The Romney/Ryan plan for Medicare

[8537]

You are fairly clueless. Ryan's plan is irrelevant.

Romney's plan is the one which will be implemented, based on what the Congress decides as they negotiate and compromise.

Asked what the differences were between Ayn Ryan's plan and his own yesterday, Romney could not name a single thing.

The Romney plan is the Ryan plan is the Romney / Ryan plan. Ryanomics are the campaign's plans.

More ignorance, but then again, you are a Liberal.

LOL

Indeed, Romney is ignorant - so ignorant of his own plan that he can't identify a single distinguishing characteristic from the Ryan plan.

You know why? Because his plan is the Ayn Ryan plan. He adopted it when he adopted Ryan.

 

[SniperFire]

Will he also explain that those same cuts are in his plan......but the $$ don't go to the same place?

You are fairly clueless. Ryan's plan is irrelevant.

Romney's plan is the one which will be implemented, based on what the Congress decides as they negotiate and compromise.

Oh. Isn't that convenient. If you actually believed that, you would be far more interesting.

It is not 'convenient, it is fact.

You are an uninformed simpleton, and have displayed it to the class.

 

[Mac1958]

Ohh you mean just like the Medicare Advantage that costs taxpayers 14% more than typical medicare does?
That Medicare Advantage?

Yes, that Medicare Advantage.

It no longer costs 14% more since the cutbacks, and the insurance companies are doing just fine. And here's a few more fun facts that the media does not report.

There are three kinds of Medicare Advantage plans: PFFS, PPO and HMO.

The PFFS (Private Fee For Service) plan is the one of the three that cost so much because it did not require networks or referrals. It was completely open and impossible to control costs on. The PFFS plans have been largely phased out after the cutbacks, I think just rural areas have them now.

The PPO (Preferred Provider Organization) plan is less costly to operate because the insurer has a little more control over the flow of services provided. Right now the average PPO MA plan costs anywhere from $20 to $60 per month depending on the area and insurer. And it does not cost more than Medicare.

The HMO (Health Maintenance Organization) plan is even less costly to operate because the insurer uses a smaller, far more controlled network of providers. Right now the average HMO MA plan costs anywhere from $0 (yes, zero dollars) to $20 per month depending on the area and insurer. And it costs less to operate than Medicare.

And more:

Medicare Advantage plans not only cover many of the gaps in Medicare, they provide excellent preventive coverage as well. Traditional Medicare has deductibles and covers only 80% of expenses. Medicare Advantage plans use simple co-pays. An excellent example is the simple doctor visit, covered under Medicare B. Many people who have only Medicare just don't go to the doctor because they can't afford the $140 annual deductible. With a Medicare Advantage plan, there is no deductible and the co-pay may be $10 or $20.

Oh, and most MA plans include the Part D drug coverage. When seniors buy those plans standalone to go with Medicare Supplements, they cost $30 to $75 per month. But no extra charge for them in MA plans. How cool is that!

I could go on, but why bother? This argument isn't about facts, it's about politics. The misinformation being spread is counterproductive, if predictable. I do wish the partisan bullshit would at least slow down a bit, this is important stuff.

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Updated to include the fact that MA plans include drug coverage.

Not sure why I'm bothering, but what the hell.

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[JoeB131]

Obama's gut-wrenching $716 billion cut in Medicare has been exposed.

Paul Ryan is the only wonk in America that can explain that to the American people, and he has the stage.

Yeah, because Americans are really good at numbers..

Oh, wait. Ryan wants to keep Obama's 716 billion in Savings and then do some additional cuts on top of those.

And expand Medicare Part C, which is a boondoggle.

 

[SniperFire]

Obama's gut-wrenching $716 billion cut in Medicare has been exposed.

Paul Ryan is the only wonk in America that can explain that to the American people, and he has the stage.

Yeah, because Americans are really good at numbers..

Oh, wait. Ryan wants to keep Obama's 716 billion in Savings and then do some additional cuts on top of those.

And expand Medicare Part C, which is a boondoggle.

Obama is the ONLY person EVER to gut Medicare.

Romney / Ryan and the SuperPacs are now making sure everybody knows it.

 

[JoeB131]

Obama's gut-wrenching $716 billion cut in Medicare has been exposed.

Paul Ryan is the only wonk in America that can explain that to the American people, and he has the stage.

Yeah, because Americans are really good at numbers..

Oh, wait. Ryan wants to keep Obama's 716 billion in Savings and then do some additional cuts on top of those.

And expand Medicare Part C, which is a boondoggle.

Obama is the ONLY person EVER to gut Medicare.

Romney / Ryan and the SuperPacs are now making sure everybody knows it.
]

Well, they can try it, but only wingnuts and teabaggers will buy it.

Medicare recipiants are already seeing the benefits of the ACA. Closing the donut hole, for instance.

 

[SniperFire]

Yeah, because Americans are really good at numbers..

Oh, wait. Ryan wants to keep Obama's 716 billion in Savings and then do some additional cuts on top of those.

And expand Medicare Part C, which is a boondoggle.

Obama is the ONLY person EVER to gut Medicare.

Romney / Ryan and the SuperPacs are now making sure everybody knows it.
]

Well, they can try it, but only wingnuts and teabaggers will buy it.

Medicare recipiants are already seeing the benefits of the ACA. Closing the donut hole, for instance.

The cuts to Granny's Medicare begin January, 2013.

The only way to stop the cuts is to vote Romney / Ryan in.

Granny will have no cuts under the Romney plan.

Spread the word.

 

[Seawytch]

Obama's gut-wrenching $716 billion cut in Medicare has been exposed.

Paul Ryan is the only wonk in America that can explain that to the American people, and he has the stage.

Isn't it weird that you don' hear a lot of senior complaining about all these "cuts" in Medicare? Of course, that is probably because those "cuts" haven't affected their care in the slightest. Those "cuts" were actually cutting waste, fraud and abuse...the kind of stuff I like to see. Why don't you?

 

[Liability]

Raving Dipshit starts off her thread with what the Romney/Ryan plan "seems" to be -- to her.



Not to worry, Raving. There was zero chance of you having any credibility anyway.

 

[JoeB131]

Obama is the ONLY person EVER to gut Medicare.

Romney / Ryan and the SuperPacs are now making sure everybody knows it.
]

Well, they can try it, but only wingnuts and teabaggers will buy it.

Medicare recipiants are already seeing the benefits of the ACA. Closing the donut hole, for instance.

The cuts to Granny's Medicare begin January, 2013.

The only way to stop the cuts is to vote Romney / Ryan in.

Granny will have no cuts under the Romney plan.

Spread the word.

Ryan says he's keeping the savings- which will be cuts to insurance companies and hospitals and drug makers... not granny.

Granny still gets her treatment, the douchebags just don't make as much profit from it.. Boo fucking hooo..

 

[Truthmatters]

Like the money Obama stole from Medicaid to finance Obamacare?

got any proof of your claim goatless boy?

 

[SniperFire]

Obama's gut-wrenching $716 billion cut in Medicare has been exposed.

Paul Ryan is the only wonk in America that can explain that to the American people, and he has the stage.

Isn't it weird that you don' hear a lot of senior complaining about all these "cuts" in Medicare? Of course, that is probably because those "cuts" haven't affected their care in the slightest. Those "cuts" were actually cutting waste, fraud and abuse...the kind of stuff I like to see. Why don't you?

This is because the media has covered it up.

Here are the facts, Seabitch.


Obama's cuts to Medicare begin on January. 2013.

The Romney plan will NOT cut Granny's Medicare.

Now, the Republicans will be spending HEAVILY to make sure that our Seniors understand this FACT, and Paul Ryan will have the big stage to drive the FACT home.


But if you care for our seniors, do your part and help spread the word.

 

[Liability]

Like the money Obama stole from Medicaid to finance Obamacare?

got any proof of your claim goatless boy?

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TderpM doesn't even know about the money the President TOOK FROM Medicare to pay for (a part of) Obamacare.

 

[SniperFire]

Like the money Obama stole from Medicaid to finance Obamacare?

got any proof of your claim goatless boy?

^

TderpM doesn't even know about the money the President TOOK FROM Medicare to pay for (a part of) Obmacare.

In fact, Obama paid for a full 1/3rd of Obamacare by taking the money used for granny's hip replacements.


Spread the word.

 

[Seawytch]

Obama's gut-wrenching $716 billion cut in Medicare has been exposed.

Paul Ryan is the only wonk in America that can explain that to the American people, and he has the stage.

Isn't it weird that you don' hear a lot of senior complaining about all these "cuts" in Medicare? Of course, that is probably because those "cuts" haven't affected their care in the slightest. Those "cuts" were actually cutting waste, fraud and abuse...the kind of stuff I like to see. Why don't you?

This is because the media has covered it up.

Here are the facts, Seabitch.


Obama's cuts to Medicare begin on January. 2013.

The Romney plan will NOT cut Granny's Medicare.

Now, the Republicans will be spending HEAVILY to make sure that our Seniors understand this FACT, and Paul Ryan will have the big stage to drive the FACT home.


But if you care for our seniors, do your part and help spread the word.

Oh...the "media" is covering up all these dying grannies eh?

You don't even believe your own tripe.

 

[SniperFire]

Well, they can try it, but only wingnuts and teabaggers will buy it.

Medicare recipiants are already seeing the benefits of the ACA. Closing the donut hole, for instance.

The cuts to Granny's Medicare begin January, 2013.

The only way to stop the cuts is to vote Romney / Ryan in.

Granny will have no cuts under the Romney plan.

Spread the word.

Ryan says he's keeping the savings- which will be cuts to insurance companies and hospitals and drug makers... not granny.

Granny still gets her treatment, the douchebags just don't make as much profit from it.. Boo fucking hooo..

Bullshit, dude.

NOTHING changes for granny in the Romney plan.

Educate yourself, because you are coming across as a bigger ass than usual.

 

[Truthmatters]

A closer look at Paul Ryan's federal budget plan - latimes.com

this outlines the ryan plan in decent detail

 

[SniperFire]

A closer look at Paul Ryan's federal budget plan - latimes.com

this outlines the ryan plan in decent detail

assless chaps. Try to focus.

We are talking about the Romney plan, which does not take Medicare money from granny beginning January 2013, compared to Obama's plan, which robs granny of 3/4 trillion in Medicare funding beginning in January 2013.

 

[8537]

A closer look at Paul Ryan's federal budget plan - latimes.com

this outlines the ryan plan in decent detail

assless chaps. Try to focus.

We are talking about the Romney plan, which does not take Medicare money from granny beginning January 2013, compared to Obama's plan, which robs granny of 3/4 trillion in Medicare funding beginning in January 2013.

Asked yesterday what distinguishes his plan from the Ryan plan, Romney could offer zero substantive differences.

Know why? Because the Ayn Ryan plan and the Romney Plan are the same plan.

 

[SniperFire]

A closer look at Paul Ryan's federal budget plan - latimes.com

this outlines the ryan plan in decent detail

assless chaps. Try to focus.

We are talking about the Romney plan, which does not take Medicare money from granny beginning January 2013, compared to Obama's plan, which robs granny of 3/4 trillion in Medicare funding beginning in January 2013.

Asked yesterday what distinguishes his plan from the Ryan plan, Romney could offer zero substantive differences.

Know why? Because the Ayn Ryan plan and the Romney Plan are the same plan.

Wrong, moron. But why not repeat it again if it makes you feel better?


LOL