The republicans are brilliant

Discussion in 'ObamaCare' started by airplanemechanic, Dec 21, 2017.

  1. MadChemist
    Offline

    MadChemist VIP Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2017
    Messages:
    534
    Thanks Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Ratings:
    +127
    We are well past our rear ends in stupid mandates.

    You don't buy insurance when you get sick. At that point, it is no longer insurance. It is a subsidy to have others pay for what you knowlingly have.

    The real issue here, as I see it, is that we have a growing class of people who are are less capable in a world where compensation is given to those who can produce. The problem being that those less capable people are required to buy health care in our inflated system.

    They can't do that.
     
  2. MadChemist
    Offline

    MadChemist VIP Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2017
    Messages:
    534
    Thanks Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Ratings:
    +127
    The U.K. operates under a set of societal codes that include health care.

    The U.S. does not. Consequently, health insurance and health care in the U.S. is different.

    The U.K. is not without it's issues, just like Canada.

    The U.S certainly has issues. Issues we don't seem interested in addressing.

    Single payer in the U.S. will never happen. It can't. The insurance industry won't let it.
     
  3. JoeB131
    Offline

    JoeB131 Diamond Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2011
    Messages:
    102,309
    Thanks Received:
    8,637
    Trophy Points:
    2,055
    Location:
    Chicago, Chicago, that Toddling Town
    Ratings:
    +24,222
    I think you are a bit confused. The problem isn't that those who produce are compensated. We have college professors on food stamps and airline pilots selling their blood plasma. If the wealth were evenly distributed, we wouldn't have a poverty.

    The problem is that the lower 40% of the populace has less than 1% of the wealth, while the top 1% have 43% of the wealth. The top 20% have 87% of the wealth. And they want more.

    There's more than enough money spent on Health care. We spend 17% of our GDP on it while other countries spend 8-11%. It's just that most our money goes to activities that add no value to the quality of care.

    Used to be, you spent a couple days in the hospital after giving birth, and when you had a colonoscopy, you checked in a day early so they could get you prepared.

    Now it's all Outpatient and Drive-through procedures.
     
  4. frigidweirdo
    Offline

    frigidweirdo Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2014
    Messages:
    31,879
    Thanks Received:
    3,189
    Trophy Points:
    1,130
    Ratings:
    +13,239
    Lost by a maybe 40,000 votes. If you think it was "BIG TIME" then you're wrong.
     
  5. MadChemist
    Offline

    MadChemist VIP Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2017
    Messages:
    534
    Thanks Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Ratings:
    +127
    They were supposed to wipe him out.

    They were supposed to take the senate.

    They lost the SCOTUS by that alone.

    They made few gains in the house.

    YES THEY LOST BIG TIME
     
  6. frigidweirdo
    Offline

    frigidweirdo Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2014
    Messages:
    31,879
    Thanks Received:
    3,189
    Trophy Points:
    1,130
    Ratings:
    +13,239
    Well, you carry on believing.

    The reality is that in this system, neither side really loses, they might not have the president or the senate, but they're still selling themselves to the highest bidder and making a ton of money out of it. Democracy? No thanks, we're American.
     
  7. MadChemist
    Offline

    MadChemist VIP Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2017
    Messages:
    534
    Thanks Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Ratings:
    +127
    O.K.

    Can you say Niel Gorsuch ?

    He alone, made the victory huge.

    And no...I don't want a democracy. Neither did the founders.
     
  8. bear513
    Offline

    bear513 Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2012
    Messages:
    44,194
    Thanks Received:
    5,740
    Trophy Points:
    1,830
    Ratings:
    +29,218

    No they didn't they said it was a tax , republicans repealed the tax
     
  9. BulletProof
    Offline

    BulletProof Silver Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2017
    Messages:
    2,659
    Thanks Received:
    209
    Trophy Points:
    90
    Ratings:
    +1,418
    You have two clauses, and two ignorant statements. I bet if you had three clauses, you'd have three ignorant statements.

    The federal government fines people for not having health insurance. It doesn't make any difference if the fine is called a tax, it's still a penalty for not buying insurance.

    The Republicans didn't repeal the penalty. They only reduced the fine amount to zero. The difference is that the zero-rate can expire and the penalty return.
     
  10. bear513
    Offline

    bear513 Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2012
    Messages:
    44,194
    Thanks Received:
    5,740
    Trophy Points:
    1,830
    Ratings:
    +29,218

    Liar you don't have a clue, it made all the difference in the world to define the mandate as a tax ...otherwise it would not have been legal


    And 2 yup they repealed the tax..



    Take your revisionist history bullshit to another forum.
     

Share This Page

Search tags for this page

best cameras