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yes.
it's a pity the NRA has become a home for nutbar vigilantes.
yes.
it's a pity the NRA has become a home for nutbar vigilantes.
Who gives a fuck ?
when they thought that Black Panthers were going to get guns.
too funny...
this included both the NRA and Ronald Reagan.
Now, i don't have a problem with that...
but i suspect they'd take the same position today.
yes.
it's a pity the NRA has become a home for nutbar vigilantes.
Who gives a fuck ?
normal people who think they shouldn't be taken seriously?
The right has always supported keeping guns out of the hands of criminals and crazies.
link?
take careful note of the racist California legislature aimed at keeping the black people disarmed and powerless Black people have begged, prayed, petitioned, demonstrated, and everything else to get the racist power structure of America to right the wrongs which have historically been perpetuated against black people The time has come for black people to arm themselves against this terror before it is too late.
I know! The FBI tried to infiltrate the Black Panther Party in the 60's to discredit them. Isn't that crazy?when they thought that Black Panthers were going to get guns.
too funny...
this included both the NRA and Ronald Reagan.
Now, i don't have a problem with that...
but i suspect they'd take the same position today.
yes.
it's a pity the NRA has become a home for nutbar vigilantes.
Who gives a fuck ?
normal people who think they shouldn't be taken seriously?
That leaves you out.link?
If you demand a link, you are obligated to read it...
The Secret History of Guns
The Ku Klux Klan, Ronald Reagan, and, for most of its history, the NRA all worked to control guns. The Founding Fathers? They required gun ownershipand regulated it. And no group has more fiercely advocated the right to bear loaded weapons in public than the Black Panthersthe true pioneers of the modern pro-gun movement. In the battle over gun rights in America, both sides have distorted history and the law, and theres no resolution in sight.
The eighth-grade students gathering on the west lawn of the state capitol in Sacramento were planning to lunch on fried chicken with Californias new governor, Ronald Reagan, and then tour the granite building constructed a century earlier to resemble the nations Capitol. But the festivities were interrupted by the arrival of 30 young black men and women carrying .357 Magnums, 12-gauge shotguns, and .45-caliber pistols.
The 24 men and six women climbed the capitol steps, and one man, Bobby Seale, began to read from a prepared statement. The American people in general and the black people in particular, he announced, must
take careful note of the racist California legislature aimed at keeping the black people disarmed and powerless Black people have begged, prayed, petitioned, demonstrated, and everything else to get the racist power structure of America to right the wrongs which have historically been perpetuated against black people The time has come for black people to arm themselves against this terror before it is too late.
Seale then turned to the others. All right, brothers, come on. Were going inside. He opened the door, and the radicals walked straight into the states most important government building, loaded guns in hand. No metal detectors stood in their way.
It was May 2, 1967, and the Black Panthers invasion of the California statehouse launched the modern gun-rights movement.
The Founding Fathers instituted gun laws so intrusive that, were they running for office today, the NRA would not endorse them. While they did not care to completely disarm the citizenry, the founding generation denied gun ownership to many people: not only slaves and free blacks, but law-abiding white men who refused to swear loyalty to the Revolution.
For those men who were allowed to own guns, the Founders had their own version of the individual mandate that has proved so controversial in President Obamas health-care-reform law: they required the purchase of guns. A 1792 federal law mandated every eligible man to purchase a military-style gun and ammunition for his service in the citizen militia. Such men had to report for frequent musterswhere their guns would be inspected and, yes, registered on public rolls.
Opposition to gun control was what drove the black militants to visit the California capitol with loaded weapons in hand.
The Panthers, however, took it to an extreme, carrying their guns in public, displaying them for everyoneespecially the policeto see.
Don Mulford, a conservative Republican state assemblyman from Alameda County, which includes Oakland, was determined to end the Panthers police patrols. To disarm the Panthers, he proposed a law that would prohibit the carrying of a loaded weapon in any California city.
The Panthers methods provoked an immediate backlash. The day of their statehouse protest, lawmakers said the incident would speed enactment of Mulfords gun-control proposal. Mulford himself pledged to make his bill even tougher, and he added a provision barring anyone but law enforcement from bringing a loaded firearm into the state capitol.
Republicans in California eagerly supported increased gun control. Governor Reagan told reporters that afternoon that he saw no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons. He called guns a ridiculous way to solve problems that have to be solved among people of good will. In a later press conference, Reagan said he didnt know of any sportsman who leaves his home with a gun to go out into the field to hunt or for target shooting who carries that gun loaded. The Mulford Act, he said, would work no hardship on the honest citizen.
The fear inspired by black people with guns also led the United States Congress to consider new gun restrictions, after the summer of 1967 brought what the historian Harvard Sitkoff called the most intense and destructive wave of racial violence the nation had ever witnessed. Devastating riots engulfed Detroit and Newark. Police and National Guardsmen who tried to help restore order were greeted with sniper fire.
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Who gives a fuck ?
normal people who think they shouldn't be taken seriously?
See me when some laws are broken. Otherwise it is hand wringing to try and meet a politcal end.
People can join and support whatever they want.
link?
If you demand a link, you are obligated to read it...
The Secret History of Guns
The Ku Klux Klan, Ronald Reagan, and, for most of its history, the NRA all worked to control guns. The Founding Fathers? They required gun ownershipand regulated it. And no group has more fiercely advocated the right to bear loaded weapons in public than the Black Panthersthe true pioneers of the modern pro-gun movement. In the battle over gun rights in America, both sides have distorted history and the law, and theres no resolution in sight.
The eighth-grade students gathering on the west lawn of the state capitol in Sacramento were planning to lunch on fried chicken with Californias new governor, Ronald Reagan, and then tour the granite building constructed a century earlier to resemble the nations Capitol. But the festivities were interrupted by the arrival of 30 young black men and women carrying .357 Magnums, 12-gauge shotguns, and .45-caliber pistols.
The 24 men and six women climbed the capitol steps, and one man, Bobby Seale, began to read from a prepared statement. The American people in general and the black people in particular, he announced, must
take careful note of the racist California legislature aimed at keeping the black people disarmed and powerless Black people have begged, prayed, petitioned, demonstrated, and everything else to get the racist power structure of America to right the wrongs which have historically been perpetuated against black people The time has come for black people to arm themselves against this terror before it is too late.
Seale then turned to the others. All right, brothers, come on. Were going inside. He opened the door, and the radicals walked straight into the states most important government building, loaded guns in hand. No metal detectors stood in their way.
It was May 2, 1967, and the Black Panthers invasion of the California statehouse launched the modern gun-rights movement.
The Founding Fathers instituted gun laws so intrusive that, were they running for office today, the NRA would not endorse them. While they did not care to completely disarm the citizenry, the founding generation denied gun ownership to many people: not only slaves and free blacks, but law-abiding white men who refused to swear loyalty to the Revolution.
For those men who were allowed to own guns, the Founders had their own version of the individual mandate that has proved so controversial in President Obamas health-care-reform law: they required the purchase of guns. A 1792 federal law mandated every eligible man to purchase a military-style gun and ammunition for his service in the citizen militia. Such men had to report for frequent musterswhere their guns would be inspected and, yes, registered on public rolls.
Opposition to gun control was what drove the black militants to visit the California capitol with loaded weapons in hand.
The Panthers, however, took it to an extreme, carrying their guns in public, displaying them for everyoneespecially the policeto see.
Don Mulford, a conservative Republican state assemblyman from Alameda County, which includes Oakland, was determined to end the Panthers police patrols. To disarm the Panthers, he proposed a law that would prohibit the carrying of a loaded weapon in any California city.
The Panthers methods provoked an immediate backlash. The day of their statehouse protest, lawmakers said the incident would speed enactment of Mulfords gun-control proposal. Mulford himself pledged to make his bill even tougher, and he added a provision barring anyone but law enforcement from bringing a loaded firearm into the state capitol.
Republicans in California eagerly supported increased gun control. Governor Reagan told reporters that afternoon that he saw no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons. He called guns a ridiculous way to solve problems that have to be solved among people of good will. In a later press conference, Reagan said he didnt know of any sportsman who leaves his home with a gun to go out into the field to hunt or for target shooting who carries that gun loaded. The Mulford Act, he said, would work no hardship on the honest citizen.
The fear inspired by black people with guns also led the United States Congress to consider new gun restrictions, after the summer of 1967 brought what the historian Harvard Sitkoff called the most intense and destructive wave of racial violence the nation had ever witnessed. Devastating riots engulfed Detroit and Newark. Police and National Guardsmen who tried to help restore order were greeted with sniper fire.
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The right has always supported keeping guns out of the hands of criminals and crazies.
The criminal part may be good, depending on how you define "criminal". The "crazy" part....
What would we do psychological testing?
link?
If you demand a link, you are obligated to read it...
The Secret History of Guns
The Ku Klux Klan, Ronald Reagan, and, for most of its history, the NRA all worked to control guns. The Founding Fathers? They required gun ownershipand regulated it. And no group has more fiercely advocated the right to bear loaded weapons in public than the Black Panthersthe true pioneers of the modern pro-gun movement. In the battle over gun rights in America, both sides have distorted history and the law, and theres no resolution in sight.
The eighth-grade students gathering on the west lawn of the state capitol in Sacramento were planning to lunch on fried chicken with Californias new governor, Ronald Reagan, and then tour the granite building constructed a century earlier to resemble the nations Capitol. But the festivities were interrupted by the arrival of 30 young black men and women carrying .357 Magnums, 12-gauge shotguns, and .45-caliber pistols.
The 24 men and six women climbed the capitol steps, and one man, Bobby Seale, began to read from a prepared statement. The American people in general and the black people in particular, he announced, must
take careful note of the racist California legislature aimed at keeping the black people disarmed and powerless Black people have begged, prayed, petitioned, demonstrated, and everything else to get the racist power structure of America to right the wrongs which have historically been perpetuated against black people The time has come for black people to arm themselves against this terror before it is too late.
Seale then turned to the others. All right, brothers, come on. Were going inside. He opened the door, and the radicals walked straight into the states most important government building, loaded guns in hand. No metal detectors stood in their way.
It was May 2, 1967, and the Black Panthers invasion of the California statehouse launched the modern gun-rights movement.
The Founding Fathers instituted gun laws so intrusive that, were they running for office today, the NRA would not endorse them. While they did not care to completely disarm the citizenry, the founding generation denied gun ownership to many people: not only slaves and free blacks, but law-abiding white men who refused to swear loyalty to the Revolution.
For those men who were allowed to own guns, the Founders had their own version of the individual mandate that has proved so controversial in President Obamas health-care-reform law: they required the purchase of guns. A 1792 federal law mandated every eligible man to purchase a military-style gun and ammunition for his service in the citizen militia. Such men had to report for frequent musterswhere their guns would be inspected and, yes, registered on public rolls.
Opposition to gun control was what drove the black militants to visit the California capitol with loaded weapons in hand.
The Panthers, however, took it to an extreme, carrying their guns in public, displaying them for everyoneespecially the policeto see.
Don Mulford, a conservative Republican state assemblyman from Alameda County, which includes Oakland, was determined to end the Panthers police patrols. To disarm the Panthers, he proposed a law that would prohibit the carrying of a loaded weapon in any California city.
The Panthers methods provoked an immediate backlash. The day of their statehouse protest, lawmakers said the incident would speed enactment of Mulfords gun-control proposal. Mulford himself pledged to make his bill even tougher, and he added a provision barring anyone but law enforcement from bringing a loaded firearm into the state capitol.
Republicans in California eagerly supported increased gun control. Governor Reagan told reporters that afternoon that he saw no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons. He called guns a ridiculous way to solve problems that have to be solved among people of good will. In a later press conference, Reagan said he didnt know of any sportsman who leaves his home with a gun to go out into the field to hunt or for target shooting who carries that gun loaded. The Mulford Act, he said, would work no hardship on the honest citizen.
The fear inspired by black people with guns also led the United States Congress to consider new gun restrictions, after the summer of 1967 brought what the historian Harvard Sitkoff called the most intense and destructive wave of racial violence the nation had ever witnessed. Devastating riots engulfed Detroit and Newark. Police and National Guardsmen who tried to help restore order were greeted with sniper fire.
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thanks.
i saw the part about reagan....what about the NRA? i'm not surprised reagan would support gun control, he was fairly moderate.
The NRA supported The National Firearms Act of 1934 which taxes and requires registration of such firearms as machine guns, sawed-off rifles and sawed-off shotguns. ... NRA support of Federal gun legislation did not stop with the earlier Dodd bills. It currently backs several Senate and House bills which, through amendment, would put new teeth into the National and Federal Firearms Acts." American Rifleman, March 1968, P. 22
Jillian thinks she makes a point. Poor pathetic fool.
Neither the "right" or the NRA is against all efforts at gun control. No one argues that in most circumstances, convicted criminals shouldn't possess weapons, no one argues that the mentally unstable should have guns, nor should terrorist groups not be scrutinized and have their weapons taken.
The left would disarm all Americans if it could and that is something we must be diligent in our efforts to stop.
