"The Senate Bill Saves Families Money"

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    The Senate Bill Saves Families Money - Kaiser Health News


    Health care reform looks like it’s finally ready to pass the Senate, now that the Democrats have 60 votes in hand. But here on the left, not all of us are jumping for joy. Some think the Senate bill is just barely better than nothing. Others think it’s worse than even that.

    As this argument goes, health care reform won’t do all that much to help people who need it. Insurance will still be expensive and even people who have coverage will discover they owe significant out-of-pocket expenses once they get sick. A public insurance option might have made this tolerable, since it would have provided better, cheaper coverage. Without it, many of us are arguing, reform is just a big giveaway to the insurance industry--one that produces little social progress.

    It’s certainly true that, under the terms of the Senate bill, insurance would cost more and cover less than many of us would prefer. But would it really produce little social progress? Is it really worse than nothing?

    One way to answer this question is by comparing how a typical family would fare with reform and without. At my request, MIT economist Jonathan Gruber produced a set of figures, based on official Congressional Budget Office estimates. The results tell a pretty compelling story, particularly when put in human terms.

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    We'll see...
     
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    Lower price lower benefits.
    Healthcare rationed the old fashioned way. Money.
     
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    moron, health care is currently rationed.
     
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    Yep and I figure all this bill does is ration out a little more to the lower middle classes.
    At the expense of tax dollars with no ofsetting savings from the healthcare industry.
     
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    Does anyone know if you still have to buy it or go to jail?

    does not matter to me as I have private ins and will soon be moving to medicare.
     
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    Actually, the actuarial value of the policies is higher.
     
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    Well--something has to give. Just like today in private insurance--if you want a lower premium you have to go to a very high deductible out of pocket expense.

    What I don't think the left is going to like--is having to pay for it. Let's face it--many who voted for Obama & all these democrats believed they were going to get "free" health care paid for by others. WRONG.
     

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