The single biggest problem with Obamacare.

[Brutus]

Free enterprise has left 30+ million plus people without the ability to purchase adequate health insurance.

too stupid!!! the liberals made competition illegal in health insurance.

Imagine someone who jogs for fun and someone who races in life and death competition? Who would be a faster runner? Now you understand competition and how it makes us better. Not so hard was it? We have to hope the liberal will develop the IQ to understand such basic things. If not, our democracy is doomed

Brutus my man, I cringe when we agree because you sound like such an angry fool stating your dislike for states to regulate health insurance inside their "semi-sovereign" borders. For the life of me I the Republican/Conservative idea of state's rights to regulate insurance and everything else amazes me.

You are arguing against some perceived idea of "liberal". If you drop that random hatred you have some pretty decent ideas.

Your support of "anti-trust" and "anti-state" laws prove you have free thought and just don't toe some kind of ultra capitalist party line. Go with it my friend, drop the hatred.

it is our moral duty to hate liberals. If you disagree please try to say why?

 

[Toronado3800]

too stupid!!! the liberals made competition illegal in health insurance.

Imagine someone who jogs for fun and someone who races in life and death competition? Who would be a faster runner? Now you understand competition and how it makes us better. Not so hard was it? We have to hope the liberal will develop the IQ to understand such basic things. If not, our democracy is doomed

Brutus my man, I cringe when we agree because you sound like such an angry fool stating your dislike for states to regulate health insurance inside their "semi-sovereign" borders. For the life of me I the Republican/Conservative idea of state's rights to regulate insurance and everything else amazes me.

You are arguing against some perceived idea of "liberal". If you drop that random hatred you have some pretty decent ideas.

Your support of "anti-trust" and "anti-state" laws prove you have free thought and just don't toe some kind of ultra capitalist party line. Go with it my friend, drop the hatred.

it is our moral duty to hate liberals. If you disagree please try to say why?

That is just odd. Especially from someone with such liberal anti-state views on healthcare competition. Views I agree with BTW. Sounds like some kind of weird religious cult chant.

As I have been pointing out, the differences between liberals and conservatives in this country just aren't that extreme to be hating over.

How can the average American who might love gun rights but be pro-choice hate liberals or conservatives?

How about a fella who loves his state's environmental laws AND hunts but supports welfare? Who should he hate on?

No one, no moral duty, no clear cut right and wrong in these cases. Not Hitler and Stalin we are talking about here.

 

[Brutus]

As I have been pointing out, the differences between liberals and conservatives in this country just aren't that extreme to be hating over.

too stupid!!! Read "The Road to Serfdom." Obama has a long association with communism and will take us there if he can. He admits to being for single payer and had 2 communist parents. Do you think Hitler Stalin Mao Pol Pot admitted to their liberal end game in the beginning?

Obama can't destroy us as long as the ghost of Jefferson reigns over this country!!

 

[Toronado3800]

As I have been pointing out, the differences between liberals and conservatives in this country just aren't that extreme to be hating over.

too stupid!!! Read "The Road to Serfdom." Obama has a long association with communism and will take us there if he can. He admits to being for single payer and had 2 communist parents. Do you think Hitler Stalin Mao Pol Pot admitted to their liberal end game in the beginning?

Obama can't destroy us as long as the ghost of Jefferson reigns over this country!!

Brutus, your replies seem simple and repetitive with the use of "stupid" so often. Take a breath, you doing ok?

I am sure the members of the Soviet Communist Party admitted they were communists from the beginning. Similar with the rest of the commies. Interesting view on Hitler.

Watch the use of the term "liberal" on non Americans. To be simple, what would Mao's liberal interpretation of our Constitution have to do with anything?

 

[mudwhistle]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYrlDlrLDSQ&feature=relmfu]YouTube - Ronald Reagan speaks out on Socialized Medicine - Audio[/ame]

 

[nraforlife]

The insurance industry is the root cause of unaffordable healthcare. What we are calling 'insurance' is simply a middleman who adds a huge non-value added markup to every medical proccedure. Imagine what our auto 'insurance' bills would be if we expected them to pay for oil changes and tire rotations.......a Grand a month to 'insure' an econobox with an oil change billed at $100???????

The purpose of insurance is to pool large but relatively rare risk, NOT to pay ordinary predictable expenses.

 

[Brutus]

I am sure the members of the Soviet Communist Party admitted they were communists from the beginning. Similar with the rest of the commies. Interesting view on Hitler.

too stupid!!! BO admitted to being a commie when he voted to the left of Bernie Sanders

Watch the use of the term "liberal" on non Americans. To be simple, what would Mao's liberal interpretation of our Constitution have to do with anything?

too stupid!! to a liberal the Constitution means nothing. It is a living document and so changes to meet a liberals commie objectives. THis is how they found the right to abortion in the Constitution and how they stopped a kid from growing pot for personal use on grounds that it was, somehow, interstate commerce.

The liberals could not get an amendment or law so they just found what they wanted in the Constitution. Its subversion or treason, just like when they spied for Stalin and gave him the bomb.

 

[Brutus]

The insurance industry is the root cause of unaffordable healthcare.

of course that is perfectly stupid and liberal given that liberals made competition in health insurance illegal.

 

[Brutus]

YouTube - Ronald Reagan speaks out on Socialized Medicine - Audio

you have to love Reagan!!!Norman Thomas said this in a 1944 speech:

Reagan quoting Norman Thomas

“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of “liberalism,” they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” He went on to say: “I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform.”

 

[rightwinger]

The biggest problem is that it does not go far enough

It does not control costs
Does not increase competition
Does not include a public option

 

[Brutus]

The biggest problem is that it does not go far enough

It does not control costs
Does not increase competition
Does not include a public option

of course, perfectly stupid and liberal!! Capitalism does all those things!! liberal socialism kills or impoverishes. Red China just switched to capitalism and instantly saved 10's of millions from liberal en masse starvation thanks to capitalist cost controls and competition. Is that really over your head

 

[rightwinger]

The biggest problem is that it does not go far enough

It does not control costs
Does not increase competition
Does not include a public option

of course, perfectly stupid and liberal!! Capitalism does all those things!! liberal socialism kills or impoverishes. Red China just switched to capitalism and instantly saved 10's of millions from liberal en masse starvation thanks to capitalist cost controls and competition. Is that really over your head

You have a problem with competition in healthcare?


You Commie!

 

[Brutus]

The biggest problem is that it does not go far enough

It does not control costs
Does not increase competition
Does not include a public option

of course, perfectly stupid and liberal!! Capitalism does all those things!! liberal socialism kills or impoverishes. Red China just switched to capitalism and instantly saved 10's of millions from liberal en masse starvation thanks to capitalist cost controls and competition. Is that really over your head

You have a problem with competition in healthcare?


You Commie!

too stupid!!!!conservative intellectuals universally support capitalist competition in health care as the way to raise quality and lower costs

A liberal simple lacks the IQ to understand capitalism

 

[rightwinger]

of course, perfectly stupid and liberal!! Capitalism does all those things!! liberal socialism kills or impoverishes. Red China just switched to capitalism and instantly saved 10's of millions from liberal en masse starvation thanks to capitalist cost controls and competition. Is that really over your head

You have a problem with competition in healthcare?


You Commie!

too stupid!!!!conservative intellectuals universally support capitalist competition in health care as the way to raise quality and lower costs

A liberal simple lacks the IQ to understand capitalism

No they don't

They suck up to the insurance companies and protected them from the competition of the Govt option. They also sold out to Big Pharmacy and proected them from competition in Medicare part D

 

[Brutus]

No they don't

They suck up to the insurance companies and protected them from the competition of the Govt option.

a public option would be wonderful as long as the government relied 100% on premiums to pay for any health care, rather than on its unlimited taxing authority. THey of course would never agree to that in a million years. The idea that the liberal socialists who run the Post office, motor vehicle departments, and who ran the USSR and Red China could do anything efficiently and competitively is absurd!

A liberal will simply lack the IQ to understand capitalism.

 

[rightwinger]

No they don't

They suck up to the insurance companies and protected them from the competition of the Govt option.

a public option would be wonderful as long as the government relied 100% on premiums to pay for any health care, rather than on its unlimited taxing authority. THey of course would never agree to that in a million years. The idea that the liberal socialists who run the Post office, motor vehicle departments, and who ran the USSR and Red China could do anything efficiently and competitively is absurd!

A liberal will simply lack the IQ to understand capitalism.

How naive..

Public option was always to be paid for by premiums. Lower overhead, lower pay for executives, no advertising budget........lower premiums and more competition

republicans sold out to the insurance companies...as always

 

[Brutus]

No they don't

They suck up to the insurance companies and protected them from the competition of the Govt option.

a public option would be wonderful as long as the government relied 100% on premiums to pay for any health care, rather than on its unlimited taxing authority. THey of course would never agree to that in a million years. The idea that the liberal socialists who run the Post office, motor vehicle departments, and who ran the USSR and Red China could do anything efficiently and competitively is absurd!

A liberal will simply lack the IQ to understand capitalism.

How naive..

Public option was always to be paid for by premiums. Lower overhead, lower pay for executives, no advertising budget........lower premiums and more competition

too stupid!!
1) no one believed it would pay for itself, all government costs far more than planned

2) it was a trojan horse for socialism

3) it libturds wanted competition they would let insurance companies compete with each other

4) if government competition was anything but purely idiotic we'd have a public option for food, clothing, and shelter

See why we are 100 %positive the liberal will lack the IQ to understand capitalism??

 

[rightwinger]

a public option would be wonderful as long as the government relied 100% on premiums to pay for any health care, rather than on its unlimited taxing authority. THey of course would never agree to that in a million years. The idea that the liberal socialists who run the Post office, motor vehicle departments, and who ran the USSR and Red China could do anything efficiently and competitively is absurd!

A liberal will simply lack the IQ to understand capitalism.

How naive..

Public option was always to be paid for by premiums. Lower overhead, lower pay for executives, no advertising budget........lower premiums and more competition

too stupid!!
1) no one believed it would pay for itself, all government costs far more than planned

2) it was a trojan horse for socialism

3) it libturds wanted competition they would let insurance companies compete with each other

4) if government competition was anything but purely idiotic we'd have a public option for food, clothing, and shelter

See why we are 100 %positive the liberal will lack the IQ to understand capitalism??

Nice talking points...

Did the insurance lobby give them to you?

 

[Toronado3800]

a public option would be wonderful as long as the government relied 100% on premiums to pay for any health care, rather than on its unlimited taxing authority. THey of course would never agree to that in a million years. The idea that the liberal socialists who run the Post office, motor vehicle departments, and who ran the USSR and Red China could do anything efficiently and competitively is absurd!

A liberal will simply lack the IQ to understand capitalism.

How naive..

Public option was always to be paid for by premiums. Lower overhead, lower pay for executives, no advertising budget........lower premiums and more competition

too stupid!!
1) no one believed it would pay for itself, all government costs far more than planned
2) it was a trojan horse for socialism

3) it libturds wanted competition they would let insurance companies compete with each other

4) if government competition was anything but purely idiotic we'd have a public option for food, clothing, and shelter

See why we are 100 %positive the liberal will lack the IQ to understand capitalism??

Brutus my friend, your posts are rather mean and insulting. Having the effect of limiting bipartisan debate and making folks turn off to any points you have.

It is good however to note you are not Catholic and probably not practicing any religion. Many folks who classify themselves as conservative do so partially for religious reasons.

How do I know you are not a follower of a Catholic like god or any god I am familiar with? You are so mean and insulting St Peter wouod turn you away. Heck, if I were a practicing Catholic I would be nicer then u are being just so I wouldnt have to confess my sins every week. That many Hail Marys woukd get booring.

 

[Toronado3800]

The biggest problem is that it does not go far enough

It does not control costs
Does not increase competition
Does not include a public option

of course, perfectly stupid and liberal!! Capitalism does all those things!! liberal socialism kills or impoverishes. Red China just switched to capitalism and instantly saved 10's of millions from liberal en masse starvation thanks to capitalist cost controls and competition. Is that really over your head

With the virtually unregulated capitalist hot rod market I have been unable to afford an aftermarket multi port injection system for twenty years. Oh well, maybe by the time I really need one I will be able to both keep my house and afford a kidney.