake in allowing the Israel conquest of the Golan Heights. As defense minister I should have stopped it because the Syrians were not threatening us at the time [fourth day of the war].

    He also portrayed the desire of the residents in the Kibbutzim beneath the Golan Heights that they be captured as stemming from the desire for their agricultural land and not primarily for security reasons. This description was hotly denied by the Kibbutz leaders (the Hula Valley kibbutzim did not get any land on the Golan).[66][67]

    Dayan's contention was denied by Muky Tsur, a longtime leader of the United Kibbutz Movement who said "For sure there were discussions about going up the Golan Heights or not going up the Golan Heights, but the discussions were about security for the kibbutzim in Galilee," he said. "I think that Dayan himself didn't want to go to the Golan Heights. This is something we've known for many years. But no kibbutz got any land from conquering the Golan Heights. People who went there went on their own. It's cynicism to say the kibbutzim wanted land."[68]

    About Dayan's comments, Israeli ambassador to the United States Michael Oren has said[69]


    There is an element of truth to Dayan's claim, but it is important to note that Israel regarded the de-militarized zones in the north as part of their sovereign territory and reserved the right to cultivate them—a right that the Syrians consistently resisted with force. Syria also worked to benefit from the Jordan river before it flowed into Israel, aiming to get use of it as a water source; Syria also actively supported Palestinian resistance movements against Israel. Israel occasionally exploited incidents in the de-militarized zones to strike at the Syrian water diversion project and to punish the Syrians for their support of the Palestinian resistance. Dayan's remarks must also be taken in context of the fact that he was a member of the opposition at the time. His attitude toward the Syrians changed dramatically once he became defense minister. Indeed, on June 8, 1967, Dayan bypassed both the Prime Minister and the Chief of Staff in ordering the Israeli army to attack and capture the Golan.
     
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