The sad state of the Republican race

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The sad state of the Republican race



The conventional wisdom is set: Newt Gingrich's overwhelming victory in South Carolina sets the stage for an extended primary in which he represents the conservative base and Mitt Romney represents the more electable choice of the Republican establishment. But there's a key flaw in this narrative. Gingrich, the supposedly conservative choice, isn't reliably conservative and the supposedly electable candidate is looking less and less electable.


Romney, throughout the Republican race, was an incredibly vulnerable front-runner, given that he ran and governed as a moderate/liberal in Massachusetts and signed the health care law that was the model for the rightly-despised Obamacare. But his great organization, fundraising abilities and business background in an election about the economy were supposed to make him electable. Yet over the past few weeks, he's been unable to effectively respond to Gingrich's attacks on his career at private equity firm Bain Capital and to calls for him to release his tax returns. His favorability ratings have already been suffering, and today he got absolutely slaughtered in a state in which the establishment front-runner typically beats off insurgents and effectively locks down the nomination.


Given conservatives' deep reservations about Romney, there's always been an opening for a conservative alternative to him. And in theory, an extended primary between Romney and a consistent conservative outsider that elites dismiss as unelectable could be satisfying and healthy. The problem is that Gingrich, boosted by two debate performances in which he lashed out at moderators, was able to claim that mantle. And no more bizarre definition of "anti-establishment conservative" ever existed. Gingrich has been in Washington since Jimmy Carter was president. He lives in a ritzy suburb of DC. After being ousted from his role as Speaker of the House by his own party, he's profited by taking money from large corporations such as drug companies and Freddie Mac to push for polices that expand government, including (at the time) the largest expansion of entitlements since the Great Society in the form of the Medicare prescription drug plan. He recorded a global warming ad with then House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. In 2008, he endorsed an federal mandate to force individuals to purchase health insurance. And in one of the early tests of the Tea Party in 2009, he sided with the establishment candidate Dede Scozzafava over the conservative. Oh, and Gingrich also happens to be widely unpopular.


Over the next few weeks, or months, Gingrich will argue that Romney isn't conservative and isn't as electable as the establishment will have you believe, while Romney will argue that Gingrich isn't electable and isn't as conservative as he'd have you believe. And they'll both be right.


MORE at the link.
 
The conventional wisdom is set: Newt Gingrich's overwhelming victory in South Carolina sets the stage for an extended primary in which he represents the conservative base and Mitt Romney represents the more electable choice of the Republican establishment. But there's a key flaw in this narrative. Gingrich, the supposedly conservative choice, isn't reliably conservative and the supposedly electable candidate is looking less and less electable.

True and well said, the GOP has painted itself into a corner with both candidates – both equally unelectable.

And no more bizarre definition of "anti-establishment conservative" ever existed [than Gingrich].

Correct again.

Gingrich is in essence the fantasy candidate for the far right, a snarling, foaming-at-the-mouth attack dog to be set upon Obama – only to find out he’s all bark, foam, and no bite. All democrats hate Gingrich, even weak ‘Reagan democrats,’ who might be inclined to vote for Romney, will have nothing to do with Gingrich, the same democrats the GOP nominee will need to win.
 
The conventional wisdom is set: Newt Gingrich's overwhelming victory in South Carolina sets the stage for an extended primary in which he represents the conservative base and Mitt Romney represents the more electable choice of the Republican establishment. But there's a key flaw in this narrative. Gingrich, the supposedly conservative choice, isn't reliably conservative and the supposedly electable candidate is looking less and less electable.
True and well said, the GOP has painted itself into a corner with both candidates – both equally unelectable.

And no more bizarre definition of "anti-establishment conservative" ever existed [than Gingrich].
Correct again.

Gingrich is in essence the fantasy candidate for the far right, a snarling, foaming-at-the-mouth attack dog to be set upon Obama – only to find out he’s all bark, foam, and no bite. All democrats hate Gingrich, even weak ‘Reagan democrats,’ who might be inclined to vote for Romney, will have nothing to do with Gingrich, the same democrats the GOP nominee will need to win.


If Newt thinks he is going to handle the Obama campaign like he handled John King, he's in for a big shock! :lol:
 
yawn!

the sad state of the republican race



the conventional wisdom is set: Newt gingrich's overwhelming victory in south carolina sets the stage for an extended primary in which he represents the conservative base and mitt romney represents the more electable choice of the republican establishment. But there's a key flaw in this narrative. Gingrich, the supposedly conservative choice, isn't reliably conservative and the supposedly electable candidate is looking less and less electable.


Romney, throughout the republican race, was an incredibly vulnerable front-runner, given that he ran and governed as a moderate/liberal in massachusetts and signed the health care law that was the model for the rightly-despised obamacare. But his great organization, fundraising abilities and business background in an election about the economy were supposed to make him electable. Yet over the past few weeks, he's been unable to effectively respond to gingrich's attacks on his career at private equity firm bain capital and to calls for him to release his tax returns. His favorability ratings have already been suffering, and today he got absolutely slaughtered in a state in which the establishment front-runner typically beats off insurgents and effectively locks down the nomination.


Given conservatives' deep reservations about romney, there's always been an opening for a conservative alternative to him. And in theory, an extended primary between romney and a consistent conservative outsider that elites dismiss as unelectable could be satisfying and healthy. The problem is that gingrich, boosted by two debate performances in which he lashed out at moderators, was able to claim that mantle. and no more bizarre definition of "anti-establishment conservative" ever existed. Gingrich has been in washington since jimmy carter was president. He lives in a ritzy suburb of dc. After being ousted from his role as speaker of the house by his own party, he's profited by taking money from large corporations such as drug companies and freddie mac to push for polices that expand government, including (at the time) the largest expansion of entitlements since the great society in the form of the medicare prescription drug plan. He recorded a global warming ad with then house speaker nancy pelosi. In 2008, he endorsed an federal mandate to force individuals to purchase health insurance. And in one of the early tests of the tea party in 2009, he sided with the establishment candidate dede scozzafava over the conservative. Oh, and gingrich also happens to be widely unpopular.


over the next few weeks, or months, gingrich will argue that romney isn't conservative and isn't as electable as the establishment will have you believe, while romney will argue that gingrich isn't electable and isn't as conservative as he'd have you believe. And they'll both be right.


More at the link.
 
yawn!

the sad state of the republican race



the conventional wisdom is set: Newt gingrich's overwhelming victory in south carolina sets the stage for an extended primary in which he represents the conservative base and mitt romney represents the more electable choice of the republican establishment. But there's a key flaw in this narrative. Gingrich, the supposedly conservative choice, isn't reliably conservative and the supposedly electable candidate is looking less and less electable.


Romney, throughout the republican race, was an incredibly vulnerable front-runner, given that he ran and governed as a moderate/liberal in massachusetts and signed the health care law that was the model for the rightly-despised obamacare. But his great organization, fundraising abilities and business background in an election about the economy were supposed to make him electable. Yet over the past few weeks, he's been unable to effectively respond to gingrich's attacks on his career at private equity firm bain capital and to calls for him to release his tax returns. His favorability ratings have already been suffering, and today he got absolutely slaughtered in a state in which the establishment front-runner typically beats off insurgents and effectively locks down the nomination.


Given conservatives' deep reservations about romney, there's always been an opening for a conservative alternative to him. And in theory, an extended primary between romney and a consistent conservative outsider that elites dismiss as unelectable could be satisfying and healthy. The problem is that gingrich, boosted by two debate performances in which he lashed out at moderators, was able to claim that mantle. and no more bizarre definition of "anti-establishment conservative" ever existed. Gingrich has been in washington since jimmy carter was president. He lives in a ritzy suburb of dc. After being ousted from his role as speaker of the house by his own party, he's profited by taking money from large corporations such as drug companies and freddie mac to push for polices that expand government, including (at the time) the largest expansion of entitlements since the great society in the form of the medicare prescription drug plan. He recorded a global warming ad with then house speaker nancy pelosi. In 2008, he endorsed an federal mandate to force individuals to purchase health insurance. And in one of the early tests of the tea party in 2009, he sided with the establishment candidate dede scozzafava over the conservative. Oh, and gingrich also happens to be widely unpopular.


over the next few weeks, or months, gingrich will argue that romney isn't conservative and isn't as electable as the establishment will have you believe, while romney will argue that gingrich isn't electable and isn't as conservative as he'd have you believe. And they'll both be right.


More at the link.
If you need a nap, go to bed. This article is from the Rightwing Examiner.

Sucks for you! :laugh:
 
Its an election year, the primaries have barely started, and yet Pawlenty, Bachmann, Perry, Cain, and Huntsman have found out that they are not in the running

Look at this delegate total so far, and realize that it will be a long primary process
GOP Delegate Calculator - Election Center 2012 - Elections & Politics from CNN.com

Next look at the dems recalling the 2010 mid-terms. No one ever was re-elected president if the unemployment rate was over 7.5%

The contrasts between Mitt and the dems will be stark. Mr. "can-do" and Mr. "won't do". Especially if the EU starts to collapse and the US economy hits a double-dip (20% probability)
Double Dip Recession Less Likely, But Forecast Remains Gloomy

2012 could be like a reverse 2008 if things go from bad to worse. The dems shouldn't be too confident, the only shot they have of re-taking the House is if Newt is the GOP nominee
Larry J. Sabato's Crystal Ball

In the Senate the GOP is favored to take that gavel by the fact that the dems have 23 seats in-play and the GOP only 10-seats
RealClearPolitics - Assessing the 2012 Senate Battlefield
 
2012 could be like a reverse 2008 if things go from bad to worse. The dems shouldn't be too confident, the only shot they have of re-taking the House is if Newt is the GOP nominee
Larry J. Sabato's Crystal Ballhttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...ssing_the_2012_senate_battlefield_108599.html


That's not the only shot. A lot of House Republican teabaggers are going to have a hard time explaining what they have been doing for the past 2 years.


And Tim Pawlenty showed that he is too stupid to be president, by dropping out after the Iowa straw vote. The STRAW VOTE!!! It's just a bought and paid for exercise for the activists, not a vote by the regular voters.
 
To say that any candidate is "unelectable" is completely absurd and a narrative being put out there by the left because they know Obama isn't doing well and they want to disparage the opposition. At the end of the day it's going to come down to who Americans think can steer the country back on track. If that individual isn't Obama, then the alternative wins, plain and simple, regardless of who it is.
 
2012 could be like a reverse 2008 if things go from bad to worse. The dems shouldn't be too confident, the only shot they have of re-taking the House is if Newt is the GOP nominee
Larry J. Sabato's Crystal Ballhttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...ssing_the_2012_senate_battlefield_108599.html

That's not the only shot. A lot of House Republican teabaggers are going to have a hard time explaining what they have been doing for the past 2 years.

And Tim Pawlenty showed that he is too stupid to be president, by dropping out after the Iowa straw vote. The STRAW VOTE!!! It's just a bought and paid for exercise for the activists, not a vote by the regular voters.

You seem to be forgetting the 2010 mid-terms. The teabaggers still have a lot of money and a lot of energy. Things like the unemployment rate, Budget deficit, Keystone pipeline and the SC Boeing plant will be MAJOR issues, not to mention things like Solyndra and "Fast & Furious".
Pawlenty was not presidential timber, and he knew it. Ron Paul is not and doesn't know it.
 
Are "conservatives" STILL....


"The need for an educational campaign on EC stems in part from the confusion created by the anti-choice movement’s strategy of intentionally mischaracterizing EC, and increasingly all forms of hormonal birth control, as abortion."

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The only people who read the Examiner are leftists. For some bizzare reason, they feel comfortable knowing that they are the stupidest people in the room.
 
A sad state is when the party that controls both the White house and the Senate spends the majority of it's time bashing the previous President and the current possible contenders instead of promoting and highlighting their successes.
 
In there weren't so many people passionately interested and invested in the process this cycle, then it wouldn't have been so fractured...but so many are hyper concerned about getting the best candidate to beat Obama. However, at the end of the day, the vast majority will vote, reluctantly or not, for anyone but Obama.
 
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A sad state is when the party that controls both the White house and the Senate spends the majority of it's time bashing the previous President and the current possible contenders instead of promoting and highlighting their successes.

You have to have successes in order to tout them.
 
Being realistic. I think Obama will not be reelected. People are really upset over all that has happened in their livelyhoods due to this administration, and I don't believe they will repeat this mistake. If people were smart, they would vote out all incumbants. Everyone of them. The trouble is all these politicians are after what they can gain, and they could care less about you,other then your votes.
 

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