The rising non-violent movement in palestine

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJvi8b_IGAM]YouTube - THE RISING NON-VIOLENT MOVEMENT IN PALESTINE[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb_QylA45OE]YouTube - Pt.2 THE RISING NON-VIOLENT MOVEMENT IN PALESTINE[/ame]
 
2010-02-03

"For the Nobel Committee to give their 2010 Award to Dr. Barghouthi would be a recognition of not only his great spirit of peace and nonviolence, but also the Palestinian Nonviolent Movement, which gives us all hope for the future of Palestine, Israel and the Middle East Community.

Dr. Barghouthi was born in Jerusalem in l954 to a Palestinian family from Deir Ghassaneh village in the Ramallah District. As well as a Medical Graduate of Friendship University, Faculty of Medicine and got his degree in Business, Administration and Management from Stanford university , he is a member of the Palestinian Parliament; former Minister of Information under the 2007 National Unity Government; 2005 presidential candidate; General secretary of the Palestinian National Initiative; social, political, human rights and peace activist,one of the most active grassroots leaders in Palestine, campaigner for the development of Palestinian civil society and grassroots democracy, outspoken advocate for internal reform, international spokesperson for the Palestinian cause, leading figure in the non-violent, peaceful struggle against the occupation, and organizer of international solidarity present in Palestine.

Mustafa Barghouthi Nominated for 2010 Nobel Peace Prize

He is a peace activist. You are not opposed to peace, are you?
 
Palestinian non-violent resistance is not a new phenomenon - it goes back to the early 20th century. For example:

1902 - residents of the Palestinian villages of al-Shajara, Misha and Melhamiyya held a collective non-violent protest against the takeover of 70,000 dunums of village agricultural land by Zionist settlers

1936 - Palestinians staged a 6-month non-violent strike against the British Mandate, protesting the British government’s refusal to grant Palestinians self-determination

In fact, it was not until the 1970s (after decades of expulsion and displacement by Zionist militias and the Israeli army, after decades of Israel’s continuing confiscation of Palestinian property, and after decades of the international community’s failure to resolve the situation, compel Israel to abide by international law, or even restrain it from further violations against the Palestinians) that the Palestinian refugees in the camps outside Palestine started armed struggle.

There have been many, many Palestinian leaders (in addition to Barghouti as mentioned in the OP) who have led non-violent protests. Most of them have been arrested or deported by Israel. Here are just a few:

Mubarak Awad (known as the Arab Gandhi, founder of the Palestinan Center for the Study of Nonviolence, and the Nonviolence International organization) - led nobn-violent protests during the First Intifada - deported by Israel

Abdallah Abu Rahma - high school teacher and founder of the Popular Committee against the Wall and Settlements in Bil‘in - arrested by Israel for (among other accusations) distributing Palestinian flags to the demonstrators (which is still considered a “security offense” under Israeli military regulations) and collecting empty sound and gas grenades and spent M16 bullets used by Israeli soldiers against non-violent protestors, and displaying them in the village’s museum.

Jamal Juma’ - human rights activist, coordinator of the Stop the Wall Campaign - arrested and jailed by Israel

Mohammed Othman - human rights activist, youth coordinator with the “Stop the Wall Campaign,” and leader of non-violent demonstrations against the settlement of Zufim and Israel’s Wall, which have devastated his village of Jayyous - arrested by Israel and detained without charge for 4 months

The First Intifada (1987-1993) consisted of mostly non-violent protests - peaceful demonstrations, refusal to pay taxes to Israel, and boycotts of Israeli products and services. For example:

1986 - the East Jerusalem Arabic Daily called for a Palestinian boycott of Israeli-made cigarettes, which expanded to include the boycott of Israeli soap, food, water, clothes, and other items.

1988 Tax Revolt in Beit Sahour - under the slogan “No Taxation without Representation” - brutally crushed by Israel. Residents were beaten and detained without trial, and homes in the village were raided and the residents’ possessions confiscated - the items, including children’s toys, were auctioned off in Israel. Israel’s Defense Minister at the time was Yitzhak Rabin, who said he would break the tax revolt at any cost, even if it meant keeping the village under curfew for months.

There have been thousands of non-violent protests over the past 6 years against the construction of Israel’s Wall on Palestinian land.

All of these non-violent protests have been virtually ignored in the American press.

Meanwhile, the Israeli government’s policy has been to suppress non-violent protests with brutal, overwhelming force - using live ammunition, rubber-coated steel bullets, and tear gas to disperse crowds, even showering them with sewage water and chemicals. Protesters have been beaten and arrested. Israel also uses tactics like destruction of property, harrassment, intimidation and collective punishment of villages to suppress protests.

Here is an example of what usually happens - remember that these are Palestinian protesters on their own land, demonstrating against Israel’s Annexation Wall which is slicing right through their village’s land:

[youtube]WkiVNlsEjis&feature[/youtube]

Many Palestinians taking part in non-violent protests have been murdered by Israeli soldiers - for instance Bassem Abu Rahma who was shot to death during a peaceful protest in Bil’in. Thousands more have been wounded, and thousands arrested.

Bottom line: Most Palestinians - more than 99% of them - are engaging in non-violent resistance against the Israeli occupation every single day of their lives, as they have for more than 40 years:

[youtube]fOHmk75F9bA[/youtube]
[youtube]HfaDokjtOyg[/youtube]
[youtube]RrhGWuPKvLI[/youtube]
 
Palestinian non-violent resistance is not a new phenomenon - it goes back to the early 20th century. For example:

1902 - residents of the Palestinian villages of al-Shajara, Misha and Melhamiyya held a collective non-violent protest against the takeover of 70,000 dunums of village agricultural land by Zionist settlers

1936 - Palestinians staged a 6-month non-violent strike against the British Mandate, protesting the British government’s refusal to grant Palestinians self-determination

In fact, it was not until the 1970s (after decades of expulsion and displacement by Zionist militias and the Israeli army, after decades of Israel’s continuing confiscation of Palestinian property, and after decades of the international community’s failure to resolve the situation, compel Israel to abide by international law, or even restrain it from further violations against the Palestinians) that the Palestinian refugees in the camps outside Palestine started armed struggle.

There have been many, many Palestinian leaders (in addition to Barghouti as mentioned in the OP) who have led non-violent protests. Most of them have been arrested or deported by Israel. Here are just a few:

Mubarak Awad (known as the Arab Gandhi, founder of the Palestinan Center for the Study of Nonviolence, and the Nonviolence International organization) - led nobn-violent protests during the First Intifada - deported by Israel

Abdallah Abu Rahma - high school teacher and founder of the Popular Committee against the Wall and Settlements in Bil‘in - arrested by Israel for (among other accusations) distributing Palestinian flags to the demonstrators (which is still considered a “security offense” under Israeli military regulations) and collecting empty sound and gas grenades and spent M16 bullets used by Israeli soldiers against non-violent protestors, and displaying them in the village’s museum.

Jamal Juma’ - human rights activist, coordinator of the Stop the Wall Campaign - arrested and jailed by Israel

Mohammed Othman - human rights activist, youth coordinator with the “Stop the Wall Campaign,” and leader of non-violent demonstrations against the settlement of Zufim and Israel’s Wall, which have devastated his village of Jayyous - arrested by Israel and detained without charge for 4 months

The First Intifada (1987-1993) consisted of mostly non-violent protests - peaceful demonstrations, refusal to pay taxes to Israel, and boycotts of Israeli products and services. For example:

1986 - the East Jerusalem Arabic Daily called for a Palestinian boycott of Israeli-made cigarettes, which expanded to include the boycott of Israeli soap, food, water, clothes, and other items.

1988 Tax Revolt in Beit Sahour - under the slogan “No Taxation without Representation” - brutally crushed by Israel. Residents were beaten and detained without trial, and homes in the village were raided and the residents’ possessions confiscated - the items, including children’s toys, were auctioned off in Israel. Israel’s Defense Minister at the time was Yitzhak Rabin, who said he would break the tax revolt at any cost, even if it meant keeping the village under curfew for months.

There have been thousands of non-violent protests over the past 6 years against the construction of Israel’s Wall on Palestinian land.

All of these non-violent protests have been virtually ignored in the American press.

Meanwhile, the Israeli government’s policy has been to suppress non-violent protests with brutal, overwhelming force - using live ammunition, rubber-coated steel bullets, and tear gas to disperse crowds, even showering them with sewage water and chemicals. Protesters have been beaten and arrested. Israel also uses tactics like destruction of property, harrassment, intimidation and collective punishment of villages to suppress protests.

Here is an example of what usually happens - remember that these are Palestinian protesters on their own land, demonstrating against Israel’s Annexation Wall which is slicing right through their village’s land:

[youtube]WkiVNlsEjis&feature[/youtube]

Many Palestinians taking part in non-violent protests have been murdered by Israeli soldiers - for instance Bassem Abu Rahma who was shot to death during a peaceful protest in Bil’in. Thousands more have been wounded, and thousands arrested.

Bottom line: Most Palestinians - more than 99% of them - are engaging in non-violent resistance against the Israeli occupation every single day of their lives, as they have for more than 40 years:

[youtube]fOHmk75F9bA[/youtube]
[youtube]HfaDokjtOyg[/youtube]
[youtube]RrhGWuPKvLI[/youtube]

And any Palestinian who fights back is a terrorist.:lol::lol::lol:
 
I was going to see this guy give a talk, but then the Canadian government decided out of the blue that they were not going to give him a visa (despite the fact that he had already gotten one many times before), and then later decided they would give it to him too late for any of the speaking engagements. It was terrible.

Anyway, yeah, both Moustafa and Marwan Barghouti are the brightest hopes to lead a real peace movement in Palestine. Hamas must to come to understand that all it does is give Israel excuses to keep pummeling the people of Palestine. What is really needed is peaceful, yet total, resistance. They need a Gandhi, a Mandela, an MLK, just anybody who says "We're not going to fight, we'll sit here and starve and march and sing songs until either every single one of us is dead or our oppressors leave us the fuck alone." It would be the final coup de grace against the Occupation.
 
I was going to see this guy give a talk, but then the Canadian government decided out of the blue that they were not going to give him a visa (despite the fact that he had already gotten one many times before), and then later decided they would give it to him too late for any of the speaking engagements. It was terrible.

Anyway, yeah, both Moustafa and Marwan Barghouti are the brightest hopes to lead a real peace movement in Palestine. Hamas must to come to understand that all it does is give Israel excuses to keep pummeling the people of Palestine. What is really needed is peaceful, yet total, resistance. They need a Gandhi, a Mandela, an MLK, just anybody who says "We're not going to fight, we'll sit here and starve and march and sing songs until either every single one of us is dead or our oppressors leave us the fuck alone." It would be the final coup de grace against the Occupation.

Marwan Barghouti is said to be the only member of Fatah who could beat Hamas in the elections.

Yet the exchange agreement proposed for Shalit by Hamas has Marwan Barghouti at the top of the list to be released.

????
 
Palestinian non-violent resistance is not a new phenomenon - it goes back to the early 20th century. For example:

1902 - residents of the Palestinian villages of al-Shajara, Misha and Melhamiyya held a collective non-violent protest against the takeover of 70,000 dunums of village agricultural land by Zionist settlers

1936 - Palestinians staged a 6-month non-violent strike against the British Mandate, protesting the British government’s refusal to grant Palestinians self-determination

In fact, it was not until the 1970s (after decades of expulsion and displacement by Zionist militias and the Israeli army, after decades of Israel’s continuing confiscation of Palestinian property, and after decades of the international community’s failure to resolve the situation, compel Israel to abide by international law, or even restrain it from further violations against the Palestinians) that the Palestinian refugees in the camps outside Palestine started armed struggle.

There have been many, many Palestinian leaders (in addition to Barghouti as mentioned in the OP) who have led non-violent protests. Most of them have been arrested or deported by Israel. Here are just a few:

Mubarak Awad (known as the Arab Gandhi, founder of the Palestinan Center for the Study of Nonviolence, and the Nonviolence International organization) - led nobn-violent protests during the First Intifada - deported by Israel

Abdallah Abu Rahma - high school teacher and founder of the Popular Committee against the Wall and Settlements in Bil‘in - arrested by Israel for (among other accusations) distributing Palestinian flags to the demonstrators (which is still considered a “security offense” under Israeli military regulations) and collecting empty sound and gas grenades and spent M16 bullets used by Israeli soldiers against non-violent protestors, and displaying them in the village’s museum.

Jamal Juma’ - human rights activist, coordinator of the Stop the Wall Campaign - arrested and jailed by Israel

Mohammed Othman - human rights activist, youth coordinator with the “Stop the Wall Campaign,” and leader of non-violent demonstrations against the settlement of Zufim and Israel’s Wall, which have devastated his village of Jayyous - arrested by Israel and detained without charge for 4 months

The First Intifada (1987-1993) consisted of mostly non-violent protests - peaceful demonstrations, refusal to pay taxes to Israel, and boycotts of Israeli products and services. For example:

1986 - the East Jerusalem Arabic Daily called for a Palestinian boycott of Israeli-made cigarettes, which expanded to include the boycott of Israeli soap, food, water, clothes, and other items.

1988 Tax Revolt in Beit Sahour - under the slogan “No Taxation without Representation” - brutally crushed by Israel. Residents were beaten and detained without trial, and homes in the village were raided and the residents’ possessions confiscated - the items, including children’s toys, were auctioned off in Israel. Israel’s Defense Minister at the time was Yitzhak Rabin, who said he would break the tax revolt at any cost, even if it meant keeping the village under curfew for months.

There have been thousands of non-violent protests over the past 6 years against the construction of Israel’s Wall on Palestinian land.

All of these non-violent protests have been virtually ignored in the American press.

Meanwhile, the Israeli government’s policy has been to suppress non-violent protests with brutal, overwhelming force - using live ammunition, rubber-coated steel bullets, and tear gas to disperse crowds, even showering them with sewage water and chemicals. Protesters have been beaten and arrested. Israel also uses tactics like destruction of property, harrassment, intimidation and collective punishment of villages to suppress protests.

Here is an example of what usually happens - remember that these are Palestinian protesters on their own land, demonstrating against Israel’s Annexation Wall which is slicing right through their village’s land:

[youtube]WkiVNlsEjis&feature[/youtube]

Many Palestinians taking part in non-violent protests have been murdered by Israeli soldiers - for instance Bassem Abu Rahma who was shot to death during a peaceful protest in Bil’in. Thousands more have been wounded, and thousands arrested.

Bottom line: Most Palestinians - more than 99% of them - are engaging in non-violent resistance against the Israeli occupation every single day of their lives, as they have for more than 40 years:

[youtube]fOHmk75F9bA[/youtube]
[youtube]HfaDokjtOyg[/youtube]
[youtube]RrhGWuPKvLI[/youtube]

And any Palestinian who fights back is a terrorist.:lol::lol::lol:
Exactly, if that last sentence was the only thing your post contained I might have thought you had stopped being naive. :eusa_eh:
 
Palestinian non-violent resistance is not a new phenomenon - it goes back to the early 20th century. For example:

1902 - residents of the Palestinian villages of al-Shajara, Misha and Melhamiyya held a collective non-violent protest against the takeover of 70,000 dunums of village agricultural land by Zionist settlers

1936 - Palestinians staged a 6-month non-violent strike against the British Mandate, protesting the British government’s refusal to grant Palestinians self-determination

In fact, it was not until the 1970s (after decades of expulsion and displacement by Zionist militias and the Israeli army, after decades of Israel’s continuing confiscation of Palestinian property, and after decades of the international community’s failure to resolve the situation, compel Israel to abide by international law, or even restrain it from further violations against the Palestinians) that the Palestinian refugees in the camps outside Palestine started armed struggle.

There have been many, many Palestinian leaders (in addition to Barghouti as mentioned in the OP) who have led non-violent protests. Most of them have been arrested or deported by Israel. Here are just a few:

Mubarak Awad (known as the Arab Gandhi, founder of the Palestinan Center for the Study of Nonviolence, and the Nonviolence International organization) - led nobn-violent protests during the First Intifada - deported by Israel

Abdallah Abu Rahma - high school teacher and founder of the Popular Committee against the Wall and Settlements in Bil‘in - arrested by Israel for (among other accusations) distributing Palestinian flags to the demonstrators (which is still considered a “security offense” under Israeli military regulations) and collecting empty sound and gas grenades and spent M16 bullets used by Israeli soldiers against non-violent protestors, and displaying them in the village’s museum.

Jamal Juma’ - human rights activist, coordinator of the Stop the Wall Campaign - arrested and jailed by Israel

Mohammed Othman - human rights activist, youth coordinator with the “Stop the Wall Campaign,” and leader of non-violent demonstrations against the settlement of Zufim and Israel’s Wall, which have devastated his village of Jayyous - arrested by Israel and detained without charge for 4 months

The First Intifada (1987-1993) consisted of mostly non-violent protests - peaceful demonstrations, refusal to pay taxes to Israel, and boycotts of Israeli products and services. For example:

1986 - the East Jerusalem Arabic Daily called for a Palestinian boycott of Israeli-made cigarettes, which expanded to include the boycott of Israeli soap, food, water, clothes, and other items.

1988 Tax Revolt in Beit Sahour - under the slogan “No Taxation without Representation” - brutally crushed by Israel. Residents were beaten and detained without trial, and homes in the village were raided and the residents’ possessions confiscated - the items, including children’s toys, were auctioned off in Israel. Israel’s Defense Minister at the time was Yitzhak Rabin, who said he would break the tax revolt at any cost, even if it meant keeping the village under curfew for months.

There have been thousands of non-violent protests over the past 6 years against the construction of Israel’s Wall on Palestinian land.

All of these non-violent protests have been virtually ignored in the American press.

Meanwhile, the Israeli government’s policy has been to suppress non-violent protests with brutal, overwhelming force - using live ammunition, rubber-coated steel bullets, and tear gas to disperse crowds, even showering them with sewage water and chemicals. Protesters have been beaten and arrested. Israel also uses tactics like destruction of property, harrassment, intimidation and collective punishment of villages to suppress protests.

Here is an example of what usually happens - remember that these are Palestinian protesters on their own land, demonstrating against Israel’s Annexation Wall which is slicing right through their village’s land:

[youtube]WkiVNlsEjis&feature[/youtube]

Many Palestinians taking part in non-violent protests have been murdered by Israeli soldiers - for instance Bassem Abu Rahma who was shot to death during a peaceful protest in Bil’in. Thousands more have been wounded, and thousands arrested.

Bottom line: Most Palestinians - more than 99% of them - are engaging in non-violent resistance against the Israeli occupation every single day of their lives, as they have for more than 40 years:

[youtube]fOHmk75F9bA[/youtube]
[youtube]HfaDokjtOyg[/youtube]
[youtube]RrhGWuPKvLI[/youtube]

And any Palestinian who fights back is a terrorist.:lol::lol::lol:
Exactly, if that last sentence was the only thing your post contained I might have thought you had stopped being naive. :eusa_eh:

Please clarify.
 
I was going to see this guy give a talk, but then the Canadian government decided out of the blue that they were not going to give him a visa (despite the fact that he had already gotten one many times before), and then later decided they would give it to him too late for any of the speaking engagements. It was terrible.

Anyway, yeah, both Moustafa and Marwan Barghouti are the brightest hopes to lead a real peace movement in Palestine. Hamas must to come to understand that all it does is give Israel excuses to keep pummeling the people of Palestine. What is really needed is peaceful, yet total, resistance. They need a Gandhi, a Mandela, an MLK, just anybody who says "We're not going to fight, we'll sit here and starve and march and sing songs until either every single one of us is dead or our oppressors leave us the fuck alone." It would be the final coup de grace against the Occupation.

Marwan Barghouti is said to be the only member of Fatah who could beat Hamas in the elections.

Yet the exchange agreement proposed for Shalit by Hamas has Marwan Barghouti at the top of the list to be released.

????

Yeah, the thing with Marwan is that he's one of the only people with legitimacy among both groups, so it's not exactly that he could 'beat' Hamas (though he probably could), but that he's one of the very few (if not only) who could form a National Unity government with both Fateh and Hamas. This is unlike Abbas, whom Hamas has absolutely no respect for. On the other hand, the fact that Hamas would most likely support and follow Barghouti would make it easier for Israel to negotiate, and he's someone whom Israel could more or less trust at the negotiating table (unlike Hamas, whom Israel hates, and unlike Fateh, which is at the moment severely illegitimate).
 
Liar! You disingenious sand N#gger!!!

1920 - Old City Jerusalem Riots - dozens of Jews killed
1921 - Jaffa Riots - 47 dead Jews, 100s injured
1929 - Western Wall Uprising/Hebron Massacre/Safed Massacre - 68 dead in Hebron, 18 dead in Safed, 20+ dead in the rest of the territories
1936-1939 - Palestinian Revolt - Several Hundred Dead Jews
1947 - 1948 - Civil War
1948-1949 - Israeli-Arab Conflict: Antisemites will claim the Palestinians were innocent bystanders, but the vast majority of them fought along side the Arabs.
1948-1967 - Terrorist campaign from Gaza and the West Bank: Many of these terrorist were Palestinian Arabs.
1987-1993 - First Intifada: 164 dead Jews
2000-2005 - Second Intifada: 1,062 Dead Jews
2009 Gaza War: After 1000s of daily missile and mortar attacks of a year period, the Jews finally fought back and justifiably blooded the Palestinians' noses!

The Palestinians elected Hamas. Hamas has a stated goal of never giving into Israel. Never recognizing Israel. And are fully committed to killing every Jew and destroying Israel!

Yea they are regular old school Quakers!


Palestinian non-violent resistance is not a new phenomenon - it goes back to the early 20th century. For example:

1902 - residents of the Palestinian villages of al-Shajara, Misha and Melhamiyya held a collective non-violent protest against the takeover of 70,000 dunums of village agricultural land by Zionist settlers

1936 - Palestinians staged a 6-month non-violent strike against the British Mandate, protesting the British government’s refusal to grant Palestinians self-determination

In fact, it was not until the 1970s (after decades of expulsion and displacement by Zionist militias and the Israeli army, after decades of Israel’s continuing confiscation of Palestinian property, and after decades of the international community’s failure to resolve the situation, compel Israel to abide by international law, or even restrain it from further violations against the Palestinians) that the Palestinian refugees in the camps outside Palestine started armed struggle.

There have been many, many Palestinian leaders (in addition to Barghouti as mentioned in the OP) who have led non-violent protests. Most of them have been arrested or deported by Israel. Here are just a few:

Mubarak Awad (known as the Arab Gandhi, founder of the Palestinan Center for the Study of Nonviolence, and the Nonviolence International organization) - led nobn-violent protests during the First Intifada - deported by Israel

Abdallah Abu Rahma - high school teacher and founder of the Popular Committee against the Wall and Settlements in Bil‘in - arrested by Israel for (among other accusations) distributing Palestinian flags to the demonstrators (which is still considered a “security offense” under Israeli military regulations) and collecting empty sound and gas grenades and spent M16 bullets used by Israeli soldiers against non-violent protestors, and displaying them in the village’s museum.

Jamal Juma’ - human rights activist, coordinator of the Stop the Wall Campaign - arrested and jailed by Israel

Mohammed Othman - human rights activist, youth coordinator with the “Stop the Wall Campaign,” and leader of non-violent demonstrations against the settlement of Zufim and Israel’s Wall, which have devastated his village of Jayyous - arrested by Israel and detained without charge for 4 months

The First Intifada (1987-1993) consisted of mostly non-violent protests - peaceful demonstrations, refusal to pay taxes to Israel, and boycotts of Israeli products and services. For example:

1986 - the East Jerusalem Arabic Daily called for a Palestinian boycott of Israeli-made cigarettes, which expanded to include the boycott of Israeli soap, food, water, clothes, and other items.

1988 Tax Revolt in Beit Sahour - under the slogan “No Taxation without Representation” - brutally crushed by Israel. Residents were beaten and detained without trial, and homes in the village were raided and the residents’ possessions confiscated - the items, including children’s toys, were auctioned off in Israel. Israel’s Defense Minister at the time was Yitzhak Rabin, who said he would break the tax revolt at any cost, even if it meant keeping the village under curfew for months.

There have been thousands of non-violent protests over the past 6 years against the construction of Israel’s Wall on Palestinian land.

All of these non-violent protests have been virtually ignored in the American press.

Meanwhile, the Israeli government’s policy has been to suppress non-violent protests with brutal, overwhelming force - using live ammunition, rubber-coated steel bullets, and tear gas to disperse crowds, even showering them with sewage water and chemicals. Protesters have been beaten and arrested. Israel also uses tactics like destruction of property, harrassment, intimidation and collective punishment of villages to suppress protests.

Here is an example of what usually happens - remember that these are Palestinian protesters on their own land, demonstrating against Israel’s Annexation Wall which is slicing right through their village’s land:

[youtube]WkiVNlsEjis&feature[/youtube]

Many Palestinians taking part in non-violent protests have been murdered by Israeli soldiers - for instance Bassem Abu Rahma who was shot to death during a peaceful protest in Bil’in. Thousands more have been wounded, and thousands arrested.

Bottom line: Most Palestinians - more than 99% of them - are engaging in non-violent resistance against the Israeli occupation every single day of their lives, as they have for more than 40 years:

[youtube]fOHmk75F9bA[/youtube]
[youtube]HfaDokjtOyg[/youtube]
[youtube]RrhGWuPKvLI[/youtube]
 
I was going to see this guy give a talk, but then the Canadian government decided out of the blue that they were not going to give him a visa (despite the fact that he had already gotten one many times before), and then later decided they would give it to him too late for any of the speaking engagements. It was terrible.

Anyway, yeah, both Moustafa and Marwan Barghouti are the brightest hopes to lead a real peace movement in Palestine. Hamas must to come to understand that all it does is give Israel excuses to keep pummeling the people of Palestine. What is really needed is peaceful, yet total, resistance. They need a Gandhi, a Mandela, an MLK, just anybody who says "We're not going to fight, we'll sit here and starve and march and sing songs until either every single one of us is dead or our oppressors leave us the fuck alone." It would be the final coup de grace against the Occupation.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPiVcaRGgSQ]YouTube - Marwan Barghouti - Israel/Palestine[/ame]
 
Liar! You disingenious sand N#gger!!!

1920 - Old City Jerusalem Riots - dozens of Jews killed

The Palestinians defend themselves from the Zionists stated goal of taking over Palestine.

1921 - Jaffa Riots - 47 dead Jews, 100s injured

The Palestinians defend themselves from the Zionists stated goal of taking over Palestine.

1929 - Western Wall Uprising/Hebron Massacre/Safed Massacre - 68 dead in Hebron, 18 dead in Safed, 20+ dead in the rest of the territories

The Palestinians defend themselves from the Zionists stated goal of taking over Palestine.

1936-1939 - Palestinian Revolt - Several Hundred Dead Jews

The Palestinians defend themselves from the Zionists stated goal of taking over Palestine.

1947 - 1948 - Civil War

The Palestinians clashing with foreigners who came to take over Palestine. How can you call that a civil war?

1948-1949 - Israeli-Arab Conflict: Antisemites will claim the Palestinians were innocent bystanders, but the vast majority of them fought along side the Arabs.

The Palestinians fighting against the takeover of Palestine.

1948-1967 - Terrorist campaign from Gaza and the West Bank: Many of these terrorist were Palestinian Arabs.

Palestinians fighting against the occupation of Palestine.

1987-1993 - First Intifada: 164 dead Jews

Palestinians fighting against the occupation of Palestine.

2000-2005 - Second Intifada: 1,062 Dead Jews

Palestinians fighting against the occupation of Palestine.

2009 Gaza War: After 1000s of daily missile and mortar attacks of a year period, the Jews finally fought back and justifiably blooded the Palestinians' noses!

Palestinians fighting against the occupation of Palestine. Israel defends its occupation of Palestine.

The Palestinians elected Hamas. Hamas has a stated goal of never giving into Israel. Never recognizing Israel. And are fully committed to killing every Jew and destroying Israel!

Hamas has consistently stated that it would never recognize israel's so called right to occupy Palestine. However, the killing of Jews is just Israeli propaganda.

Yea they are regular old school Quakers!

I don't see where Quakers are relevant to this conflict.
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You are invited to quote me where I have "lied."

You disingenious sand N#gger!!!
Using words that you can't/don't dare to even spell is lame.

The Palestinians elected Hamas. Hamas has a stated goal of never giving into Israel. Never recognizing Israel. And are fully committed to killing every Jew and destroying Israel!

Hamas has offered to recognize Israel within the 1967 borders.

Hamas has never said anything about killing every Jew.

BTW what party did Israelis elect to power in Israel? What does its charter say about a Palestinian state?

Liar! You disingenious sand N#gger!!!

Yeah, well, there you have it. No use talking to this scumbag.

Oh you didn't know? "Some people" are "entitled" to be bigots. Abraham Foxman says so:

“Survivors of the Holocaust are entitled to feelings that are irrational,” he said. Referring to the loved ones of Sept. 11 victims, he said, “Their anguish entitles them to positions that others would categorize as irrational or bigoted.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/31/nyregion/31mosque.html?_r=2&pagewanted=2&hp

Hmmmm....I wonder if survivors of the Nakba are "entitled" to be anti-Semitic? Oh wait....
 

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